Jeb Bush: "People Need To Work Longer Hours"

[DEAD7]

 

[TheDarceKnight]

That's the rub right there though.
Some of the hardest working people on the planet are also the most poorly compensated.
You gonna tell me someone busting their ass on a roof all day fixing an AC, putting up the framing for a house, cleaning a house is not working as hard as my ass who is sitting in front of a computer in an ac'd office looking at numbers on a screen?

It's not about working harder, people already work hard as fuk.

The hardest job I ever had was delivering Ice. 12-16 hours days 7 days a week for 1200 a week. Very physical very demanding work. Working harder was not an issue. Working a job that paid better was. That's what make what Jeb said such BS.

People are working hard, every day, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week 365 days a year. Working harder isn't the solution.

But yeah lazy people are idiots.

I think you may have read my post wrong man. You're saying exactly what I was trying to say. I was trying to say that working hard is great, but it's also really important to not work yourself to death for the sake of doing it, and certainly not because out of touch lunatics like Jeb Bush say that you should.

We're absolutely in agreement. In fact I don't even think "some of" the hardest working people are the most poorly compensated. I think the hardest working people across the board, worldwide, are probably the worst compensated.

 

[Serious]

speak up.

 

[Brown_Pride]

I think you may have read my post wrong man. You're saying exactly what I was trying to say. I was trying to say that working hard is great, but it's also really important to not work yourself to death for the sake of doing it, and certainly not because out of touch lunatics like Jeb Bush say that you should.

We're absolutely in agreement. In fact I don't even think "some of" the hardest working people are the most poorly compensated. I think the hardest working people across the board, worldwide, are probably the worst compensated.

Oh no i was agreeing with you I was more highlighting "the rub" of it all. We're straight.

 

[Red Shield]

Millions of poor whites will come out in support of this buffoon too.

fukk em. They deserve every drop of suffering the elite are going to pour out

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

I'm putting in 70 + hours this week (and still not working on the Sabbath day) and this clown talking about we need more hours ? Man If you dont get the fukk all the way outta here with that bulllllllllshyt.

 

[rapbeats]

Americans already work more than any developed nation....

hey hey. dont fight this nut. he's telling you straight out of his own mouth what you should've already know about the entire REpub party. Stats show that American People have been working more and making less than they should. So now mr repub wants us to work even more and make even less than we should in overall income. And the idiots that keep voting for these fools still dont get it.

 

[rapbeats]

I agree with what he said, but not what he meant.

We need more people with full time jobs that have real benefits and less of this service crap.

We need to "squeeze" working hours. People who are working 60 should be pushed towards 45-50. People working 20 should be pushed towards 30-35.

With commuting, I leave my house at 730 and get back at 930 every day. That's no fun.

now this i can get with. so he better clean it up and say what you said or i'm going to believe they are back at their old tricks again.

 

[kayslay]

20 hrs a week for me and 60k

What do you do?

 

[Amphibious]

Americans already work more than any developed nation....

We work 2nd most hours in the world. China is #1.

 

[Amphibious]

20 hrs a week for me and 60k

Lying is still cool on the internet?

 

[TheDarceKnight]

I have no evidence to support this, but I'd bet that Jeb Bush has never actually worked a 40+ hour work week in his entire life.

 

[Amphibious]

I agree. Why is the 40-hour work week the default?

If you want to be some lazy-ass, then go move to Europe.

America is the land of discipline and hard work.

fukk up holmes.

Work week should be Mon-Thur 8 hours a day.

32 hours a week.

People will become more sufficient if this occurs.

Vote me brehs.

 

[Madvillain]

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/wisconsin-seven-day-work-week/398189/

A 7-Day Workweek Could Soon Be Legal in Wisconsin
In a state where unions have been mostly defanged, is there anyone to speak up against the elimination of weekends?

Darren Hauck / Reuters

This week, presidential candidate Jeb Bush was harshly criticized for saying that the solution to some of America’s economic woes could be solved if Americans worked more hours. Republican politicians in Wisconsin are trying to make this theory reality, with a proposal to allow seven-day workweeks.

Wisconsin’s GOP is trying to nix an existing law that requires employers in the manufacturing and retail sectors to give employees at least 24 hours off during each consecutive seven-day period. Currently, for an employee to skip his or her weekly day off, an employer has to get approval from the state’s Department of Workforce Development. The Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce association—a staunch advocate of the bill—suggests that the step is onerous and unnecessary, since the department has approved 733 such requests over the past five years, a number they imply means that the department is rubber-stamping the requests. Supporters also suggest that the plan ultimately helps employees who want to work more hours.

But there are many who are skeptical. “I think it's been portrayed as an effort to try to help workers; it's clearly designed to benefit employers,” says Donald F. Kettl a professor of public policy at the University of Maryland and the former director of the Robert M. La Follette School of Public Affairs at the University of Wisconsin. “Many people like extra hours, but the idea of being in a position where you're asked to work seven days [raises the question] of how much of a choice it really is.” In response, advocates of the bill suggest that coercion won’t be an issue, and if it is, employees can report business owners.

But evidence of troubling labor practices that force workers into more hours, or include intimidation or fear of losing one’s job if you turn down hours, or shifts, or complain has repeatedly cropped up in recent years, especially as more employers shift their schedule-making practices and many Americans remain desperate to hold onto any employment at all. Employees, labor supporters, and unions have railed against the increased use of on-demand labor—which often means that employees trek in to work only to be told to go home since there aren’t enough customers. Workers may also receive last-minute calls directing them to come in quickly or stay home from a planned shift. The short notice about changes can mean fluctuating hours, scrambling to find childcare, and turning down shifts even when you want to work. It also means volatile weekly and monthly income, and fear of employer retribution for not adhering to tenuous schedules. In theory, fear of retribution or feelings of intimidation when it comes to work schedules shouldn’t be happening. And ideally, if employees feel that they are being treated unfairly, they can turn to legal channels for help—but doing so on your own can be a terrifying and long process, and losing a job can leave many workers unable to make ends meet. That’s where outside assistance can play a role. Earlier this year workers in unionized Macy’s stores got their employer to agree to give them more notice about their schedules. And the United Food and Commercial Workers union helped push Walmart to implement better scheduling practices as well.

But workers in Wisconsin don’t necessarily have access to similar support, at least not anymore. Under the tenure of Governor Scott Walker, organized labor’s power has been severely depleted within the state, a radical change from the days when the state had a strong union presence. Though Walker might not have a direct hand in the current seven-day workweek proposal, his changes have certainly helped set the stage for decreased opposition to such a bill. “[Republicans] think they have the unions on the run and they want to try to do as much as they can to weaken them,” Kettl says. He adds that the alliances between Democrats and unions, and Republicans and businesses is clear and strong in Wisconsin—stronger than it is in many other states. “Every effort that is made to weaken unions is simultaneously an effort that's being made to wound the Democrats.” The push for a seven-day workweek from the Republican party is indicative of the ongoing struggle between the two parties and their allies.

According to Kettl, “There are big and deep ideological battles where the conservative wing of the Republican party is resurgent in Wisconsin and they see this as an incredible opportunity to try as best they can to push Wisconsin from blue to purple to red.”

 

[Ghanaian Armor]

When I am a business owner I won't have to worry about competition.

The level of service provided by people who need to work 60 hours a week will be vastly inferior to those working 35-45 hours.

If you want to make the goods and services provided by and in America less efficient and of lower quality and value then yes - Please institute 60 hour work-weeks so we can start to see quality of life decrease even further than it already has.

There are roughly 1 million expats with American passports. That number will jump to 3 million and then 5 million in the next 25 years if they are not careful. Seems like an insignificant number but their buying power is probably 5x the average Americans so let that help you put into perspective the economic and geopolitical impact. Over 50% of expats have a BA and some kind of profitable skill. Do we really want to keep pushing the envelope and not only chasing away foreign students who come here to study and then work, but American born citizens who are fed up with this bullshyt?