Joe Budden tells Joell Ortiz “SUCK MY DIKK” on IG with Royce Da 59 who grins and stays quite

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i'm talking about if he was set on no deals but wanted to get it financed.
He was in love and hip hop, so I assume he was making enough money, and he admitted that he wanted to finance the group himself.
 

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I don't think Joe ever considered himself friends with Crook, but I think Crook thought him and Joe were friendly. I never got the impression they were close, but cool. Joe and Royce, Royce and Crooked and Crooked and Joell seemed to all be legit friends. Every other relationship between the 4 was more just business/cool-ish.

I do think Joell & Joe were close...at one point. In the beginning, they were the 2 that hung out the most. They did argue a lot though. That Move On argument was crazy...then Joe put the argument in the bars, basically taking a shot at Joe.

Honestly, I was shocked that Royce and Joe formed a group with everything that was going on between them during that time. It boggles the mind that they've become close...especially given their personalities.
 

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He was in love and hip hop, so I assume he was making enough money, and he admitted that he wanted to finance the group himself.

I think you misunderstood me. I know all that. But we know that the group wouldn't want that shyt, so what I was saying was if joe was serious enough, a concession from him financing it would to get it crowdfunded. I bet the group would be more willing to go that route than having joe finance it.
 
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Watching the full video

It's obvious to me that Joell lied about them turning the deal down

I think he basically just figured that Joe be on some bullshyt
( which is not bullshyt to Joe he just wants the business $$ to be right)
and Joell figured fukk it lets not spend time trying to get it right in the eyes of Joe we can cut him out and make money without him and since Royce said he wanted Joe included he figured that Royce was out too cause Joe is gonna drag this out and we not waiting on him

Sounds like all they really needed to do was get together and hash the shyt out before moving forward so everyone was clear on what was gonna happen and they didn't do that and in my opinion
That's not right they should be better than that.

I think this is great promotion for the album cause I wanna hear it now.

But Joel definitely did some shady shyt there and maybe he felt justified because Joe can be up & down

That's what it looks like to me
 

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I do think Joell & Joe were close...at one point. In the beginning, they were the 2 that hung out the most. They did argue a lot though. That Move On argument was crazy...then Joe put the argument in the bars, basically taking a shot at Joe.

Honestly, I was shocked that Royce and Joe formed a group with everything that was going on between them during that time. It boggles the mind that they've become close...especially given their personalities.
I would've thought so too initially, but Royce and Joe have very close personalities the more Royce has put himself out there.
 

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Watching the full video

It's obvious to me that Joell lied about them turning the deal down

I think he basically just figured that Joe be on some bullshyt
( which is not bullshyt to Joe he just wants the business $$ to be right)
and Joell figured fukk it lets not spend time trying to get it right in the eyes of Joe we can cut him out and make money without him and since Royce said he wanted Joe included he figured that Royce was out too cause Joe is gonna drag this out and we not waiting on him

Sounds like all they really needed to do was get together and hash the shyt out before moving forward so everyone was clear on what was gonna happen and they didn't do that and in my opinion
That's not right they should be better than that.

I think this is great promotion for the album cause I wanna hear it now.

But Joel definitely did some shady shyt there and maybe he felt justified because Joe can be up & down

That's what it looks like to me

I don’t think he lied. I think he and Crooked took Joe’s lack of communication as turning the deal down. Joe was apparently all in and was supposed to speak to Crooked I who never got the call. So Joell and Crooked took that as Joe turning the deal down.
 

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Watching the full video

It's obvious to me that Joell lied about them turning the deal down

I think he basically just figured that Joe be on some bullshyt
( which is not bullshyt to Joe he just wants the business $$ to be right)
and Joell figured fukk it lets not spend time trying to get it right in the eyes of Joe we can cut him out and make money without him and since Royce said he wanted Joe included he figured that Royce was out too cause Joe is gonna drag this out and we not waiting on him

Sounds like all they really needed to do was get together and hash the shyt out before moving forward so everyone was clear on what was gonna happen and they didn't do that and in my opinion
That's not right they should be better than that.

I think this is great promotion for the album cause I wanna hear it now.

But Joel definitely did some shady shyt there and maybe he felt justified because Joe can be up & down

That's what it looks like to me
They know that Joe was telling them no, without having to say it. He does so all the time. If that weren't the case, there'd be no reason for Royce to even put that out there about not wanting to do it without Joe. Crooked been fighting for years to get the release from Shady. They'd been reaching out to get things right.
 
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