Buck Seventy
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That's pretty much what 20 plus pages have been about so far.
There's so much revisionist history about JD and Outkast, I wouldn't know where to begin
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Jermaine Dupri Says He Influenced ATL more than OutKast
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That's pretty much what 20 plus pages have been about so far.
There's so much revisionist history about JD and Outkast, I wouldn't know where to begin
These bytch ass nikkas better bow down 
you can use the payola argument with everybody. I would bet a rack that outkast had more payola behind them than anything under JD. especially those first couple albums.
WARM IT UP was huge. and still gets crazy play in mixes to this very day. I wouldn't be surprised of I hear it on one of the noon radio mixes in about 15 minutes.
and they had a handful of other hits & 2 other successful albums. the thing is, when youre not one of those rappers whose legacies the industry forces you to memorize, and you had a MONSTER hit, people will casually call you a one-hit wonder for some reason. ive seen people on here refer to mc hammer - of all people, as a one-hit wonder, when in reality, he put out artists that had more than one hit themselves.
this is FALSE.
Atlanta has been regarded as a black entertainment capital since like '90-91.
singles-producers could never be top 10.
at least the neptunes had the clipse albums.
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Dzali OG
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breh...Don't do this. Atlanta wasn't no damn entertainment capitol in 92.
It was pretty dope for us black people IN THE SOUTH, but weren't no nikkas moving there from NY or Cali to get on.
Hell, if I'm not mistaken artist there still went to NY or Miami to master their albums back then. Or Atl had one major studio...I think it was Patchwerk if I'm not wrong.
Don't do this. Atlanta wasn't no damn entertainment capitol in 92.
It was pretty dope for us black people IN THE SOUTH, but weren't no nikkas moving there from NY or Cali to get on.
Hell, if I'm not mistaken artist there still went to NY or Miami to master their albums back then. Or Atl had one major studio...I think it was Patchwerk if I'm not wrong.
yes people were indeed moving down there to get on.
how do you think TLC formed?? the highest-selling female group of all-times!!!! left eye is from philly. she specifically went down there to get a deal.
lots of artists were moving down there to get deals.
shoot, the biggest name in rap - mc hammer, was basically reppin Atlanta as his 2nd home.
Atlanta been poppin since babyface & la reid setup shop. then mike bivins went down there with biv10. where you think bobby n whitney were lampin??? then Jermaine set it off on his end.
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Jermaine dupri had 2 big albums as a rapper. premo & trackmasters have none.
and I don't think anyone is crediting JD as being an influential rapper.
Atlanta is more of an r&b and producer-driven city, which is right up JD's alley. I think a lot of Atlanta locales want to feel like theyre some sort of golden hip-hop city.
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you can use the payola argument with everybody. I would bet a rack that outkast had more payola behind them than anything under JD. especially those first couple albums.
WARM IT UP was huge. and still gets crazy play in mixes to this very day. I wouldn't be surprised of I hear it on one of the noon radio mixes in about 15 minutes.
and they had a handful of other hits & 2 other successful albums. the thing is, when youre not one of those rappers whose legacies the industry forces you to memorize, and you had a MONSTER hit, people will casually call you a one-hit wonder for some reason. ive seen people on here refer to mc hammer - of all people, as a one-hit wonder, when in reality, he put out artists that had more than one hit themselves.
this is FALSE.
Atlanta has been regarded as a black entertainment capital since like '90-91.
singles-producers could never be top 10.
at least the neptunes had the clipse albums.
Timbaland is more than a singles producer and I don't really see how The Neptunes having The Clipse solidifies their rep considering The Neptunes couldn't sustain The Clipse beyond Lord Willin'. Both Timbaland and The Neptunes are solidified because they made game changing records with legends. And on top of that, legends went to them for More than singles. Again, Timbaland had top shelf songs on pivotal Jay Z albums among other greats like Premo. Even still, Tinbaland >>>>>>> JD.
beenz
Rap Guerilla
You can make a very legit argument that he has.
edit: To be honest, he's 100% right the more I think about it
Gotta disagree. Outkast influence is greater than all JD's artists combined. They set the bar when it comes to influence and creativity in Atlanta. And have the sales and accolades to back it up as well.
But no one really is like Kast though. You can try and say Goodie Mob, but that's more Organized Noise and general Dungeon Fam.
JD has multiple diamond albums on his resume.
Take a look at his production credits and he has a VERY legitimate argument and resume. It's not as outlandish as it sounds.
Jermaine Dupri production discography - Wikipedia
His RnB work stands out the most of course, but strictly from an ATL point of view, he's right.
100% agree. If we really wanna keep it true, JD is one of the greatest producers of all time.
agree with this mostly esp Kilo, Raheem, and Sammy.
It was known that JD and SSD was Atlanta though. They didn't rep it as hard as others, but it's not like no one knew they were Atlanta.
But between JD and Kast with Influence, gotta go JD. I guess we need to define "influence" with this thread. No one really sounds like Kast. JD makes hits out of both his original shyt and others sounds/waves. That's more of the mark of a good producer.
agree with this mostly esp Kilo, Raheem, and Sammy.
It was known that JD and SSD was Atlanta though. They didn't rep it as hard as others, but it's not like no one knew they were Atlanta.
But between JD and Kast with Influence, gotta go JD. I guess we need to define "influence" with this thread. No one really sounds like Kast. JD makes hits out of both his original shyt and others sounds/waves. That's more of the mark of a good producer.
I think people are placing too much emphasis on JD's production forgetting that it's R&B hits in regard to ATL. Outside of Kriss Kross and "Welcome To Atlanta", there are few songs that JD has with ATL artists. He doesn't have influence like that on the ATL rap scene and that includes the lingo, the sound, and overall culture.
Even in the interview, JD kept backtracking and pretty much reduced his influence to how many records Kriss Kross sold, paying magazines to feature Atlanta, and making it rain in magic city. Dude was running around in New York with Diddy and then wants to talk about how he brought Diddy to Atlanta as if Diddy didn't direct one of Kast's first videos in Atlanta.
Agree with this
Dupri was king for a min...outkast became truly big after the The Way U move era album came out. They went mainstream. Especially Andre 3000's single.
You weren't paying attention in 98, I see.
