what's wrong with that? In no order these players are better all time imo:
MJ
Kareem
Bill
Wilt
Magic
Bird
Shaq
Hakeem
Timmy
Kobe
And LeBron
Who would exclude from the list and why? Where do you rank Oscar?
Hakeem, Lebron, maybe Shaq but he'd be bottom 10 to me
The last paragraph alone is GOAT worthy.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, 66, agrees. According to an article by Steve Aschburner on NBA.com, Abdul-Jabbar, who won an NBA title with Robertson in Milwaukee in 1971, recently weighed in on the subject, telling ESPN Radio, "LeBron is awesome, MJ was awesome, but I think Oscar Robertson would have kicked them both in the behind.''
Cavs broadcaster Jim Chones agreed with Robertson's basic assertion. He was a sophomore at Marquette University when the Bucks won the NBA championship in 1971. When he hears the GOAT discussion reduced to Jordan vs. James, he wonders why players like Robertson, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain and Elgin Baylor aren't included.
"You're talking about a generational thing,'' said Chones, who will turn 64 next Saturday. "The majority of people who vote for this stuff are young people. They don't have any idea about how great Oscar was.
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Bill Russell said that Oscar was the greatest player ever. The reason he said that was because of his court awareness and because of his size. Oscar was built like a body builder. Anybody who saw him when he was young … he was put together. The guy who used to fear him the most was his closest rival -- Jerry West. … Whenever he played Jerry West, Jerry never got off because he was so big, Jerry couldn't guard him. Jerry used to have a hard time guarding him. He's huge. People don't realize how big O was. He was way ahead of his time.''
Like Cavs teammates Kyrie Irving and Matthew Dellavedova, who said Robertson revolutionized point-guard play, Jack knows the most pertinent information about Robertson -- that he's the only player in NBA history to average a triple double for a season -- 30.8 points, 12.5 rebounds and 11.4 assists for the Cincinnati Royals in 1961-62.
"That right there speaks for itself,'' Irving said. "To do that in any era is unbelievable.''
Ironically, it's the same season Chamberlain averaged 50.4 points for the Philadelphia Warriors.
"No question he should be in the GOAT conversation. He has the credentials to be able to stack up. That guy was special.''
Every discussion of Robertson revolves around the triple double, which was no big deal to him at the time.
"Oscar said if he'd have known that the triple double was going to be such a big thing, he'd have done it every game,'' Carr recalled.
But Robertson's achievements go way beyond that one season. In fact, he averaged a triple-double over his first five seasons -- 30.2 points, 10.3 rebounds and 10.6 assists in 384 games from 1960-65. In college at the University of Cincinnati, he was named the national player of the year in 1958, 1959 and 1960. He was a co-captain with Jerry West of the gold-medal winning 1960 U.S. Olympic team. He was the NBA Rookie of the Year in 1961, the MVP in 1964 and won the championship with Milwaukee in 1971. He was enshrined in the Hall of Fame in 1980, was named to the NBA's 50th anniversary team in 1996 and was voted Player of the Century by the National Association of Basketball Coaches in 2000. He still ranks 10th on the NBA's all-time scoring list with 26,710 points and sixth on the all-time assist list with 9,887.
Off the court, he brought a class-action lawsuit against the league that led to free agency and increased salaries, and he also served as president of the NBA Players Association.
@ this turning into dirk vs KG thread number #30
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