Jaz-O on Memphis Bleek podcast this week

[Freshology]

Yes


Jaz-O kinda wanted that big brother little brother relationship to stay that way


For years Jaz was telling Jay how when and why

Jay wasn’t gonna let that happen


In fact it was said since Jaz wasn’t gonna sign to roc-a-fella he thought his ace in the hole was


He was gonna make Jay leave the roc but that wasn’t gonna happen


Pretty much the same situation Dehaven had he wanted the big brother little brother brother dynamic


Dehaven still try’s to call Jay his little brother

Yep, Jay was on the 5 percenter tip back in the day... around the same time Jaz ran down to Atl. Once Rocafella got on and Jay started switching up his style/ image and running with Dame, Jaz wasn't really feeling that. If you let Jaz tell it, it was never about the money for him... and he wasn't with the mafioso vibe that the label was pushing so he distanced himself.

In the midst of all that the student became the teacher. Then Jay blew up with Vol 2. Jay put Jaz on the Timbo track... Jaz felt some type of way because his verse was last... Jaz felt the label only reached out when they came across something that fit his style and never really treated him like fam. Dame offered him a contact some time after that timbo track dropped and he turned it down.... said there wasn't room in the label for both him and Jay

They saw how he was moving and thought maybe there was some jealously at play. All this way before the Let's Go video shoot.

At the end of the day it seems it was a lot of miscommunication mixed with egos on both sides that led what eventually happened

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Hov missing the video shoot for that Kingz Kounty album was just the final straw.

Them nikkas were semi beefing way before that. I'm talking about from Hard Knock Life era. Jaz ain't like being put on the 4th fukking verse for nikka What nikka Who since he had the best part. Radio would sometimes cut Jaz'o 's parts off.. Then from there Jaz ain't like the deal Jay offered him on the Roc. I think it was something like 150k and Jaz felt it was too low.

The video shoot was just the final straw that provoked the diss. If you from the era you know it wasn't only that.

at Jaz referring to Jay z and the Roc fam as Riddler and his goons trying to jump Batman.

man we got some classic disses outta that shyt.

 

[Cladyclad]

Hov missing the video shoot for that Kingz Kounty album was just the final straw.

Them nikkas were semi beefing way before that. I'm talking about from Hard Knock Life era. Jaz ain't like being put on the 4th fukking verse for nikka What nikka Who since he had the best part. Radio would sometimes cut Jaz'o 's parts off.. Then from there Jaz ain't like the deal Jay offered him on the Roc. I think it was something like 150k and Jaz felt it was too low.

The video shoot was just the final straw that provoked the diss. If you from the era you know it wasn't only that.

at Jaz referring to Jay z and the Roc fam as Riddler and his goons trying to jump Batman.

man we got some classic disses outta that shyt.

It was a one sided issue

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

It was a one sided issue

I never gave my opinion just the facts.

 

[Cladyclad]

I never gave my opinion just the facts.

I know. I’m just saying

its never nothing I did

its what i didnt do

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

You can always tell who suck camel dikk by the way they run interference whenever you say something objective about Jay.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

Bleek got the dope fiend mouf.

 

[Red Money]

Why is Jaz wearing a hat while rocking a fro?

Come on, bruh lol

He look like a light skin Ed Reed especially when you factor in the beard.

 

[ajnapoleon]

How is puff involved? Was it because sauce was ghostwriting for him?

2 things

Diddy asked Jay to write the song

Jay gave sauce the opportunity to write the song

Sauce pretty much retired from rapping off those checks for years

I think (not exactly sure) it was a end date to when the royalties stopped per sting

Sauce stopped getting those checks those was the biggest ones


Sauce had a pic of a basket of mail of unopened checks next to his recliner from ghost writing


But those “I will be missing you” checks was massive


Those stop coming in


Sauce wanted Jay to step in


Jay said “you both grown men you both handle that”



Which made sauce super upset at jay


That’s pretty much where Jay said that quote

“People are not upset for what I did to them …. They get upset at me for what I didn’t do for them”



To be honest I kinda get it


Imagine having a card like Jay as a friend but he not really trying to go out his way to help you


I would be upset too



But Jay is like “damn I’m not a genie to grant wishes all the time”


That’s why Memphis bleek will go out his way not to ask Jay for anything


Because it got to be annoying after awhile


Jay only have a email on him and bleek says that changes all the time and only a few have it

 

[FreshAIG]

Full ep

 

[-DMP-]

2 things

Diddy asked Jay to write the song

Jay gave sauce the opportunity to write the song

Sauce pretty much retired from rapping off those checks for years

I think (not exactly sure) it was a end date to when the royalties stopped per sting

Sauce stopped getting those checks those was the biggest ones


Sauce had a pic of a basket of mail of unopened checks next to his recliner from ghost writing


But those “I will be missing you” checks was massive


Those stop coming in


Sauce wanted Jay to step in


Jay said “you both grown men you both handle that”



Which made sauce super upset at jay


That’s pretty much where Jay said that quote

“People are not upset for what I did to them …. They get upset at me for what I didn’t do for them”



To be honest I kinda get it


Imagine having a card like Jay as a friend but he not really trying to go out his way to help you


I would be upset too



But Jay is like “damn I’m not a genie to grant wishes all the time”


That’s why Memphis bleek will go out his way not to ask Jay for anything


Because it got to be annoying after awhile


Jay only have a email on him and bleek says that changes all the time and only a few have it

damn jay gave sauce the lay up like that

 

[ajnapoleon]

damn jay gave sauce the lay up like that

yeah he did

and sauce is worthy of it


its not a hot take to say

Jaz
sauce
jay


are the best ghost writers in hip-hop history

might be of all time


they can write in any style on top of that Jaz can produce and sing


it used to be the top guys could

rap write DJ produce and break dance


its not like that anymore

CL smooth can rap rap and DJ

Rakim can rap write produce and DJ


diamond D can rap write and produce and DJ

Jazzy Jeff can DJ produce and dance

Q-tip can write rap produce and dance


Chill from chill N groove can rap and dj





common and write rap and dance





all that is gone damn near with the next wave

 

[Raw Lyrics]

young man, Jaz O has credits. Everyone has benefitted off of Jaz's style except Jaz. Das Efx, LL, and Kane all crossed over using Jaz's style. When Jaz reinvinted himself, Jay Z took that style and sold millions. Plus he produced Jay's first hit, had one of the dopest songs on Vol 1 with "rap game/crack game". Had one of the hottest verses on "nikka what". Produced tracks on classic albums from Group Home and MOP, etc. He's definitely legendary, just unsung. If you can't name a single Jaz track he's been a part of that you enjoy, that says a lot about you as a so called hip hop fan. That's not the flex you think it is

+rep

 

[TrifeGod]

Jay fans that shyt on Jaz will be forever weird to me but obviously its nothing new in the realm of idolization

 

[ajnapoleon]

Jay fans that shyt on Jaz will be forever weird to me but obviously its nothing new in the realm of idolization

No one shyts on Jaz

He made the strange choice of being in that cult in atl doing the tiime he should have been most active in music


It’s pics of 21 savage as a kid with his mom and I think his father in that cult


That was a huge issue


People forget about that part