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MJ doesn't have any solo albums as a teen.
Jon B says that Chris Brown is more talented than Michael Jackson
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UpAndComing
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I love them both, so I don't care
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I thought he was younger on those albums
K.O.N.Y
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Nah Breh this is just false
The “got to be there” album was like in every black household. Might as well be right next to pictures of Malcolm or mlk
And just getting with Quincy isn’t going to get u a off the wall or thriller Breh
Off the wall is more like destiny or triumph then it is like thriller or any other album mj had with Quincy. The talent was already there
Nah Breh this is just false
The “got to be there” album was like in every black household. Might as well be right next to pictures of Malcolm or mlk
And just getting with Quincy isn’t going to get u a off the wall or thriller Breh
Off the wall is more like destiny or triumph then it is like thriller or any other album mj had with Quincy. The talent was already there
I'm not diminishing Mike by mentioning Quincy, search my post in this thread and I think he clears CB
(my personal stance is that all Quincy did was bring out the best in Mike's natural talents, not create or carry him musically, hence why there's only one Michael Jackson).
I'm using Quincy as a point in time to scope teen Mike vs teen CB. Teen Mike is anything prior to Quincy.
Look I wasn't there in 72, but checking the numbers it doesn't compare. My wife and all her friends and sorority sisters, my sister and cousins and all their friends, that first CB album is stamped and in the lexicon. The shyt you talk about what your parents played around me type of music. I don't see any demographic that holds that first Mike album in that same regard anywhere. Wasn't nobody in any household making the choice to put that first Mike album on by the time the 90's got around let's stop the cap. That first CB album dropped 20 years ago and it's a gang of folks that can recite half the album word for word to this day
Plankton
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Dude, like someone already brought up, every Christmas when radio is playing Bing Crosby, Nat King Cole and The Drifters in the malls or supermarkets, you're going to automatically hear "Santa Claus Is Coming To Town" by The Jackson 5.
Mariah Carey redid "I'll Be There" on unplugged in the 90's and that song was super popular. You must've been born after Mariah did that song to not know that.
2000's
B5 the boy band on Bad Boy Records made "ALL I Do" as a single and video
2010's
Victoria Justice did a rendition of "I Want You Back" on Nickelodeon. Down to the dance moves and everything. This video has 22 Million views and was uploaded 7 years ago.
Dude, like someone already brought up, every Christmas when radio is playing Bing Crosby, Nat King Cole and The Drifters in the malls or supermarkets, you're going to automatically hear "Santa Claus Is Coming To Town" by The Jackson 5.
Mariah Carey redid "I'll Be There" on unplugged in the 90's and that song was super popular. You must've been born after Mariah did that song to not know that.
2000's
B5 the boy band on Bad Boy Records made "ALL I Do" as a single and video
2010's
Victoria Justice did a rendition of "I Want You Back" on Nickelodeon. Down to the dance moves and everything. This video has 22 Million views and was uploaded 7 years ago.
Teen Mike had 4 solo albums to go to, y'all by default go to his Jackson 5 albums (highly collaborative efforts) because his solo shyt wasn't hitting like I said. Especially not compared to teen era CB. Teen Chris Brown was a bigger hitmaker than Teen Mike was as a solo act. He could have stepped into those collaborations in the role of the lead singer and made all those tracks hits as well.
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Plankton
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That's not how it works. Either you count the default or you don't compare the two at all because 1) Chris Brown was never in a hit making group as a teen and 2) Chris Brown wasn't doing hit making popular music as a pre teen for the comparisons to properly match.
If The Jackson 5 don't count then don't compare Chris Brown to MJ who made his bones in a group. Chris Brown doesn't have a group to separate from himself like MJ so either you count the default or you don't compare the two at all. Let me also add that when MJ was doing solo albums as a teen, the Jackson 5 were still doing background vocals, so there's that.
Cac with a bad fade babbel
That's not how it works. Either you count the default or you don't compare the two at all because 1) Chris Brown was never in a hit making group as a teen and 2) Chris Brown wasn't doing hit making popular music as a pre teen for the comparisons to properly match.
If The Jackson 5 don't count then don't compare Chris Brown to MJ who made his bones in a group. Chris Brown doesn't have a group to separate from himself like MJ so either you count the default or you don't compare the two at all. Let me also add that when MJ was doing solo albums as a teen, the Jackson 5 were still doing background vocals, so there's that.
Bro the Jackson 5 was a highly collaborative effort where Michael (the youngest) performed the role of the lead singer. You know teen Mike's solo records weren't hitting like teen CB's so you're leaning on his collaborations with his brothers, one of whom I think went platinum and had some pretty big hits himself.
Teenaged Mike had a solo body of work with the same amount of tracks as teenaged CB, they just weren't hitting like CB's were. You're not about to get this poster to marginalize the Jackson 5 as a collaborative effort in any manner whatsoever. That was a team. Everybody has background vocalists on albums lol. Idk what the point of that was.
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Mike the Executioner
What went on up there? Poppers and weird sex!
But Michael's teen albums were also collaborative efforts. Motown wouldn't let him write or play instruments on them.
Plankton
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Now you're just trolling.
I just told you Chris Brown never started in a group. Chris Brown did not make his bones in a group where a label first used their resources for the group and then for Chris to be solo afterwards like with MJ. So if you are going to compare the two you have to count the group and solo efforts or don't compare them at all because CB never had a group to separate himself from for a solo career like MJ did.
You can do that type of comparison with Bobby Brown coming from New Edition or Beyonce coming from Destiny's Child but you can't do that with Chris Brown because he never started off in a successful group. The comparisons wouldn't match.
But even if we were to play your troll game you're still off...
You said: Teenaged Mike had a solo body of work with the same amount of tracks as teenaged CB, they just weren't hitting like CB's were. Dude, you sound young and uninformed. And you sound like someone who was not around like I was. Motown did a whole best of album of MJs solos as a teen. I had this album as a kid in the 80's(The vinyl). None of these were Jackson 5 songs, all MJ solo. Got To Be There, Rockin Robin, Ben, I wanna Be Where You Are. Those are some major hits. If you are unfamiliar with that fact, it's because you weren't around back in the day. You sound like someone who didn't experience the resurgence of anything Jackson 5/teen MJ related in the 80's. Every song on this album is nostalgic. I can't relate to anything you said about these songs not hitting like the singles from CB's first 2 albums. That's something a troll would say.
Literally every album ever is a collaborative effort. Again who's album is it, not hard, y'all just know teen Mike was a mid solo artist compared to teen CB lolBut Michael's teen albums were also collaborative efforts. Motown wouldn't let him write or play instruments on them.
Now you're just trolling.
I just told you Chris Brown never started in a group. Chris Brown did not make his bones in a group where a label first used their resources for the group and then for Chris to be solo afterwards like with MJ. So if you are going to compare the two you have to count the group and solo efforts or don't compare them at all because CB never had a group to separate himself from for a solo career like MJ did.
You can do that type of comparison with Bobby Brown coming from New Edition or Beyonce coming from Destiny's Child but you can't do that with Chris Brown because he never started off in a successful group. The comparisons wouldn't match.
But even if we were to play your troll game you're still off...
You said: Teenaged Mike had a solo body of work with the same amount of tracks as teenaged CB, they just weren't hitting like CB's were. Dude, you sound young and uninformed. And you sound like someone who was not around like I was. Motown did a whole best of album of MJs solos as a teen. I had this album as a kid in the 80's(The vinyl). None of these were Jackson 5 songs, all MJ solo. Got To Be There, Rockin Robin, Ben, I wanna Be Where You Are. Those are some major hits. If you are unfamiliar with that fact, it's because you weren't around back in the day. You sound like someone who didn't experience the resurgence of anything Jackson 5/teen MJ related in the 80's. Every song on this album is nostalgic. I can't relate to anything you said about these songs not hitting like the singles from CB's first 2 albums. That's something a troll would say.
1. The age game don't work, most CB fans are pushing 40. All age shows me is that you just aren't aware of CB's wave because it happened after your time. I knew about the Jackson 5 years before CB came out and got to witness in real time CB putting everyone's high school and jr high in a chokehold. You were too old to understand CB's impact. And you got the same retrospective understanding of Mike's impact that I did. At least I saw in real time CB's impact, you saw neither and are an outside commentator for both too over the hill to properly process what happened during CB's time.
2. Bro you should check the sales on that greatest hit you linked, it peaked at #44 on the r&b charts. That shyt did not sell, you were in one of the 4,000 households that had that album. Good for you. If we're going off hits alone teen Chris Brown had more than double the top 10 hits Mike had, and this doesn't include cuts like Gimme That, I Wanna Be, Ya Man Ain't Me, Damage, Is This Love, Take You Down, etc, etc, classic tracks that you clearly know nothing about, because you were too old to see them hit so you don't know what you're talking about. So like chill with the disqualifying shyt because you clearly have no idea just how big teen CB was.
