Jonathan Isaac on why he's not getting the vaccine

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

I'm not an expert in labor law but I don't see why businesses can't handle the tracking of vaccination status themselves.

They can, but it's going to be OSHA's job to keep track of it and make sure that those businesses are actually following through with the mandate. Problem is, you're going to have 800 workers tasked with covering 100,000 private sector companies covered by Biden's new rule.

The majority of companies think that OSHA is a joke and is not going to fully abide by the mandate and OSHA won't be able to catch them all. The worst thing you can do is leave it up to businesses to do the mandate and vaccination tracking themselves.

 

[Emoryal]

True but at the same time I feel like getting vaccinated should be a personal choice

Nah

 

[MoneyTron]

They can, but it's going to be OSHA's job to keep track of it and make sure that those businesses are actually following through with the mandate. Problem is, you're going to have 800 workers tasked with covering 100,000 private sector companies covered by Biden's new rule.

The majority of companies think that OSHA is a joke and is not going to fully abide by the mandate and OSHA won't be able to catch them all. The worst thing you can do is leave it up to businesses to do the mandate and vaccination tracking themselves.

The assumption made is that most companies will abide by it even if its not fully enforceable. That may or may not be true.

Regardless, we're talking about two different things. I'm more concerned with private businesses and their own vaccination mandates, not the overarching federal one.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

The assumption made is that most companies will abide by it even if its not fully enforceable. That may or may not be true.

Regardless, we're talking about two different things. I'm more concerned with private businesses and their own vaccination mandates, not the overarching federal one.

Every company is not going to abide by the mandate. Even all of those private businesses aren't going to do so as well. Don't put your faith in all of those private businesses doing the right thing.

It's incredibly naive to believe so.

 

[Actually6Foot3]

He's saying what I've been saying this whole time

Y'all mad af in here I bet

Young, healthy, unvaccinated nikkas are NOT dropping like flies. That's them old folks 65+ for the most part.

One of my gym buddies has the same sentiment. He had covid in the summer, socket for a week and a half and said fukk a vaccine I already have antibodies

 

[GoAggieGo.]

Are you more comfortable with the long-term side effects of COVID than you are with the vaccine? To me, the equation is pretty simple.

I’d say no since I went and got vaccinated.

Well, I don’t know if I can even say that. I can’t answer your question on what provides more discomfort for me, personally. I just hope those in my family and I who have decided to get vaccinated aren’t harmed by it in the future. That probably weighs on my mind more than the actual virus if I’m being honest; especially since none of us have been really harmed by the virus both pre and post vax.

 

[MoneyTron]

Every company is not going to abide by the mandate. Even all of those private businesses aren't going to do so as well. Don't put your faith in all of those private businesses doing the right thing.

It's incredibly naive to believe so.

That why I said "most". Keyword "most".

Most companies will mandate the vaccine or stringent test as a means to keep productivity high and they'll use the federal mandate as a way to back their decision.

Will some not follow through? Sure. But no law can be enforced 100% of the time. That's not what they're meant to do.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

That why I said "most". Keyword "most".

Most companies will mandate the vaccine or stringent test as a means to keep productivity high and they'll use the federal mandate as a way to back their decision.

Will some not follow through? Sure. But no law can be enforced 100% of the time. That's not what they're meant to do.

Hence the purpose of the Federal mandate and OSHA stepping into the fold. That's their job to make sure that it's being enforced.

 

[MoneyTron]

I’d say no since I went and got vaccinated.

Well, I don’t know if I can even say that. I can’t answer your question on what provides more discomfort for me, personally. I just hope those in my family and I who have decided to get vaccinated aren’t harmed by it in the future. That probably weighs on my mind more than the actual virus if I’m being honest; especially since none of us have been really harmed by the virus both pre and post vax.

That doesn't make sense to me. We know the virus can cause verifiable long-term side effects. The governor of Virginia said he hasn't been able to smell for a year now. That's a long-term neurological disorder.

 

[MoneyTron]

Hence the purpose of the Federal mandate and OSHA stepping into the fold. That's their job to make sure that it's being enforced.

They can make sure its enforced but the mandate gives companies soft power to self-enforce to do what they need to continue operating at a desired level. Just like you said, they can't get to everyone. But they already know that.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

They can make sure its enforced but the mandate gives companies soft power to self-enforce to do what they need to continue operating at a desired level. Just like you said, they can't get to everyone. But they already know that.

They don't.

 

[gldnone913]

So the Rolling Stone made up a whole profile about him??? Why is that OK?

 

[MoneyTron]

They don't.

Sure they do. They aren't stupid. You already did the math. I'm sure those policy makers have the same numbers.

We don't have enough police to enforce all traffic laws. They still get broken. But they manage to catch enough to prevent mass law breaking. People police themselves for the most part. Same concept.

 

[93 til]

He's rumored to be MAGA so it makes him an easy target of fabricated stories that aren't necessarily true.

It's not a rumor

While I do agree that the media can be on some bullshyt and is playing a dangerous game for spreading misinformation, but dude is a clown.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Sure they do. They aren't stupid. You already did the math. I'm sure those policy makers have the same numbers.

The government has been making false demands and promises this entire pandemic knowing that the infrastructure wasn't in place for a lot of those processes to happen. Case in point, the rent moratorium. They legit threw the money out there and told states to figure it out all while not realizing that those cities and states just didn't have the resources or manpower to process applications fast enough.