Jim Clyburn & Blacks for Bloomberg, got black folks out here looking crazy

[NZA]

im pretty jaded but i watched that mess last night and still couldnt believe my own ears. it just got worse and worse. and then i check twitter the next day and see angry black woman trending and i thought i was in the twilight zone

 

[Pressure]

You’re a reasonable dude. Is any point made here wrong? I understand being pragmatic but at what point do we push to support politicians that wanna do more.

What laws has Bernie Sanders passed in the last 40 years to benefit black folks.

What legislation has he gotten out of committee and on to the floor?

I'm sorry, I understand that y'all like him, but it has nothing to do with his black agenda.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

What laws has Bernie Sanders passed in the last 40 years to benefit black folks.

What legislation has he gotten out of committee and on to the floor?

I'm sorry, I understand that y'all like him, but it has nothing to do with his black agenda.

Serious question. His amendments don't count?

 

[Pressure]

As far as Bloomberg, his Greenwood initiative, in my opinion, is the type of black centered legislation that many black voters have asked for.

I'm the end you all don't Trust anyone but Bernie to pass their legislation and other people don't believe that Bernie can pass his ideas.

It's not that complicated.

 

[Pressure]

Serious question. His amendments don't count?

Not to me. Not when we're talking big structural change that requires actual sweeping legislation to pass.

 

[THE MACHINE]

Bernie had a layup with black people and still dropped the "people of color". Fukk wrong with him??

 

[Pressure]

Bernie had a layup with black people and still dropped the "people of color". Fukk wrong with him??

I dont know why he refuses to say black people. He seems hell bent on grouping us with other non whites.

 

[SunZoo]

Good thread. Great points made all around. The people here don’t give a fukk though. Half the people here will probably say Nina deserves it or some silly shyt like that.

I've been told on here several times that nobody likes Nina, she's too 'performatively black' for their tastes.

 

[SunZoo]

I am having a hard time computing how black people wouldn't benefit from free college and healthcare.

Because!!!! Mexicans and cacs get to go too!

 

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If southern older black people are not watching these type of news outlets and her solely getting their info from CNN and MSNBC which we know they are. They are by default Low information voters on the subject of joe biden, bernie sanders, liz warren, etc. Most of them will only know what they've been told by the media outlets they watch, listen to, or read. If all you watch are mainstream media outlets that more or less Cape for the establishment left. then guess what kind of info you will get? slanted info that makes them look good and makes everyone else look bad no matter what. So again, if thats your main media odds are you're going to have LESS info then someone who watches other outlets that are not under the crazy label(hannity, rush, glenn beck..etc.)

How many southern black young and old watches the below The Real News Network? Probably very very few. How many of them watch Democracy Now? very very few. How many of them watch both the mainstream media and get online and turn on Tim Black, The majority report, The Hill, etc.? outlets that admit they want a progressive movement but will give you all sides of the equation. are southern blacks, or whites watching these other outlets? NOPE, how's about low info whites? NO, how's about Low info americans period? NO. they are all either watching non of that or watching the mainstream stuff only.

 

[Pressure]

It's not just older black folks. It's black voters in general.

I don't know if it's the platform, the messaging, or the messenger, but these are abysmal numbers.

 

[Serious]

I refuse to watch CNN...

Do better guys...

But yall should peep this:

 

[rapbeats]

In the grand scheme of things IMO we would overall as a community not benefit from neither, but would be well worse off with 4 more years of trump.

Joe's flat out is not going to do shyt for us, Jim clyburns cosign already gave him the ok to continue benign neglect.

the 2nd part is true about joe biden and jim clyburn.

but lets address what you said, You said Neither..meaning a Bernie presidency and we're dreaming for arguments sake. Bernie being able to pass every single legislation he has spoken of. would it help black people as a community? Yes it would. as much as i would like or we need? Of course not, only proper reparations could ever do that(with cash payments for yall that say anything otherwise..).

And lets test my theory.

The basic policies we know from bernie off top:
Medicare for All:

Key Facts about the Uninsured Population
Among people of color, Blacks experienced the largest increase in the uninsured rate by 0.33 percentage points (to 11.5%) in 2018....

How many people are uninsured?
For the second year in a row, the number of uninsured increased. In 2018, 27.9 million nonelderly individuals were uninsured, an increase of nearly 500,000 from 2017. Since 2016 when the number of uninsured reached historic lows, the number of people who lack health insurance coverage has grown by 1.2 million. Despite these recent increases, the uninsured rate remains substantially lower than it was in 2010, when the first ACA provisions went into effect and prior to the full implementation of Medicaid expansion and the establishment of Health Insurance Marketplaces. Data show substantial gains in public and private insurance coverage and historic decreases in the number of uninsured people under the ACA, with nearly 20 million gaining coverage.
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Who are the uninsured?
Most uninsured people are in low-income families and have at least one worker in the family. Reflecting the more limited availability of public coverage in some states, adults are more likely to be uninsured than children. People of color are at higher risk of being uninsured than non-Hispanic Whites.
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Why are people uninsured?
Even under the ACA, many uninsured people cite the high cost of insurance as the main reason they lack coverage. In 2018, 45% of uninsured adults said that they remained uninsured because the cost of coverage was too high. Many people do not have access to coverage through a job, and some people, particularly poor adults in states that did not expand Medicaid, remain ineligible for financial assistance for coverage. Some people who are eligible for financial assistance under the ACA may not know they can get help, while others have income above the cutoff for financial assistance. Additionally, undocumented immigrants are ineligible for Medicaid or Marketplace coverage.
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How does not having coverage affect health care access?
People without insurance coverage have worse access to care than people who are insured. One in five uninsured adults in 2018 went without needed medical care due to cost. Studies repeatedly demonstrate that uninsured people are less likely than those with insurance to receive preventive care and services for major health conditions and chronic diseases.
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What are the financial implications of being uninsured?
The uninsured often face unaffordable medical bills when they do seek care. In 2018, uninsured nonelderly adults were over twice as likely as their insured counterparts to have had problems paying medical bills in the past 12 months. These bills can quickly translate into medical debt since most of the uninsured have low or moderate incomes and have little, if any, savings.

Changes in Health Coverage by Race and Ethnicity since the ACA, 2010-2018

The coverage gains under the ACA reduced percentage point differences in uninsured rates between some groups of color and Whites, but disparities persist. As of 2018, most groups of color remained more likely to be uninsured compared to Whites. Moreover, despite the larger coverage increases for groups of color, the relative risk of being uninsured compared to Whites did not improve for some groups. For example, Blacks remained 1.5 times more likely to be uninsured than Whites from 2010 to 2018, and the Hispanic uninsured rate remained over 2.5 times higher than the rate for Whites.

Opportunities remain to narrow disparities in coverage by enrolling eligible people in Medicaid or Marketplace coverage, but eligibility varies by racial and ethnic group. Eligibility for ACA coverage among the remaining uninsured varies across racial and ethnic groups (Figure 2). For example, uninsured Blacks are more likely than Whites to fall in the coverage gap in states that have not expanded Medicaid, and uninsured Hispanics and Asians are less likely than Whites to be eligible for financial assistance with coverage, in part, reflecting higher shares of noncitizens who face immigrant eligibility restrictions among these groups compared to Whites.

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Criminal Justice Reform:

Remember:
Mass Incarceration: The Whole Pie 2019
It's no surprise that people of color — who face much greater rates of poverty — are dramatically overrepresented in the nation's prisons and jails. These racial disparities are particularly stark for Black Americans, who make up 40% of the incarcerated population despite representing only 13% of U.S residents.

HuffPost is now a part of Verizon Media

“We have a system that imprisons and destroys the lives of millions of people,” Sanders told The Associated Press before the planned released of his proposal Sunday. “It’s racist in disproportionately affecting the African American and Latino communities, and it’s a system that needs fundamental change.”

Sanders was promoting the plan during a weekend of campaigning in South Carolina, where the majority of the Democratic electorate is African American. The Vermont senator, who won the support of some younger black Democrats during the 2016 primary, has stepped up his references to racial disparities, particularly during stops in the South and urban areas.

As president, Sanders said he would abolish mandatory minimum sentencing and reinstate a federal parole system, end the “three strikes law” and expand the use of alternative sentencing, including community supervision and halfway houses. The goal is to reduce the prison population by one-half.

“A very significant number of people who are behind bars today are dealing with one form or another of illness,” Sanders said. “These should be treated as health issues, not from a criminal perspective.”

According to the National Alliance on Mental Illness , 2 million people with mental illness are booked into jails annually.


Taking aim at what his proposal calls “for-profit prison profiteering,” Sanders would ban private prisons, make prison phone calls and other inmate communications free, and audit prison commissaries for price gouging and fees.

The plan would legalize marijuana and expunge previous marijuana convictions, and end a cash bail system that Sanders says keeps hundreds of thousands who have not been convicted of a crime languishing in jail because they cannot afford bail.


“Can you believe that, in the year 2019, 400,000 people are in jail awaiting a trial because they are poor?” Sanders said. “That is a moral outrage, it is a legal outrage.”

According to the Prison Policy Initiative , more than 460,000 people are being held in local jails around the country while they await trial, with a median bail amount of $10,000 for felony offenses.

^^use that same above 40% ration on every stat you see and that represents black people. .40 x 400,000 people awaiting trial... .40 x 460,000 people are in local jails with a median bail amt of $10k.

every last black person knows a black person that has done time or at minimum has been arrested for weed possession. that would no longer happen. and the records of those previously arrested for those violations Nation wide would be wiped clean.

overall sanders is trying to make a criminal justice system that works better for everyone and that isnt racist and is a more fair system and leaning towards more treatment, jobs programs, education over throwing you in jail for drug related offenses period. not just weed.

look at this graph.
Federal Marijuana offenders by race (2012) by Jonathan Cooper - Infogram
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Student Loan Forgiveness

New Federal Data Show a Student Loan Crisis for African American Borrowers - Center for American Progress

The data show that 12 years after entering college, the typical African American* student who started in the 2003-04 school year and took on debt for their undergraduate education owed more on their federal student loans than they originally borrowed. This holds true even for students who finished a bachelor’s degree at a public institution. One reason they might not be paying down their loans? Nearly half of African American borrowers defaulted, including 75 percent of those who dropped out of for-profit colleges.

These results show that the U.S. Department of Education cannot ignore the interaction of race and student loans. Traditionally, the agency has not collected any data on the race of borrowers, except in irregular sample surveys conducted by its quasi-independent statistical arm. Unfortunately, not collecting this information has allowed for the disparate outcomes by race to go unnoticed.

Seeing even African American students who earned a bachelor’s degree struggle also reinforces that we cannot pretend the federal student loan program exists in a vacuum. The median African American household has just $1,700 in accumulated wealth. Racial discrimination in hiring has not improved over the past quarter century. Perhaps it’s too much to expect student loans and postsecondary education to solve these structural problems, but sending African American students into an inequitable adulthood with large debts from college can put them even further behind than they already start.....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ack-most-by-student-loan-debt-heres-solution/

No group is held back more by student loan debt than African Americans, who come out of college with an average loan balance of more than $34,000,

To make a long story short. Bernie would forgive all of those student loans.

Bernie's plan to raise minimum wage to $15.00 per hour nationally.

African American Workers' Productivity Steadily Increasing, While Wages Remain Stagnant - Black Enterprise

Despite these higher levels of productivity, there is still a significant pay gap between black workers and white workers, along with a dire situation of nearly 60% of black workers in the U.S. being paid less than $15 per hour, according to The National Employment Law Project. The job titles that most of these black workers have are largely:

• Food preparation workers (fast food industry)
• Retail salespersons
• Laborers, freight, stock, and material movers
• Janitors and cleaners
• Nursing assistants
• Personal care aides

The Economic Policy Institute created an interactive map that breaks down, by state, the number of African Americans making less than $10 to $15 per hour. For example, in Mississippi, close to 70% of African American workers make $15 per hour or less.

I can go on and on but you get the point. These are bernie's plans. They would surely help black people as a community. I would like to add, for those black people that are not in jail, and do not make minimum wage, or have decent healthcare, and paid off their student loans years ago. what does all this broke black stuff do for them? well its simple. odds are one of these people is a family member/friend of yours. these family/friends could stop asking you for help and you could stop being the bank for quite a few black people that are broke due to racist policies. its like a black pro athlete. he has to house and feed his parents, his brothers, sisters, cousins, and some of his homies. why? because for the most part black people aint got it like that (on average.)

 

[rapbeats]

What laws has Bernie Sanders passed in the last 40 years to benefit black folks.

What legislation has he gotten out of committee and on to the floor?

I'm sorry, I understand that y'all like him, but it has nothing to do with his black agenda.

how many black people work at walmart and amazon? how many of those people were making below $15.00 before bernie got them that raise?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...owners-unless-they-pay-their-workers-an-hour/

Amazon Just Raised Its Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour. Thank Bernie Sanders (and Maybe Tucker Carlson).
It looks like Bernie Sanders just helped a few hundred thousand Amazon workers get a raise. Under increasing political pressure over its pay practices, Jeff Bezos’ e-commerce behemoth announced Tuesday that it would increase its companywide minimum wage to $15 an hour starting this year.

How many politicians on that stage has made that kind of immediate impact on that many lives? I'll wait.

If you want to know why i posted these. its because it is a direct correlation of how bernie has said out of his own mouth, how he would go about getting his legislation passed. It is a proven tactic. and he could pull this off on such a grand stage only after he became popular. how much more popular would he be if he was the actual president? use your heads.

 

[rapbeats]

It's not just older black folks. It's black voters in general.

I don't know if it's the platform, the messaging, or the messenger, but these are abysmal numbers.

it is older black voters for the most part. because older black voters vote in primaries more so than younger black voters.
its not the messaging. its older black voters only getting their information from MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS. basic mainstream media outlets. Thats it. if thats who you are listening to all day, when bernie is talked about, its 99.9% negative. you can't get an in with a crowd thats hooked to the system like that. There were black people talking reckless about voting for hilary over a blackman(half black) in obama when they were running all due to those same media outlets telling them to vote for hillary instead of him. That was THEE only time black folks ever broke rank. sanders is a white guy that has NO ties to obama nor bill clinton(first black president..as they say).
This is why the bad showing with black voters. They only chose joe because joe = obama in their minds.

Bernie Sanders is three times more popular than Joe Biden among young black voters, poll shows

BERNIE SANDERS IS THREE TIMES MORE POPULAR THAN JOE BIDEN AMONG YOUNG BLACK VOTERS, POLL SHOWS