Jim Brown To Kaepernick: Desecration of Flag and National Anthem Is Not the Way To Protest

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His approval ratings were shyt before the election when all of the polls had Hillary winning...........until it was actually time to vote. My whole point to you is that whites are deceptive. Stop coming at me with what they say when I'm pointing out what they do. Actions speak louder than words.

It's more politically correct to say that you disapprove of trump because he's so overt with his racism and everything else. He literally does things specifically to anatagonize non whites and some whites aren't comfortable supporting that brand of white supremacy in public even if they do on the low in private. The election proved this.
You are talking in circles. They voted for him according to you because he's a white supremacist. He gets in office and behaves like a white supremacist and now they're upset with him for being what they voted for.

When he took office his approval ratings were 45-47%. His disapproval ratings were lower than his approval ratings at about 41%. Now he's in the 34-32% range approval and 57% disapprove.

In reality the majority didn't vote for him because he was perceived to be a white supremacist. They voted for him because he's a solid bullshyt artist and lied to them and told them he'd make everything better. He got in office and did jack shyt. This isn't about race and white supremacy it's about a guy selling people dreams and when they went to cash the check it bounced.

Granted there are white supremacist that support Trump but that's not what got him elected nor is it really why almost 60% of the country doesn't approve of him.
 

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we live in a country of 300+ Million people...bad things are going to happen.

Should every football player pick a cause and protest and speak about it all the time?

It just wont work out...the NFL is a business...nothing more.
Why would you expect them to want players do anything other than play?

Again...the fukk does "every football player" doing xyz have to do with ONE deciding to protest police brutality, there is no reason to scramble around the point, stop asking stupid questions.

I don't expect the NFL to want players to do anything other than play...but fukk the NFL...the NFL makes it's bread and butter off black brains and bodies, seems to me if the core of the business has a concern they would be supportive of them in a better world but this is what we have.
 

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Again...the fukk does "every football player" doing xyz have to do with ONE deciding to protest police brutality, there is no reason to scramble around the point, stop asking stupid questions.
because if they let Kap slide it sets a precedence.

There are a million and one issues people could address...why exactly should players address them...when the business is playing catch and selling beers?

No owner wants to deal w/ that media frenzy.
He'll probably get picked up after a few weeks when they can bury the story.
 

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because if they let Kap slide it sets a precedence.

There are a million and one issues people could address...why exactly should players address them...when the business is playing catch and selling beers?

No owner wants to deal w/ that media frenzy.
He'll probably get picked up after a few weeks when they can bury the story.

I don't care about them letting KAP slide....them treating him like a criminal while they let actual criminals play says enough. Like I said...you don't see him on TV trying to bend the knee to get a spot on a roster, all you see is a bunch of scared nikkas trying to beg for him because of the implications of what it means for their careers...again this is BIGGER than a stupid ass fukking game and Kap understands that from what I can tell.

Players should do what the fukk they wanna do, owners should do what the fukk they wanna do...but actions speak loud, the undercurrent of racism in the NFL is getting exposed to the sunlight like the rest of society is. It's time for us as a species to put the shyt back on the table an examine it.
 

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I don't care about them letting KAP slide....them treating him like a criminal while they let actual criminals play says enough. Like I said...you don't see him on TV trying to bend the knee to get a spot on a roster, all you see is a bunch of scared nikkas trying to beg for him because of the implications of what it means for their careers...again this is BIGGER than a stupid ass fukking game and Kap understands that from what I can tell.

Players should do what the fukk they wanna do, owners should do what the fukk they wanna do...but actions speak loud, the undercurrent of racism in the NFL is getting exposed to the sunlight like the rest of society is. It's time for us as a species to put the shyt back on the table an examine it.
they aren't treating him like a criminal. they treating him like a "difficult" person. Most people don't like people who go against the grain. It's not right but it's life.
 

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they aren't treating him like a criminal. they treating him like a "difficult" person. Most people don't like people who go against the grain. It's not right but it's life.

In comparison to the criminals they happily pay and cover up for? Yes they are. You got people basically sitting around looking for ways for Kap to redeem himself for...nothing in order to get back into the NFL.
 

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In comparison to the criminals they happily pay and cover up for? Yes they are. You got people basically sitting around looking for ways for Kap to redeem himself for...nothing in order to get back into the NFL.
Being a criminal doesn't make you difficult. most criminals are the most charming people you'd ever meet. Kap wants to take a hardline stance on something thats insignificant in the grand scheme of things. He's foolish.
 

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Being a criminal doesn't make you difficult. most criminals are the most charming people you'd ever meet. Kap wants to take a hardline stance on something thats insignificant in the grand scheme of things. He's foolish.
You begging for negs
 

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Thats what this is about.

Im not against Kap...I just think hes a young guy that didnt think it through...and he's letting people hype him up...when those same people would never do what they are charging him up to do.

Like? I can't think of an equivalent to the anthem protest at a normal job.
 

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It's time for us as a species to put the shyt back on the table an examine it.
As a whole human beings will never get past their differences. There's nothing to examine really people will hate each other for a variety of differences and that's just the way it is.

Here's the logic formula. I'm X and they're Y. X and Y are different and I don't like Y because it's not X. Racism is just a subset of that. You can apply that to sex, sexuality, gender, religion, height, weight, age, or any other of our assorted differences.

There are some people who will condemn that formula for racism but take the same logic and apply it to sexuality and justify it calling people fakkits and perfectly be at ease with it. That's why this isn't going anywhere. Because ultimately humans find that logic conformable for some reason. For the most part it's only when they become the Y of that formula people seem to have issues with it.

The problem isn't racism. The real problem is that logic itself. Racism is a symptom not the disease. The logic is the disease. If you target and fix only a single symptom but the disease remains what's been accomplished? Humans have just shown that they can't abandon that logic in their thinking. Honestly I'm not even sure why.
 

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As a whole human beings will never get past their differences.

There's nothing to examine really people will hate each other for a variety of differences and that's just the way it is.

Here's the logic formula. I'm X and they're Y. X and Y are different and I don't like Y because it's not X. Racism is just a subset of that. You can apply that to sex, sexuality, gender, religion, height, weight, age, or any other of our assorted differences.

There are some people who will condemn that formula for racism but take the same logic and apply it to sexuality and justify it calling people fakkits and perfectly be at ease with it. That's why this isn't going anywhere. Because ultimately humans find that logic conformable for some reason. For the most part it's only when they become the Y of that formula people seem to have issues with it.

The problem isn't racism. The real problem is that logic itself. Racism is a symptom not the disease. The logic is the disease. If you target and fix only a single symptom but the disease remains what's been accomplished? Humans have just shown that they can't abandon that logic in their thinking. Honestly I'm not even sure why.
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I completely disagree, human beings have the capacity to get past their difference but it won't be done from the level of mind we're at. We are collectively ego tripping...you saw how people acted when those towers fell, all that racism shyt went out the window.

The the thing is, it's either going to dawn on us that we don't have to wait until tragedy strikes to be on that level...or we will attract a tragedy big enough that forces our hand. We tend to do the right thing for the wrong reasons. But we have a choice...defeatist attitudes such as that leave cap us off at where we're at..

The problem is we are trying to navigate this with 'logic' and our brains...you can calculate or apply the standard logic to what is really an emotional issue.
 
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