Since you're taking the effort to reply, i'll indulge you...then i'm done.
literally laughed out loud when I read this.
Because its true.
The love of the game is what carries you through your development until you're ready to go pro.
its really that simple.
I care about athletes getting rewarded for what they do for the university.
They get rewarded by going to a school for free and having all their needs met.
Clearly water polo isn't bringing in the money that football is, so I wouldn't expect the goalie of the water polo team to deserve the same kind of reimbursement the QB of the football team does.
Yet they clearly get the same support financially.
On one hand this is "amateur sports", and on the other hand Texas A&M is a "sports franchise"
Just because it has a successful and popular brand doesn't change the fact its a team of amateurs with the infrastructure that allows them to build the reputation of a quality program over time.
Sports franchises are big business, for the sole purpose of making money. That's not amateur sports. You can't have it both ways. So which is it?
College sports don't make more money than pro-sports...and athletes aren't rewarded for their efforts financially. They are rewarded with the pride of winning, the ability to represent their schools, and access to world-class educational opportunities (mind you that people round the world would die to come to even big state schools).
Popularity doesn't need to be rewarded, production needs to be rewarded. Results need to be rewarded.
Which is why the school gets the financial benefit to reinvest in the continued success of turning high school amateurs into professional level athletes.
Everyone gets rewarded for their results in this "amateur sport" except the athlete.
you mean the investment of resrouces into their development and the ability to earn a free degree?
The chancellor/president makes six-seven figures to find the right athletic director run a profitable department (on the backs of the athletes), the AD makes six-seven figures to find the right head coach to bring in the right players to make the department money (on the backs of the players), and then the coach himself gets seven figures to go find talented players to do the work that makes everyone else millions of dollars, for free.
University presidents don't exist because of football presidents. Some of the highest paid university presidents don't even have successful sports teams. C'mon now. Don't be that naive.
Of course it matters. They're not all equal representatives because they're not both giving the same amount of production, and producing the same financial results.
They're equal representatives of the university.
The financial results are a result of popularity...which is a factor uncontrollable by the university. The public likes what it likes.
A great QB for a football team brings in hundreds of millions of dollars, and also makes that university more attractive to future quarterbacks who will come and make more millions for that university.
So?
High risks, high rewards.
A great cello player, once again, cannot even compare to this. They are both talented, but RESULTS MATTER.
Actually, it can. Great schools with great music or art programs (or engineering etc.) go on to recruit additional talent. Just because this didn't factor into your decision to go to a school doesn't mean it didn't affect others. In fact, your dismissiveness of this shows how myopic you're being.
How can you say they are getting all their financial needs taken care of when players admit they go to sleep hungry cause they can't afford food?
because its unknown why that student had no money. I don't know if he was reckless with his funds, didn't plan or flat out didn't get enough refund money. I also don't know if the university wasn't feeding its athletes through a separate program.
Its an non-contextual anecdote and I don't respect it.
When athletes are literally homeless and would get in trouble if someone so much as bought lunch for them?
Thats not happening.
It's great that NCAA has an exemption waiver you can apply for to help that homeless athlete out, but the fact that it even GETS to that point shows you how fukked up this whole system is to begin with.
So reform the scholarship system...but maintain the integrity of the SCHOLARSHIP.
Exactly, they are disposable pieces of meat.
Who made the decision to play the game and made an agreement to do so. I'm all for reform, but don't pretend that its nothing more than an agreement.
If they don't want to do all the extra work to make everyone else rich, the university will go find someone else to do it.
As the university should. Otherwise, they can apply to school like everyone else.
Really? So if you walk into Autzen Stadium and see 50,000 Mariota jerseys, you're going to tell me he isn't the face of that program?
His popularity doesn't change that he's one member of a team.
How? They already have every financial need taken care of. just like academic scholars.
The standards aren't the same. It's not that black and white. Nobody in that university is asked to do as much as a student athlete.
So don't be a student athlete
Its pretty simple.
How is it not relevant? YOU are the one who said they are high school athletes on a higher level. Now you're saying that's not relevant?
Because no one is selling HS jerseys and most places aren't selling college jerseys
AND
I said I don't support selling likenesses of college players.
But you do support other students, their coaches, their AD, chancellor, president, stadium workers, merchandise companies, apparel companies... basically everyone else, being compensated for the work that athlete does.
Seems legit.
Absolutely. Those are either employees of the university or are 3rd parties.
