Jonah, Ezekiel, Samuel, Uzziah, Samson

[King Jae]

This is what happens when you make assumptions without actual knowledge of scripture. Do you know what Son of God means? You are assuming it is referring the the same way son and father works and is used in a human sense and it is not. Son of God is a spiritual title, the angels are referred to as Son of God, Lucifer is refereed to as a Son of God, We become sons of God once the holy spirit dwells in us. it refers to spiritual natural. Anything that comes Direct spiritually from God is called Son of God.

In the beginning was the word, and the word was WITH God and the word WAS God, and through the word all things were made and without him was nothing made. And THE WORD was made flesh and dealt among us and came into his creation but his creation knew him not.

Again what you said in the bold is incorrect, the bible states the spirit of God dwells within us ONCE WE ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS LORD AND SAVIOUR. Then we become sons of God. Mohammad never accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and saviour therefore the holy spirit did not dwell in him.

I urge you to actually read and study the scripture.

That's where ur wrong....we can agree to disagree...I have read the scripture extensively....that thought process keeps ppl down...by teaching that God is a separate entity outside of u, it causes low self esteem in alot of ppl...makes ppl accept their station in life and not want to do better because "this is what God wants for me"....last church service I went to and realized I was done with organized religion the preacher said it was ok to be a single mother because that may be what God wants for your life...I found that insulting and I'm not a woman...single moms in the crowd jumped up and was crying all crazy testifying....that's some low self esteem shyt...Had the message been to be greater than ur circumstances and raise the God in you..... I could get with it...but just to accept mediocrity in life because it what God wants...naw playa....I'm not trying to mock or belittle ur beliefs...just explaining why I have trouble with that dogma...be blessed...

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

So different christian sects have opposing doctrines is in alignment with Philippians 2?

Once again i say to you WHERE is the contradiction, show me what you believe is a contradiction and i will set you straight.

In Philippians 2 he is simply asking Christians to be like minded, the same way the bible asks us and commands us not to sin but yet there is still sin. Likewise despite his call for us to all be like minded, men still read the same thing and interpret it a different way based on whatever their own intentions may be and as a result we have many 'Christians' who are not like minded

 

[ba'al]

Yes he died in flesh as a human for a specific purpose. Without his death, the blood of a pure sinless sacrifice, like the lamb without blemish, there could be no redemption of sin and all man has sinned therefore all men would have been condemned to hell. No man can live without sinning in order to be that sinless lamb without blemish, hence the word, God, Jesus Christ came down in the flesh, lived sinless in the flesh as he was more than simply man and died on the cross as that sacrifice so by the spilling of his own blood may we have redemption from sin that otherwise wasn't possible. My God, became one of his creation and lived and suffered like us and died to save us when truly we didn't deserve it, we have all sinned and by right deserved to have been condemned to hell for our sin just as the angels who trespassed were condemned to hell for theirs. But his law and judgement required death in exchange for sin, so he died for us, he took the judgement on our behalf. Thats what my God, your God the God who created us all did for us.

Don't you consider that seeing as Christ was in the flesh, living in the flesh subject to the limits and boundaries of the flesh then as a result that knowledge wasn't available to him in the flesh. The bible states no Man knows the hour, Jesus Christ in the flesh was fully man.

So how was he a God than if he was fully man? Fully man but at the same time God? "Not my will but the Father's?" And when christ would pray you're claiming he was praying to himself with your trinity doctrine?

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

That's where ur wrong....we can agree to disagree...I have read the scripture extensively....that thought process keeps ppl down...by teaching that God is a separate entity outside of u, it causes low self esteem in alot of ppl...makes ppl accept their station in life and not want to do better because "this is what God wants for me"....last church service I went to and realized I was done with organized religion the preacher said it was ok to be a single mother because that may be what God wants for your life...I found that insulting and I'm not a woman...single moms in the crowd jumped up and was crying all crazy testifying....that's some low self esteem shyt...Had the message been to be greater than ur circumstances and raise the God in you..... I could get with it...but just to accept mediocrity in life because it what God wants...naw playa....I'm not trying to mock or belittle ur beliefs...just explaining why I have trouble with that dogma...be blessed...

Your problem is you are too focused and centred on this world, this world that fades away. You believe this is the be all and end all, my friend one day you will die and nothing here will matter, none of your achievements, none of the subjective great things you did here matters, except for where you stand with God, cause that will determine where you spend eternity.

I wish you had seen the things i have seen. If you eyes were open to the spiritual you would realise just how vain this world and existence you hold in such high regard really is

 

[ba'al]

So Christians don't have to comply with the bible request?

Once again i say to you WHERE is the contradiction, show me what you believe is a contradiction and i will set you straight.

In Philippians 2 he is simply asking Christians to be like minded, the same way the bible asks us and commands us not to sin but yet there is still sin. Likewise despite his call for us to all be like minded, men still read the same thing and interpret it a different way based on whatever their own intentions may be and as a result we have many 'Christians' who are not like minded

 

[King Jae]

Your problem is you are too focused and centred on this world, this world that fades away. You believe this is the be all and end all, my friend one day you will die and nothing here will matter, none of your achievements, none of the subjective great things you did here matters, except for where you stand with God, cause that will determine where you spend eternity.

I wish you had seen the things i have seen. If you eyes were open to the special you would realise just how vain this world and existence you hold in such high regard really is

naw bruh I know God real...too many things have happened in my life...really not supposed to still be here...I know this just a pit stop...there been times I asked him for signs and he gave them without hesitation...this is the world of ego aka the devil...personally believe ego is the devil because that's the part of the soul that the majority operate from...hence the world being the way it is..they say money root of all evil because u can't impose ur ego on others without it most times...

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

So how was he a God than if he was fully man? Fully man but at the same time God? "Not my will but the Father's?" And when christ would pray you're claiming he was praying to himself with your trinity doctrine?

Yes Fully man and at the same time God, because as i explained before many time he is God who took upon himself the likeness of a man, made himself as a man, as a result becoming subject to the flesh, to the body that things that govern us and limit us. As a said God is in three distinct parts, the same as you, so only as the word, the word that was with God and was God did he become flesh and be dealt among us. Being subjected to the flesh included being vulnerable to all the weaknesses and temptations of the flesh, it is the will and the nature of the flesh to seek sin, the flesh wars with the spirit as it is mentioned in the scripture. Just because he made himself a man and came in the flesh doesn't mean he lost his identity, he was still who he is, Still God, but just God in the form of flesh, fully as a human being.

Not his will, his will in the flesh be done but the will of the father in heaven, as being in the flesh as mentioned before he was tempted by things in the flesh. Remember how Satan tempted Jesus, the bible states it is the flesh that is wicked, the flesh that wars against the spirit so as he was in the flesh he was subjected to everything of it, including things such as the vain desires of human beings and the flesh hence let the father and not his will be done, as the will of the flesh is opposed to the will of God.

He was drawing his power from The father, a distinct part of himself that exists separately because again he was in the flesh and while he was living as a human being he was subject to the limitations and weaknesses of a human being, therefore he had to draw his strength from somewhere. Remember God knows all, it is possible the whole reason why we and God exist in three parts, mind body and soul is because he knew he would have to come down in the flesh as a human to die as a redemption for our sins, and as a human he would be without his true Godly form or powers, therefore the distinct parts existed to leave a part of himself there in heaven which he could draw strength from while he lived in a human body. Living as a man and being limited to being a man he had to also connect back to his power, back to his God self the same way a man connects to God.

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

So Christians don't have to comply with the bible request?

Again please find one place where i said they dont. Of course we must live by what it stated in is word, but just because we are meant to doesn't mean we actually do. You as a human being are MEANT to obey the law at all times, doesn't mean you do does it. Just as we breaks mans law we also break Gods law, which is why Jesus Christ came, to suffer the death due to us who have broken his law, that those who believe in him and strive to live right even though they may fall every so often, his sacrifice will take the place of their judgement.

 

[ba'al]

The trinity doctrine is confusing. How can you be fully one entity but partly another entity? This and the oneness doctrine at times sound like the equivalent of avatars you read about in eastern philosophy and religions to me honestly.

Yes Fully man and at the same time God, because as i explained before many time he is God who took upon himself the likeness of a man, made himself as a man, as a result becoming subject to the flesh, to the body that things that govern us and limit us. As a said God is in three distinct parts, the same as you, so only as the word, the word that was with God and was God did he become flesh and be dealt among us. Being subjected to the flesh included being vulnerable to all the weaknesses and temptations of the flesh, it is the will and the nature of the flesh to seek sin, the flesh wars with the spirit as it is mentioned in the scripture. Just because he made himself a man and came in the flesh doesn't mean he lost his identity, he was still who he is, Still God, but just God in the form of flesh, fully as a human being.

Not his will, his will in the flesh be done but the will of the father in heaven, as being in the flesh as mentioned before he was tempted by things in the flesh. Remember how Satan tempted Jesus, the bible states it is the flesh that is wicked, the flesh that wars against the spirit so as he was in the flesh he was subjected to everything of it, including things such as the vain desires of human beings ans the flesh hence let the father and not his will be done, as the will of the flesh is opposed to the will of God.

He was drawing his power from The father, a distinct part of himself that exists separately because again he was in the flesh and while he was living as a human being he was subject to the limitations and weaknesses of a human being, therefore he had to draw his strength from somewhere. Remember God knows all, it is possible the whole reason why we and God exist in three parts, mind body and soul is because he knew he would have to come down in the flesh as a human to die as a redemption for our sins, and as a human he would be without his true Godly form or powers, therefore the distinct parts existed to leave a part of himself there in heaven which he could draw strength from while he lived in a human body. Living as a man and being limited to being a man he had to also connect back to his power, back to his God self the same way a man connects to God.

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

naw bruh I know God real...too many things have happened in my life...really not supposed to still be here...I know this just a pit stop...there been times I asked him for signs and he gave them without hesitation...this is the world of ego aka the devil...personally believe ego is the devil because that's the part of the soul that the majority operate from...hence the world being the way it is..they say money root of all evil because u can't impose ur ego on others without it most times...

Then you know God does indeed exist as an entity separate of you who created you, and to whom you will return

You seem to be taking certain things out the scripture and adding your own spin to it, like ego is the devil. The scripture doesn't say that it says clearly the devil is a being, a fallen angel who exists who fell from heaven and is now here on earth.

 

[Eastside Get The Money]

Ain’t Christianity the religion of Trump’s America

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

The trinity doctrine is confusing. How can you be fully one entity but partly another entity? This and the oneness doctrine at times sound like the equivalent of avatars you read about in eastern philosophy and religions to me honestly.

Jesus is not partly anything. He is fully man and fully God. He is fully man because he was living as a full fledged human being with all the drawbacks but he is still fully God because God is WHO he is. Long before he was on the earth in the form of a human being he existed as God in heaven, that is who he is despite the fact he was living as a human being at the time God is still truly who he is. If my consciousness was dumped into your body i would be both you AND me, and living in your body limited by the limitations of your body but im still me, i am me living as you.

You find that confusing because you think of it in the sense of a human, as us humans its impossible to exist as one entity and another all at the same time, but remember God is God and would not be subject to any such limitations.Anything is possible with God.

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

Ain’t Christianity the religion of Trump’s America

Didn't it exist long before 'trumps america'

 

[Eastside Get The Money]

Didn't it exist long before 'trumps america'

But didn’t the story of Horus exist bef...

Nah I’m gonna hop out this thread

 

[Master Teacher]

naw bruh I know God real...too many things have happened in my life...really not supposed to still be here...I know this just a pit stop...there been times I asked him for signs and he gave them without hesitation...this is the world of ego aka the devil...personally believe ego is the devil because that's the part of the soul that the majority operate from...hence the world being the way it is..they say money root of all evil because u can't impose ur ego on others without it most times...

God made us in his image ain't no devil apart me people use that has an excuse to not take responsibility for their actions

they devil can only present you with temptations he can't make you do anything or holds any power over you

the bible is an actual scientific book, all the egyptians gods are present in genesis, and so are other gods, the hebrew word for god is El, and the plural is Elohim, if there was only one god there wouldn't be a plural form, but then you have to ask yourself what does that word god mean, the creator has a name and it's not god, so when really look at the definition of the word god, it is merely a title not a supreme being