JESUS AND HOLY SPIRIT...TWO BODIES?

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We're probably saying the same thing but from different angles and perspectives as I prefer the metaphor of a Game and my tales come from my experience and insight, intuition and observation whereas you seem to be rooted in the other hemisphere of your brain that looks outward for its reference.

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All in your mind, everytime...
Catholic imagery doesn’t do it for me unfortunately

To me God is in our hearts, and when he made us in his image male and female may have been talking about our downstairs parts rather than our upstairs

Minds come and go you see
 

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That isn't what I said or illustrated but I can see how you'd interpret this. Like I said elsewhen about Jesus being crucified on a cross with two thieves at Golgotha is encoding the hemispheres of your brain and the death of higher awareness. One is linear and logical and the other is emotional and intuitive. Once centered you obtain true consciousness free of these distortions, hence resurrection.

I can break the cypher on the texts and glimpse with the codex but prefer to invest my attention in other dimensions of experience rooted firmly in the present moment and prime experience as thats all there is when you get down to it. The rest is an illusion within an illusion, like Zeke said.
 
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That isn't what I said or illustrated but I can see how you'd interpret this. Like I said elsewhen about Jesus being crucified on a cross with two thieves at Golgotha is encoding the hemispheres of your brain and the death of higher awareness. One is linear and logical and the other is emotional and intuitive. Once centered you obtain true consciousness free of these distortions, hence resurrection.

I can break the cypher on the texts and glimpse with the codex but prefer to invest my attention in other dimensions of experience rooted firmly in the present moment and prime experience as thats all there is when you get down to it. The rest is an illusion within an illusion, like Zeke said.
I think you should reconsider the thieves and Barabbas (Son of the father)

You ODing on the esoteric without context to Jewish mythos

That might work with other belief systems where deities are just chthonic forces but it’s not the same here. Agree to disagree on it
 

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Could you sum up your perspective in a paragraph in terms of what you think the reason for us being here and the way it is @MMS?

As I've said I feel we're in a game with very good graphics and the aim of it is to realize you're playing it in order to transcend the current character and recognize the player beyond this realm that actually makes this happen as its all occurring inside your awareness. You don't have to do that though, you can just play the stage as programmed without questioning anything as most choose.

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Also, seeing as you mentioned the chthonic, what do you make of the gnostic take on life and their intent of the creator/creation and how do you differentiate the deity you venerate from the ones you've classed as underworld imposters?

Its always good to hear other perspectives, especially if they clash with your own, because its the mark of a wise mind to be able to entertain the view of another without accepting or rejecting it due to personal biases.
 
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Could you sum up your perspective in a paragraph in terms of what you think the reason for us being here and the way it is @MMS?

As I've said I feel we're in a game with very good graphics and the aim of it is to realize you're playing it in order to transcend the current character and recognize the player beyond this realm that actually makes this happen as its all occurring inside your awareness. You don't have to do that though, you can just play the stage as programmed without questioning anything as most choose.

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Also, seeing as you mentioned the chthonic, what do you make of the gnostic take on life and their intent of the creator/creation and how do you differentiate the deity you venerate from the ones you've classed as underworld imposters?

Its always good to hear other perspectives, especially if they clash with your own, because its the mark of a wise mind to be able to entertain the view of another without accepting or rejecting it due to personal biases.
Unlike you and I who create finite things that whither

The lord creates infinite worlds with his divine Eros according to his wishes and shared that for free. Gnostics have a problem accepting gaps between them and the possibility of a higher power (or in my belief a lower One)

"Hear, O Israel: YHWH is our God, YHWH is one"

This is literal in a sense that you may never fully fathom. God fashioned an emergent universe that he dwells with and the very ordinances he chose brings about life in such a way that it could be argued that there is no such thing as true death

In eastern religions “liberation or moksha” is the ultimate goal. To me making that connection to the holy one is what changes all perspectives. You’ll understand that the idea of it being a game itself is a blessing from him that you have the freedom to see it anyway you choose.
 

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Yea “life is but a dream” :ahh:


until you are resurrected and face judgment :whoa:


Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.

Revelation 21:8 "[A]s for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, the murderers, the fornicators, the sorcerers, the idolaters, and all liars, their place will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death."

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NIV bible is trash and comes from the Devil. Just like the rest of the Bibles. The true meaning of the word of God has been subtly changed and manipulated by Satan to fool people into error and damnation.

Satan loves to pretend he’s an angel of light. He’s also the king of liars, finessers and deceivers.

Read the King James Bible (1611), The official Bible of the Lord and the only true word of God.
 
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@O Fenômeno

NIT bible is trash and comes from the Devil. Just like the rest of the Bibles. The true meaning of the word of God has been subtly changed and manipulated by Satan to fool people into error and damnation.

Satan loves to pretend he’s an angel of light. He’s also the king of liars, finessers and deceivers.

Read the King James Bible (1611), The official Bible of the Lord and the only true word of God.
Yea I constantly look to see what the Hebrew bible says for a particular verse..especially when GOD name is mentioned.

And king James bible been altered...their priorities for that bible was to make sure it fit the Kings agenda. I bet some scriptures about slavery have been altered too.


They say the reason BOOK OF ENOCH isn't included is because it tells of angels rebelling against GOD...and also because of prophecies regarding CHRIST.

William tynesdale did a translation I'm tryna read that...he got killed because he criticized the King tryna get his marriage annulled. YOU'RE USUALLY a prophet when you get killed or martyred for a just cause...and I figure he got killed so his bible translation probably thorough. In fact over half the king James version comes from Tynesdale version.


The Tyndale Bible generally refers to the body of biblical translations by William Tyndale into Early Modern English, made c. 1522–1536. Tyndale's Bible is credited with being the first Bible translation in the English language to work directly from Hebrew and Greek texts, although it relied heavily upon the Latin Vulgate. Furthermore, it was the first English biblical translation that was mass-produced as a result of new advances in the art of printing.


1530, Tyndale wrote The Practice of Prelates, opposing Henry's plan to seek the annulment of his marriage on the grounds that it contravened scripture.[9] Fleeing England, Tyndale sought refuge in the Flemish territory of the Catholic Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor.

In 1535 Tyndale was arrested, and jailed in the castle of Vilvoorde (Fulford) outside Brussels for over a year. In 1536 he was convicted of heresy and executed by strangulation, after which his body was burnt at the stake
 
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Jesus had a twin brother

Real life Double Impact ish:



Yea “life is but a dream” :ahh:


until you are resurrected and face judgment

Christianity has been around a couple of thousand years, yes? Lets say if we go by their timeline that says the world is 6000 years old then what happened to your ancestors who didn't get the (as yet unpublished) message? Riddle me that...
 

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Real life Double Impact ish:





Christianity has been around a couple of thousand years, yes? Lets say if we go by their timeline that says the world is 6000 years old then what happened to your ancestors who didn't get the (as yet unpublished) message? Riddle me that...


I dunno, that’s a question for God. :heh:

We know more or less what most ancient cultures believed based on their religions. So pick and choose a people and research their God/s

The easy “Christian” answer is to say Jesus death and “sacrifice” applies retroactively to anyone who truly believed in the same “one” God who sent him and didn’t worship other “false” Gods, etc.... So basically “accept the father” same as “accept the son” and you’ll be forgiven ultimately. Vice versa for Christians today who aren’t Jewish and have no real connection to the 6,000+ years of yaweh dealing with his “people”. “Accept the son/accept the father.”

Overall, the Bible says everyone will be judged. And God is just. So you just gotta “trust the process”.

Regardless what side questions you might have, if you believe in God can you really question his plan or criticize HIS STORY? That’s why questions like these don’t keep me up at night.

Some things we aren’t meant to understand 100% especially considering we live in this era/time and have the Coli of all places to spread the gospel :banderas:.

Accounting for the past isn’t our responsibility.

I’m sure the “ancestors” had their own answer to this question. :manny:

Anyways, @MMS might have a better response though. although I’m sure it might include ancient Egypt :youngsabo:
 

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I dunno, that’s a question for God. :heh:

We know more or less what most ancient cultures believed based on their religions. So pick and choose a people and research their God/s

The easy “Christian” answer is to say Jesus death and “sacrifice” applies retroactively to anyone who truly believed in the same “one” God who sent him and didn’t worship other “false” Gods, etc.... So basically “accept the father” same as “accept the son” and you’ll be forgiven ultimately. Vice versa for Christians today who aren’t Jewish and have no real connection to the 6,000+ years of yaweh dealing with his “people”. “Accept the son/accept the father.”

Overall, the Bible says everyone will be judged. And God is just. So you just gotta “trust the process”.

Regardless what side questions you might have, if you believe in God can you really question his plan or criticize HIS STORY? That’s why questions like these don’t keep me up at night.

Some things we aren’t meant to understand 100% especially considering we live in this era/time and have the Coli of all places to spread the gospel :banderas:.

Accounting for the past isn’t our responsibility.

I’m sure the “ancestors” had their own answer to this question. :manny:

Anyways, @MMS might have a better response though. although I’m sure it might include ancient Egypt :youngsabo:
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