Job-seeker commits suicide after 200 rejections

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I've taken many a class in neuro cognitive science. Mental disorders are RARELY an excuse for not succeeding.


You not understanding me. I'm not saying that mental disorders are the reason this woman didn't succeed. I'm saying if she probably had a normal brain.... she probably wouldn't come to the conclusion that she had/should kill herself because she couldn't find work. Or at least not acted on it.
 

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i find that hard to believe :usure:

You don't think there are people who are heavily depressed or bipolar or mildly schizophrenic who have succeeded? lol Some of our greatest minds and artist have had considerable illnesses

You not understanding me. I'm not saying that mental disorders are the reason this woman didn't succeed. I'm saying if she probably had a normal brain.... she probably wouldn't come to the conclusion that she had/should kill herself because she couldn't find work. Or at least not acted on it.

What you don't get is there isn't a such thing as a "normal" brain. What this girl needed was a better family and group of friends and probably to be raised better when she was a child.
 

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She needed to join the Coli. Get in the Higher Learning section and get career advice.
I'm sure plenty of Coli members would be willing to provide free career advice, like me. :shaq:
 

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You don't think there are people who are heavily depressed or bipolar or mildly schizophrenic who have succeeded? lol Some of our greatest minds and artist have had considerable illnesses



What you don't get is there isn't a such thing as a "normal" brain. What this girl needed was a better family and group of friends and probably to be raised better when she was a child.
None of that can be blamed on her though. :yeshrug:
 
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Real talk being unemployed and jobless will do a number on you though.

-People with jobs look down on you even though your trying...they think you're not trying or you're lazy and hate you and will eventually see you as a burden...
-The rest of the world looks at you like an invalid...
-If you're a man, you can forget about going out, especially going on dates with women (what woman wants to be with a broke, jobless man anyways?)
-Trying to figure out what to do for the day after waking up (when I was unemployed I skated alot)
-It kills your self-esteem and confidence (eventually you're just going to think no one wants to hire you...which in turn makes you think no one values you and even makes you question your own worth to society at large...and that goes back to point 3)
-You have no freedom (no income= no food, no clothes, no fun stuff, no objects of want, etc.)
-It will stress and frustrate you physically, mental, sexually and can lead to severe depression...

I've been there and done that...it sucks. Atleast in NY, I've had five jobs since I moved here last year. I will say that about this city, people are willing to give others a chance because there's always a need for new blood anywhere to keep things moving. When I lived in Pittsburgh, simply due to being black, male, and in a city with a stagnant economy and no jobs I was unemployed for years. It was horrible. It was boring. It was nightmarish. Did I have moments where I thought about committing that? Yes. Did I actually go through with it? No.

I'm not even trying to be on that "my struggle is greater than yours" tip cause struggle is struggle and one doesn't know what is really going through anybody's mind. And there are people out there struggling more than me, so my struggle in retrospect seems nil. But it's not worth losing my life over because tomorrow is another day and another chance to make a difference. Suicide doesn't help that because it will just completely obliterate any chance of making things better. She might of had 200 interviews/rejections..but shieet....201 could of been that golden opportunity. And now she'll never find out cause she's dead.

I just think some people don't understand how that rejection and failure can damage someone psychologically like that. Especially in this society.
 

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That's one least competition for other job seekers to worry about:skip:
 

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You don't think there are people who are heavily depressed or bipolar or mildly schizophrenic who have succeeded? lol Some of our greatest minds and artist have had considerable illnesses



What you don't get is there isn't a such thing as a "normal" brain. What this girl needed was a better family and group of friends and probably to be raised better when she was a child.

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By normal I of course meant average or typical brain. Also, the bolded is an archaic way of thinking. Depression doesn't care how many hugs your father gave you as a child. Rough childhoods can make it worse true, but it isn't mutually inclusive.
 

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By normal I of course meant average or typical brain. Also, the bolded is an archaic way of thinking. Depression doesn't care how many hugs your father gave you as a child. Rough childhoods can make it worse true, but it isn't mutually inclusive.

Dude, the brain looks different when you think about "Oprah" as opposed to "wooden chair." It's not a constant state. You don't exhibit any emotion or mood unless 24/7 unless you institutionally ill. Learn what you're looking at before you post it.

Depression isn't Major Depression. Also, there's plenty of literature in Personality psych that says Depression stems from "modes of thinking" and not just some innate, biological deficit.

Explanation
What it means
Internal or External

Me or not me
Internal: "It's my fault or responsibility"
External: " It's someone else's fault, bad luck or whatever."
Global or Specific
Everything or 'Just this
'
Global
: "My whole life is ruined"
Specific: "That will be bad for that part of my life."
Stable or Unstable
Forever, or just for now
Stable: "This will last for ever."
Unstable: "Things will change over time"


You control how you think. Brain activity isn't an antecedent to thought, they're reciprocal.
 
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Dude, the brain looks different when you think about "Oprah" as opposed to "wooden chair." It's not a constant state. You don't exhibit any emotion or mood unless 24/7 unless you institutionally ill. Learn what you're looking at before you post it.

Depression isn't Major Depression. Also, there's plenty of literature in Personality psych that says Depression stems from "modes of thinking" and not just some innate, biological deficit.

Explanation
What it means
Internal or External

Me or not me
Internal: "It's my fault or responsibility"
External: " It's someone else's fault, bad luck or whatever."
Global or Specific
Everything or 'Just this
'
Global
: "My whole life is ruined"
Specific: "That will be bad for that part of my life."
Stable or Unstable
Forever, or just for now
Stable: "This will last for ever."
Unstable: "Things will change over time"


You control how you think. Brain activity isn't an antecedent to thought, they're reciprocal.


I know what I'm looking at. The image on the left shows decreased brain activity as compared to the image on the right. This is from the institute that posted the study.


A PET scan can compare brain activity during periods of depression (left) with normal brain activity (right). An increase of blue and green colors, along with decreased white and yellow areas, shows decreased brain activity due to depression.

As far as depression vs. major depression, I've been referring to Major Depression. I thought it was obvious but I apologize for the confusion anyway. I'm aware that depression can occur from modes of thinking, but as I clarified I'm talking about major depression.
 

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I know what I'm looking at. The image on the left shows decreased brain activity as compared to the image on the right. This is from the institute that posted the study.




As far as depression vs. major depression, I've been referring to Major Depression. I thought it was obvious but I apologize for the confusion anyway. I'm aware that depression can occur from modes of thinking, but as I clarified I'm talking about major depression.

You're really not making any point then. "Periods" of depression can be a day a week or a indefinite, showing a PET scan isn't exactly the best way to prove your case that people are disposition at birth to be depressed.

If anything, the way you think leads to depression. It's no different than a normal person getting addicted to heroin. Will their brain activity be different after they become junkies? Of course, but did they have full volition and awareness prior to their decision? Of course.
 

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You're really not making any point then. "Periods" of depression can be a day a week or a indefinite, showing a PET scan isn't exactly the best way to prove your case that people are disposition at birth to be depressed.

If anything, the way you think leads to depression. It's no different than a normal person getting addicted to heroin. Will their brain activity be different after they become junkies? Of course, but did they have full volition and awareness prior to their decision? Of course.


My point was that people with biological depression are like that most of the time through no fault of their own.



it's no different than a normal person getting addicted to heroin. Will their brain activity be different after they become junkies? Of course, but did they have full volition and awareness prior to their decision?


I don't see how a mental disease is comparable to getting hooked on heroin. What about OCD? What about ADHD? What decision did the people with these diseases make to have these issues? Biological Depression is no different. Why do you think rich White people kill themselves even though they have it all?
 
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