Have no stake in whether he is ever a real candidate, but dismissing someone out of hand, for something said, possibly 8 years before they actually run is really absurd. It was a clumsy, kind of uninformed thing to say, dude is from MA, he doesn't know what the fukk he's talking about it. But, this is the kind of purity politics that will be really dangerous going into 2018 and 2020.
Joe Kennedy III: I don't want to decriminalize marijuana because its harder to search vehicles
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ORDER_66
I am The Wrench in all your plans....
Nah breh all these politicians get too many times to get forgiveness and pardons from us then turn around and screw us over...
We need to stop endorsing them off the bat let them PROVE themselves to us...with ACTIONS... I've learned my lesson when it came to politics and how they treat us after they get our vote... You want my vote you gotta earn it... Not just give me lip service...
Right, but the danger is this thinking on the left will lead to the right's continued empowerment....which we should all try to prevent, at almost any cost.
We have someone in office who is talking about executing drug dealers, and we have a misinformed, foolish statement from a second year Rep, who is a privileged blue blood.
Again, I don't even have the slightest interest in whether he runs or not, I just want people to think clearly when it comes to this stuff.
The Republicans will wash the Dems again, if this keeps happening. Like saying Kamala Harris is corrupt. That kind of thing.
We have someone in office who is talking about executing drug dealers, and we have a misinformed, foolish statement from a second year Rep, who is a privileged blue blood.
Again, I don't even have the slightest interest in whether he runs or not, I just want people to think clearly when it comes to this stuff.
The Republicans will wash the Dems again, if this keeps happening. Like saying Kamala Harris is corrupt. That kind of thing.
The old adage, Dems fall in Love, Repubs fall in line. I see it changing a little bit, but as a liberal, in my personal situation, there are a few actual voting issues I care about, and I NEED my candidate to fully support them, marijuana legalization and crime sentencing reform are 2 of those issues. I realize I might be a little hypocritical, because I get pretty angry at these folks that won’t budge on anybody but the “perfect” candidate, causing more division in the party. Like I said, hopefully he can change his views with better information and more empathy, which comes with maturity.
Piff Perkins
Veteran
What a weird stance to take when you have political immortality as a Kennedy. Law and order dems often go that route in an attempt to stave off moderate democrat or republican challengers...but Kennedy has no such fear. He's in a deeply liberal state, he's going to become the next senate of Mass without any struggle, and if he wants to run for president he can do so in 10 years or so. In ten years, do you think the country will be MORE liberal about pot or LESS liberal? The answer is obvious: more. It's already a winning issue, why take this stance lol?
because that's his genuine beliefs (props for honesty i guess). he's a former state prosecutor and everything is viewed through that lens. "oh one of the benefits of a cop getting to lie and say he smelled weed is that they can search the car and find shyt that helps me as a prosecutor." he's a fukkboy.
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fukk that "but he's a liberal tiebreaker!!" agent
i agree with this position with regards to conservative states and districts, but not massachusetts. we deserve a better kind of democrat in deep blue (nationally at least) states. i'm not against conservadems running in places trump won by 20 points because i see them as a means to get 70% of what you want.
ill
Superstar
Mass is losing its ultra liberal title. This state is reverting to more conservatism. Has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with overbearing and overreaching Democrats from MA.
this. i dont give a fukk if it's not "falling in line", im not gonna vote for someone like this. i consider this a slap in the face from a democrat
its so blatantly WRONG, morally and practically, that he must have some ulterior motive in the form of being a police lover or being in big pharma's pockets
AZBeauty
Stop lyin' nicca.
I'm not a single issue voter so I was interested in his stance on other issues before saying bush him. Him being a former DA, pretty much explains his feelings on this. Ultimately, legalization should be the future for marijuana. He better not die on this hill.
However, I google to find statements on police brutality, being very specific on my search terms. I got to the 3rd page and didnt see anything outside of the response to the SOTU. I care more about that than his non support of weed legalization. Not a good look for young Kennedy.
However, I google to find statements on police brutality, being very specific on my search terms. I got to the 3rd page and didnt see anything outside of the response to the SOTU. I care more about that than his non support of weed legalization. Not a good look for young Kennedy.
Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
So this Chappaquiddikk movie coming out right now...
I understand this stance after one candidate is chosen after a primary process and vetting within the party takes place.Does this align with Nap's "stop looking for a perfect savior" politician stance?
Anyone pushing this before that time is just mindlessly repeating a mantra they've learned. Primary processes and even before then is the time to seriously vet who will be the eventual nominee and the time to be nitpicky to get as close to the perfect candidate matching your beliefs as possible. Essentially, in this case you have options. You don't have to support a particular candidate when there are many options.
My issue with this stance is that its tangential to what someone else mentioned in "police brutality". It allows too much leeway in police action to operate outside of the law. Simply saying "you THOUGHT you smelled weed" is used an excuse to violate people's rights. So to me, its alarming and important, that out of all the reasons to be against illegal weed, he picks this one. It tells me as far as protecting the rights of people does not trump the "means" of what he views as a way to fight crime.