RennisDeynolds
I am untethered and my rage knows no bounds!
They are now "addicted" to drama instead of pills and alcohol respectively. I don't fukk with slaughterhouse and these flabbies anyway but this shyt embarrassing
Joe Budden tells Joell Ortiz “SUCK MY DIKK” on IG with Royce Da 59 who grins and stays quite
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They are now "addicted" to drama instead of pills and alcohol respectively. I don't fukk with slaughterhouse and these flabbies anyway but this shyt embarrassing
These dudes on here keep making that same exact post all across this thread even though we keep telling them what actually happened
I dont understand it
Joe asked for information then actively went out of his way to avoid said information
T'Challa Trillmonger
All Star
yea i get it and why joe wouldn't like the album, i can see it from royce & joe's perspective
but i was referring to him lil bro-ing Joell sayin he is bigger than all this, etc ... even if its true, its not necessary to be said if you are trying to de-escalate tension with your "brother"
as men we all know theres ways to say things without takin shots at each others pride and ego
BK The Great
Veteran
Joe confirmed he would make music again
I think even moreso, he just doesn't want to work with those guys ever again for any amount of money, but he will never come out and just say that. Every other excuse while reasonable and perhaps a factor, is an added on bonus. I doubt Crook is hurting for money, but he just loves to rap. Joell seems happy in his life...he just loves to rap.
well said
He's just BSing them like he's been doing at least the entire COVID
Great point!!
yeah i agree with this somewhat but dude was begging to support and promote the album also because he knows the reach Joe has now and what that’ll do financially
gaslight king
Sounds like he said the deal included ownership on the labels behalf.
His argument is...why in the fukk would 'we' be taking album advances for x amount of albums and giving up any kinda ownership of the brand at this point in our careers?
Now he could be lying...but if that's the case, I wouldn't be that eager about responding to it it either. Just like I wouldn't be eager to let Joe fund the project if I was Crooked, but if that's how it went down then I comnpletely understand, esescially since they've already done 'bad buisness' up to this point.
Would anybody here advise a young rapper with his own platofrm to sign a fukking record deal instead of going indy? Especially if it includes ownership of his work? Anybody saying yes should not be giving advice to music artists.
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Joey's reach ain't that great. His L&HH fans don't even know his music. His podcast audience is mostly different than his music audience. Hell, he pretty much has the same fanbase as Royce & Joell. He said some great things about the HARD album, and people on here that listen to his podcast still didn't know they dropped an album.
I don't think Joell was really asking for support for the album. He just can't debate with lawyer a$$ Joe, so that's the part that stands out. He jumped on the Live because they were calling them liars and such. If not for that, he wouldn't have cared. Same with Crook. Their stance is moreso FOH with all of that saying we're saying the group is done. Y'all been said it.
Ownership is NOT the end-all. Profitability is, which is why most people cash out. Whatever you own is only as valuable as what others see it for based on profitability. Any money they'd get from a label is more than they'd ever see if they put it out indie. For even more hypocrisy from Joe, let's say Joe was allowed to finance the project. So, he'd put the money upfront, the artists would get their cut upfront, and then he'd see what he would recoup on the backend before they saw anything else. Wouldn't that STILL be doing a deal with a label? Essentially, he is the label in that regard. He would more than likely also want majority ownership, which contradicts everything he's saying.
The kicker is that Crook said he told Royce to ask Joe whatever he wants in the deal, and they'd put it in there.
Ineedmoney504
SOHH ICEY...WE EATIN
When was this said? In joes own words he said “when he(crooked) said it would retain some ownership” he tuned the deal out, and already said no without knowing anything else, cause the label should have no ownership. And crooked called him multiple times and joe ignored him.
where did any of them say crooked was hiding the details from them?
y’all dudes love to fall to joe double talk. All in all what he needed to do was call crooked back and tell him he not doing any deal where they don’t retain all ownership, instead he ducked him for months like a nikka do when he ghost a bytch.
it’s disrespectful coward behavior. In his own words, he didn’t have the heart to tell crooked no