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[theworldismine13]

How the fukk do you expect to grow power with a party that refuses to do anything with or work with us? Seems to me like giving up votes without demanding anything in return to a party that has demonstrated it won't work with us unless absolutely forced would DIMINISH our power

Can you explain in step by step detail how this "split the vote" plan is supposed to work?

well first of all, i never said anything about doing anything with or doing something for us

when you say giving up votes without demanding anything in return, are you referring to the republican party or the democratic party? cuz it seems to me that applies to both parties, i think you need to explain what have black people gotten out of voting 90% democratic

splitting the vote increases power because in close elections its the swing vote that has the most power

 

[gho3st]

This never happened.


Anyways all this vid proves is that Ron Paul is likely a white supremacist, like 95% of most white folk. Should we all support Obama then?

yes you should since Obama will run again in 2016

 

[CHL]

Engage with twism the lunatic, brehs

 

[CHL]

yes you should since Obama will run again in 2016

husseins caliphate is nearly here

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

well first of all, i never said anything about doing anything with or doing something for us

Dont make up arguments and attach them to me, I never claimed that's what you said. But ultimately, thats what it comes down to. U can talk about "influence" and "power" but all that shyt is meaningless if it doesn't translate to tangible action

when you say giving up votes without demanding anything in return, are you referring to the republican party or the democratic party? cuz it seems to me that applies to both parties, i think you need to explain what have black people gotten out of voting 90% democratic

You're deflecting and Im not jumping for it. I never said we have been getting anything out of voting 90% democratic. But what good will voting 50/50 do if we are just as lax on accountability on the Republicans as we are on the Democrats?

splitting the vote increases power because in close elections its the swing vote that has the most power

Way to completely move the goal posts... you have been on this "split the vote" nonsense for years and are only just bringing up this "close elections" bullshyt for the first time today

Not to mention, all elections aren't close, and if a Democrat happens to be a better option for black people in an election it seems pretty stupid to demand they not vote for them

How about we hold politicians accountable and vote in our interests as each election requires.... which may mean 100% Republican in one election, 100% Democrat in another, 100% Libertarian in another. How does voting 50/50 in every election guarantee better representation in every election... all that does is guarantee both parties a certain amount of votes and completely cancel out our electoral power

 

[theworldismine13]

Dont make up arguments and attach them to me, I never claimed that's what you said. But ultimately, thats what it comes down to. U can talk about "influence" and "power" but all that shyt is meaningless if it doesn't translate to tangible action

but im disagreeing with you, it doesnt come to down to tangible action

power is important in and of itself, and black people need to focus on power, period

You're deflecting and Im not jumping for it. I never said we have been getting anything out of voting 90% democratic. But what good will voting 50/50 do if we are just as lax on accountability on the Republicans as we are on the Democrats?

i have no idea what you mean by accountability

again, power is important in and of itself

Way to completely move the goal posts... you have been on this "split the vote" nonsense for years and are only just bringing up this "close elections" bullshyt for the first time today

i have always said that, im not bringing it up just today

but you dont even have enough reading comprehension to understand that splitting the votes means voting for both parties, so its not surprising that me saying that swing votes have more power millions of times went over your head

Not to mention, all elections aren't close, and if a Democrat happens to be a better option for black people in an election it seems pretty stupid to demand they not vote for them

i have no idea what you are babbling about, im not sure why you dont understand that splitting the vote means voting for both democrats and republicans, are you retarded?

How about we hold politicians accountable and vote in our interests as each election requires.... which may mean 100% Republican in one election, 100% Democrat in another, 100% Libertarian in another. How does voting 50/50 in every election guarantee better representation in every election... all that does is guarantee both parties a certain amount of votes and completely cancel out our electoral power

again, i dont even know what the hell you are babbling about, you sound hysterical

splitting the vote doesnt mean exactly 50/50, it came mean 60/40 or 70/30 or 49/49, i cant believe i have to explain this, why do you have so much problems digesting the phrase "splitting the vote"

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

i have no idea what you mean

Why do I even waste my fukking time.

 

[theworldismine13]

the thing people need to understand is that politics is just a tool, politics is not the key to progressing as a people



once you understand that basic principle (that voting will not save the black race and that its just an extension of economics), then you start realizing the real purpose and power of voting and politics and why splitting the vote makes more sense

 

[theworldismine13]

Why do I even waste my fukking time.

i dont know why either, you arent holding anybody accountable, so why do you keep using that word? how are black people holding the democratic party accountable?

 

[Robbie3000]

Dont make up arguments and attach them to me, I never claimed that's what you said. But ultimately, thats what it comes down to. U can talk about "influence" and "power" but all that shyt is meaningless if it doesn't translate to tangible action


You're deflecting and Im not jumping for it. I never said we have been getting anything out of voting 90% democratic. But what good will voting 50/50 do if we are just as lax on accountability on the Republicans as we are on the Democrats?


Way to completely move the goal posts... you have been on this "split the vote" nonsense for years and are only just bringing up this "close elections" bullshyt for the first time today

Not to mention, all elections aren't close, and if a Democrat happens to be a better option for black people in an election it seems pretty stupid to demand they not vote for them

How about we hold politicians accountable and vote in our interests as each election requires.... which may mean 100% Republican in one election, 100% Democrat in another, 100% Libertarian in another. How does voting 50/50 in every election guarantee better representation in every election... all that does is guarantee both parties a certain amount of votes and completely cancel out our electoral power

I don't even think he knows what he means by "Increase power". It's just more gibberish by TWISM.

We haven't even discussed how he shares the conservative racist rooted belief that black people are dumb and only vote Democratic out of blind allegiance. He doesn't give black people credit for thinking through the issues, coming to a logical and rational conclusion and voting for a party that is more aligned with it's interests. He thinks like most racist conservatives that we vote Democratic in search of some white benevolent father figure to save us. Forgetting that black people used to vote Republican until the 1960s when they were overtaken by the Dixiecrats post Civil Rights legislation.

It's really quite insulting.

He has internalized racist white beliefs and rationalized them as some kind of bright forward looking idea.

 

[thekingsmen]

the thing people need to understand is that politics is just a tool, politics is not the key to progressing as a people



once you understand that basic principle (that voting will not save the black race and that its just an extension of economics), then you start realizing the real purpose and power of voting and politics and why splitting the vote makes more sense

Best Post of the Thread.

 

[theworldismine13]

I don't even think he knows what he means by "Increase power". It's just more gibberish by TWISM.

We haven't even discussed how he shares the conservative racist rooted belief that black people are dumb and only vote Democratic out of blind allegiance. He doesn't give black people credit for thinking through the issues, coming to a logical and rational conclusion and voting for a party that is more aligned with it's interests. He thinks like most racist conservatives that we vote Democratic in search of some white benevolent father figure to save us. Forgetting that black people used to vote Republican until the 1960s when they were overtaken by the Dixiecrats post Civil Rights legislation.

It's really quite insulting.

He has internalized racist white beliefs and rationalized them as some kind of bright forward looking idea.

except i never said that, in fact i said that black people voting for democratic is rational, it doesn't mean its the best strategy, but its totally understandable and rational why black people vote 90% democratic

but my point isnt just my personal opinion its also a prediction, i think just like republicans embracing dixiecrats was an inflection point, the obama presidency is also an inflection point, its the culmination of black democratic voting and its shown black people the limits of political power, and thats a good thing, I think me and an increasingly amount of black people will realize that economics>>>>>politics and that the agreement between democrats and the black community is over and that split voting and free agency in politics is the way forward

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

i dont know why either, you arent holding anybody accountable, so why do you keep using that word? how are black people holding the democratic party accountable?

Since when

- have I claimed I was holding Democrats accountable?
- am I the political representative of all black people?

Don't bother answering, I know you will just claim "i have no idea what you mean"

 

[theworldismine13]

Since when

- have I claimed I was holding Democrats accountable?
- am I the political representative of all black people?

Don't bother answering, I know you will just claim "i have no idea what you mean"

you said there is no point in voting unless you hold the party accountable, from that statement i assumed that you only vote for people that you hold accountable and since apparently you vote democratic i just assumed you hold democrats accountable

- am I the political representative of all black people?

you apparently represent the democratic party, im just asking a simple question, how do black people hold the democratic party accountable, if that question is too much for you then dont answer it

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

you said there is no point in voting unless you hold the party accountable, from that statement i assumed that you only vote for people that you hold accountable and since apparently you vote democratic i just assumed you hold democrats accountable


you apparently represent the democratic party, im just asking a simple question, how do black people hold the democratic party accountable, if that question is too much for you then dont answer it

I havent voted Democrat since 2008

Meanwhile u are a proud Obamabot telling black people to invalidate our collective vote

But why would I expect anything more from you.