Jill Stein Taking Shots At Bernie In New Interview :lupe:

[kingofnyc]

It's to make a stand.

125 million people voted in 2012
she got 400K - thats a whopping .036%


breh - its MUCH better shyt to do on Nov. 08 then voting for Jill Stein

 

[tru_m.a.c]

I clowned her months ago and people got mad at me lol. I like most of her stances, but no one can seriously envision her as president. She runs every 4 years just to try to get funding to become viable. Instead, she should start trying to build from the bottom up. You would think that all those states that supported Bernie would be fertile ground. Find some progressive politicians right now and see if you can get them to switch parties. The Green Party is not a serious party until they figure out how to fund raise and win local elections. You would think that college campuses would be fertile ground. They should be able to get at least 10% of college kids to register as greens.

I thought @tru_m.a.c was saying don't mention Hillary around him

I was talking about Hillary but @Abogado 's comments still ring true

Anti-establishment groups scare people. Trying to barge in on the presidential debates in 2012 just hurts your credibility with the voter who feels safe and comfortable with the devil they know. How often did we hear people try and compare Bernie to Russ Perot, even though they ran completely different campaigns. Anti-establishment parties are too radical, which means they are too much of a good thing. Everyone wants to burn down the country and start over again, but nobody wants to walk into the booth and light the match. This election proves as much. Although many people like Bernie, although many people side they Bernie, many couldn't cast what they felt was a radical vote. They want change, but it has to be dressed up in a manner of professionalism and maturity - something the Green Party lacks image wise.

First the Green Party is spread too thin geographically, so they don't own an electorate base. Secondly, neither their party leaders or their base owns a particular industry or corner of the american economy.

Aiming for the independent voter is a losing battle because independents DON'T WANT TO BE AFFILIATED WITH A PARTY. Why would those turned off by Democrat and Republican party shenanigans leave and sign up for another entity that can fall victim to the same level of shady politics?

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Why do you feel pro-organic "presents problems" and why would skepticism around corporate interests in vaccinations be unwarranted? Whether most members of the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee work at academic or medical institutions or not doesn't change the fact that they are subject to corporate and institutional pressure.

Now, that's not to say that thinking everyone is secretly getting shot up with AIDS or something is a legitimate position. But neither is the blind assumption that everything is A-OK. The pharmaceutical, medical, and food industries are all screwed up.

Pro-organic assumes that GMOs are the antithesis of safe and natural or anti-organic. In order to be pro, there has to be an anti (pretty duh-ish I know). This characterization dumbs down the "basic science" part of the debate. To date there are no studies that justify the concept that organic is safer than GMO. And as I've said in countless organic threads here, the very definition of "organic" isn't even the same from state to state, decade to decade, century to century, or reality vs perception.

Here's why that's important.

Why is it well accepted to acknowledge "skepticism around corporate interest in vaccinations"and GMOs, but not accept that same level of skepticism for climate change? So republicans and climate change deniers are bonkers for disregarding the science for nothing more than an economic money grab, but somehow the anti-GMO/pro-organic population's only fault is altruism? Puh-lease. Both populations are conspiracy theorist. Both populations ignore science when it disagrees with their world view.

What I'm describing is no different than the recent "campaign contributions don't affect Hillary's voting record, but campaign contributions from the NRA and Koch brothers affect every Republican" kerfuffle that her voters tried to push this year.

It's ridiculous to believe one and not the other.

The left does this weird balancing act of conspiracy theories and science. Look no further than Bill Maher to understand this hypocrisy.

 

[No1]

I thought @tru_m.a.c was saying don't mention Hillary around him

I mean, I have a lot of people on ignore from the primary season so I could've missed it. I just had to let the chopper fly regardless

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I was talking about Hillary but @Abogado 's comments still ring true

Anti-establishment groups scare people. Trying to barge in on the presidential debates in 2012 just hurts your credibility with the voter who feels safe and comfortable with the devil they know. How often did we hear people try and compare Bernie to Russ Perot, even though they ran completely different campaigns. Anti-establishment parties are too radical, which means they are too much of a good thing. Everyone wants to burn down the country and start over again, but nobody wants to walk into the booth and light the match. This election proves as much. Although many people like Bernie, although many people side they Bernie, many couldn't cast what they felt was a radical vote. They want change, but it has to be dressed up in a manner of professionalism and maturity - something the Green Party lacks image wise.

First the Green Party is spread too thin geographically, so they don't own an electorate base. Secondly, neither their party leaders or their base owns a particular industry or corner of the american economy.

Aiming for the independent voter is a losing battle because independents DON'T WANT TO BE AFFILIATED WITH A PARTY. Why would those turned off by Democrat and Republican party shenanigans leave and sign up for another entity that can fall victim to the same level of shady politics?

I'm not scared by Nth parties. I'm annoyed by their lack of effort to secure minor seats of government.

I would never vote for a Nth party that can't be bothered to win a lesser seat of power/government. Its the height of arrogance for them to even demand the legitimacy of running for the highest office in the land.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I don't I ever seriously paid attention to her before.

She's batshyt crazy, yeah? Or am I being unfair?


@Mephistopheles @Broletariat @Abogado @The Real

Bleeding heart liberals can only agree on climate change. (I need to bold, underline, and italicize this statement because it's extremely significant.)

Either way, my statement was poorly worded. My point is that she's said some leftist shyt that should place her in the loony bin. But that as a whole, leftist often dip their toes in the loony bin on issues such as vaccinations, GMO's, and basic science.

Elizabeth Warren and Bernie both believe in GMO labeling and while they wouldn't be called anti-gmo, they are pro-organic, which presents problems

She's really smart, on paper. Like legitimately.

But a lot of her political views are flat out naivety. Especially with you knowing as much about world affairs as you and I discuss on here. She'd sooner have the wool pulled over her eyes by an adversary with her idealism...so either she's naive or she's lying to her constituents.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Jill Stein is against wifi around children. All you parents with wifi in your homes, she wants that shyt out!

this chick is a harvard educated doctor

This is literally covered on the MCAT

 

[Adam3000]

She's really smart, on paper. Like legitimately.

But a lot of her political views are flat out naivety. Especially with you knowing as much about world affairs as you and I discuss on here. She'd sooner have the wool pulled over her eyes by an adversary with her idealism...so either she's naive or she's lying to her constituents.

Educated =/= Smart

Nothing about her makes me think she is smart

 

[SirReginald]

Her VP pick

 

[SirReginald]

Stop bringing up this woman's name in my presence.

I just asked a question brother.

 

[winb83]

because the system is bought and paid for, and its completely engrained in americans that we only have two choices its not HER fault

You do only have two choices or have you never heard of Duverger's law? Our election structure produces a two party system. For that to change the way our elections happen has to change.

 

[CHL]

dril/kyoon 2016 brehs. cause fukk it.

This would be a dream so many false flags could be prevented

 

[SirReginald]

This would be a dream so many false flags could be prevented

 

[kingofnyc]

You do only have two choices or have you never heard of Duverger's law? Our election structure produces a two party system. For that to change the way our elections happen has to change.

the fact... she was willing to give her nomination to bernie says it all - she probaly funded by one of the conservative billionaire/think tanks under alias. just as the link says 'the spoiler effect' when the tiger jumps into the race taking a solid portions from the leopard with getting secret donations from the gorilla


even thom hartmann, the most progressive radio talk host in the country call jill stein a troll last week on his show

 

[SirReginald]

the fact... she was willing to give her nomination to bernie says it all - she probaly funded by one of the conservative billionaire/think tanks under alias. just as the link says 'the spoiler effect' when the tiger jumps into the race taking a solid portions from the leopard with getting secret donations from the gorilla


even thom hartmann, the most progressive radio talk host in the country call jill stein a troll last week on his show

all her funds come from donations. Don't get mad at us because the millennials don't wanna fukk with Clinton.