Jimmy Rollins traded to the Dodgers

[Jerz-2]

Countdown is in place for a b*stardo deal

this is prolly going down tonight

Any other scuttlebutt y'all hearing?

Winter baseball talks seem dead in Atlanta, I'm missing out on shyt.

 

[yseJ]

This logic is ridiculous

1) This isn't even true. The Giants had quiet a few players that WAR loves. So, that's wrong.
2) You evaluate players based off their production not championships. This isn't a sport where one man can dominate a single game like a great NBA player or QB in Football. The best singular player doesn't make his team win, but he can help. And ignoring it and saying "Homers, Defense and Walking" doesn't matter is absurd. If you just bought a team of the highest batting averages and ignored everything else, your team would not be good.
3) Eye test lie. Nobody watches enough games to properly evaluate any player not on their favorite teams.

this is how I feel. WAR is a good metric. you just have to realize its just another metric.
but Id trust WAR over batting average that is usually very luck-dependent. without power or obp numbers factoring, BA doesnt tell you much tbh

barry bonds has a career BA lower than ichiro, pedroia, votto and joe mauer...does that mean barry bonds is an inferior player ? of course it doesnt

 

[yseJ]

on topic Im a rollins fan, too bad Ill have to see him in blue and white for a year.

 

[trollol]

we got Zack Lee

lol

phils are gonna be asschecks for years

 

[Regular_P]

This logic is ridiculous

1) This isn't even true. The Giants had quiet a few players that WAR loves. So, that's wrong.
2) You evaluate players based off their production not championships. This isn't a sport where one man can dominate a single game like a great NBA player or QB in Football. The best singular player doesn't make his team win, but he can help. And ignoring it and saying "Homers, Defense and Walking" doesn't matter is absurd. If you just bought a team of the highest batting averages and ignored everything else, your team would not be good.
3) Eye test lie. Nobody watches enough games to properly evaluate any player not on their favorite teams.

So by watching Mike Trout and Andrew McCutchen, I can't tell whether they are great players? I need to crunch numbers before I can come to that conclusion? Got it.

Jhonny Peralta had the best WAR among MLB shortstops and his dWAR was the highest of his career in 2014. I watched him for four years in Detroit. Great hands and next to no range, yet somehow the numbers say otherwise. It's a flawed statistic.

 

[yseJ]

So by watching Mike Trout and Andrew McCutchen, I can't tell whether they are great players? I need to crunch numbers before I can come to that conclusion? Got it.

Jhonny Peralta had the best WAR among MLB shortstops and his dWAR was the highest of his career in 2014. I watched him for four years in Detroit. Great hands and next to no range, yet somehow the numbers say otherwise. It's a flawed statistic.

jhonny peraltas dwar last year is almost surely an aberration

 

[god shamgod]

Damn I guess you gotta be in a Coli circles to get threads poppin smh

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/jimm...e-dodgers-philly-will-miss-you-j-roll.274654/

this thread was made an hour before yours stop cryin

 

[#StarkSet]

marlins got a steal


dodgers did save money by getting rid of that bum haren tho

 

[Regular_P]

jhonny peraltas dwar last year is almost surely an aberration

Proving my point it's a flawed measurement.

 

[yseJ]

Proving my point it's a flawed measurement.

no single metric is a flawless measurement, so I dont see your point.
you seem to have a random beef with WAR when things like batting average and RBIs are very flawed as well

 

[FreshAIG]

Proving my point it's a flawed measurement.

nikka every single stat is flawed and varies from year to year. There's no flawless metric or stat but some do a better job of being predictive of future performance

BA alone basically tells you nothing.

 

[Regular_P]

no single metric is a flawless measurement, so I dont see your point.
you seem to have a random beef with WAR when things like batting average and RBIs are very flawed as well

Everything is flawed, but WAR is weighted too heavily when people make arguments about a player's worth.

 

[yseJ]

Everything is flawed, but WAR is weighted too heavily when people make arguments about a player's worth.

maybe defensive war is, but offensive war stems directly from offensive stats, so I dont see difference between weighing offensive war heavily or weighing average or rbis or runs heavily

 

[Rocket Scientist]

 

[Ku$h Parker]

Lil Dee is gone now