John Wall Needs To Work On His Jumper ASAP

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He turned the shot down because he's a shook puss blooded nancy. You can't be out here scared to shoot. Ain't no clinic or basketball camp for being scared.

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He turned the shot down because he's a shook puss blooded nancy. You can't be out here scared to shoot. Ain't no clinic or basketball camp for being scared.

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No shyt he turned down the shot, and he made the right play by giving it to the better shooter who had the better look. If he shot that and missed it would've been "Dumbass fakkit been bricking it all game and decided to take a shot when he's been missing. What a dumbass."

Would've been a catch 22
 

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i know u not hating on a jumper with mkg as your avi
MKG ain't a fukkin PG :stopitslime::stopitslime::stopitslime:
No shyt he turned down the shot, and he made the right play by giving it to the better shooter who had the better look. If he shot that and missed it would've been "Dumbass fakkit been bricking it all game and decided to take a shot when he's been missing. What a dumbass."

Would've been a catch 22
Don't waste your entire team's movement 16+ seconds into your possession by running off of a screen to get open on the 3pt line, getting wide open, shyting yourself looking at the rim like a true freshmen, then look to start everything up all over again like everything is good. Dude is getting the max. Instead of finding ways to get buckets - ANY kind of buckets - this dude continually finds himself in a catch :trash:22.
 

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John Wall can't shoot and can hardly finish :russ:

He has no soft touch nor grace to score. Only way he's getting points is free throws, transition, or that wide open P&R jumper where the switch defender sags off so much basically daring him to shoot :heh:

He's not good brehs :pachaha:

As crazy as it sounds this shyt is true when you really think about it:ohhh:
 

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Why does it look like he fades away on all his jumpers?
 

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he has zero touch he one of my favs since he played for us at UK.But he needs to take a 1000 mid range jumpers a day.When he's not confident it makes his shot even worse.
 

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Why does it look like he fades away on all his jumpers?
he reverted to his bad habits.

He was shooting better last season and lost that fade. It came back this year.



I will say this though, the Wizards offense sucks and thats coaching..
 
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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
Usually this is the kind of shyt that will get someone in the gym and working on their game during the summer, remember Tony Parker couldn't shoot worth shyt then was taking thousands of shots a day during the summer. If Wall has any type of drive and work ethic he'll come back next season with an improved J.
 

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he reverted to his bad habits.

He was shooting better last season and lost that fade. It came back this year.



I will say this though, the Wizards offense sucks.
Bron had a similar tendency to always fade back on his jumpers, he still does it from time to time, but his shot improved

I think its something Wall will fix by next season and take another huge step and round into completed form in his 5th season
 

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Usually this is the kind of shyt that will get someone in the gym and working on their game during the summer, remember Tony Parker couldn't shoot worth shyt then was taking thousands of shots a day during the summer. If Wall has any type of drive and work ethic he'll come back next season with an improved J.

Well the thing is, Wall has improved considerably in his jumper from his rookie season.

He's shooting 37% from 16-23 feet which isn't bad.

He shot 35% from 3 point land which was a massive improvement.

He shoots 67% at the rim.

The problem is that his shot from 3-10 feet fell from 42% last year to 25% this year :snoop:

And as @mastermind said, its all about coaching. Wall's shot selection is just as a big hurdle to improving his J as anything.

34% of his shots are from 16-23 feet which is bad. Sure, he's shooting higher from there than he did in 2011, but the only guy on the roster who shoots that shot well is Gooden who hits it at a career 45% clip. Only 23% of Wall's come from 3 point land which is a place he has improved. And only 27% come at the rim where he is the most efficient. That is a problem. (this is from basketball reference).

Coaching is supposed to put players in position to succeed but this Wittman/Flip Saunders offense is all about the long two and Wall has been in this crap for 4 years. There has to be a change in offensive philosophy for him to truly take the next step.
 

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Well the thing is, Wall has improved considerably in his jumper from his rookie season.

He's shooting 37% from 16-23 feet which isn't bad.

He shot 35% from 3 point land which was a massive improvement.

He shoots 67% at the rim.

The problem is that his shot from 3-10 feet fell from 42% last year to 25% this year :snoop:

And as @mastermind said, its all about coaching. Wall's shot selection is just as a big hurdle to improving his J as anything.

34% of his shots are from 16-23 feet which is bad. Sure, he's shooting higher from there than he did in 2011, but the only guy on the roster who shoots that shot well is Gooden who hits it at a career 45% clip. Only 23% of Wall's come from 3 point land which is a place he has improved. And only 27% come at the rim where he is the most efficient. That is a problem. (this is from basketball reference).

Coaching is supposed to put players in position to succeed but this Wittman/Flip Saunders offense is all about the long two and Wall has been in this crap for 4 years. There has to be a change in offensive philosophy for him to truly take the next step.
I can see that Wittman just preaches, shoot with confidence and take the open shot. But it's clear that Wall even knows that's not going to work when he himself isn't confident in his shot right now... so the coach and players echoing the coach about just keeping to shoot when you're a streaky shooter yourself is just not a good idea

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There have been plenty of PGs that didn't have shooting as their greatest strength, but they still had a great impact on games, (Rondo, Kidd, for example)


Rose went through the same thing early on as well. Was pretty bad at the 3 ball, so he made a point to really improve his range (he then fell in love with it, but that's a different topic) so I know he can get better, but it's on him to become more consistent with his shot. He can get by fine during the regular season with his current skill set... but his jumper has to improve for him to truly be great... especially in the playoffs
 

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I can see that Wittman just preaches, shoot with confidence and take the open shot. But it's clear that Wall even knows that's not going to work when he himself isn't confident in his shot right now... so the coach and players echoing the coach about just keeping to shoot when you're a streaky shooter yourself is just not a good idea

:snoop:

There have been plenty of PGs that didn't have shooting as their greatest strength, but they still had a great impact on games, (Rondo, Kidd, for example)


Rose went through the same thing early on as well. Was pretty bad at the 3 ball, so he made a point to really improve his range (he then fell in love with it, but that's a different topic) so I know he can get better, but it's on him to become more consistent with his shot. He can get by fine during the regular season with his current skill set... but his jumper has to improve for him to truly be great... especially in the playoffs

Midrange jump shooting is whatever. If a defense is any good, they want you taking the 16-23 footers. Indiana and Chicago managed to bait Wall into taking it because Wall has become increasingly too reliant on that shot. They also slow the pace down to where he must make that shot because the spacing with the starting lineup won't get him in the paint as easily in the half court.

BUT

This is what pisses me off. Where is the kid who attacked with reckless abandon and changed games with his runs to the basket? George Hill is a decent defender but you can't tell me that Wall can't get by this dude and do something athletic against Hibbert in the middle of the paint. Watching these games, the top of the key to the restricted area has been open for him to drive and use a floater or drive and do a wrap around pass to Nene or drive and get FOULED.

He's overthinking but the coaching also has been for him to manage the game. Well, that's fine but he can manage the game by taking those shots in the paint instead of kicking out for more inefficient looks.

Nene at 16 feet is not an efficient look when you have daylight going to the rim.

To a lesser extent its what people were saying about LeBron last year in the Finals vs. San Antonio. They sagged off him and he was living and dying by the jumpshot until elimination was around in Game 6 and he just started to attack, attack, attack.

This whole postseason we haven't seen Wall just flat out attack the defense and put pressure on them aside from Game 4 & 5 vs. CHI and Game 1 vs. IND. Even the end of the regular season when they won all those games in a row he wasn't attacking.
 
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