Joe Budden & Jay Electronica go back & forth on Twitter
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lets not be delusional now
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You had to be there at the time
Absolutely love it , it's more like a journey..a project of traveling, each song/track is describing a moment and thought!
Jay elec is a narrator..jay z is the rapper rapper.
That Cuban in you makes you an outsider
Budden has always been a fierce emcee and birthed A LOT of styles.
His problem is that he is a hater and lacks game. He expects things to go a certain way because "that's how it should be" or because "it wouldn't be fair if it doesn't" but that's not how this world works (that's why i say he lacks game). He then goes on to hate on people who have game and manage to navigate through the game a different way. He has a certain entitlement about the game. Or maybe he's just playing it up to create content (playing the game his own way).
The truth is, anyone is free to do whatever they want, Jay Elec can do whatever album he has the means to do, fans can love or hate it (including joe). but being jealous of Jay Elec for bypassing the usual steps of the system is corny. I actually agree that Jay Elec is "FAR down on the lists" of emcees mainly because he hasn't put out enough work. I definitely agree that fans put him higher on the lists and part of it is that aura of mystique he maintains (similar to 3000). but who cares though. that's not Jay's fault. that's the fans. not everyone's main purpose in life is to be high on these lists. some people are in it for the money, some people are in it for the message, some people are in it for the glory, some for the art. most people are in it for ALL of the above in different proportions. I think Budden was expecting a lyrical slaughter, a display of skills that would at least attempt to raise the bar lyrically. Instead we got a borderline concept album featuring Jay (which seems like a cheat code). and the initial praise made it seem like it's not fair because not everyone is afforded the luxury of coming out with the "message" album on their first offering.My thing is why be mad at Jay for that? you could dislike it, you could even call it trash for technical reasons. I think it goes beyond that for Joe. It's either personal or it's envy of the freedom to do whatever the fukk he wants to do.
His problem is that he is a hater and lacks game. He expects things to go a certain way because "that's how it should be" or because "it wouldn't be fair if it doesn't" but that's not how this world works (that's why i say he lacks game). He then goes on to hate on people who have game and manage to navigate through the game a different way. He has a certain entitlement about the game. Or maybe he's just playing it up to create content (playing the game his own way).
The truth is, anyone is free to do whatever they want, Jay Elec can do whatever album he has the means to do, fans can love or hate it (including joe). but being jealous of Jay Elec for bypassing the usual steps of the system is corny. I actually agree that Jay Elec is "FAR down on the lists" of emcees mainly because he hasn't put out enough work. I definitely agree that fans put him higher on the lists and part of it is that aura of mystique he maintains (similar to 3000). but who cares though. that's not Jay's fault. that's the fans. not everyone's main purpose in life is to be high on these lists. some people are in it for the money, some people are in it for the message, some people are in it for the glory, some for the art. most people are in it for ALL of the above in different proportions. I think Budden was expecting a lyrical slaughter, a display of skills that would at least attempt to raise the bar lyrically. Instead we got a borderline concept album featuring Jay (which seems like a cheat code). and the initial praise made it seem like it's not fair because not everyone is afforded the luxury of coming out with the "message" album on their first offering.My thing is why be mad at Jay for that? you could dislike it, you could even call it trash for technical reasons. I think it goes beyond that for Joe. It's either personal or it's envy of the freedom to do whatever the fukk he wants to do.
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The Joe budden shyt sounds personal
It probably is on some level
And every dude y'all said was better than me then is old news
Modern-day present fans are fickle, it's depressin'
One single, one album, y'all gon' say he with the legends
The veterans be pissed when we pay mind to they selections
And the newbies get gassed every time they Jay Elect them
It’s nikkas with more money and less respect
To me that tomfoolery's dead
Bottom line real nikkas know what’s more important
And dollars ain’t in attendance when that eulogy said
So let’s get it clear first 'fore you compare 'em to me
Wait a couple years, make sure they don’t disappear first
It’ll save us some confusion, everything ain’t a classic
And everybody ain’t dope, some of that is an illusion
The funny thing about a label push
You never know, shyt could go either way
Go ahead and run along side it, end up on the wrong side of it