Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD
The new #12 is bold and black. Browns are back š
And oh, he was drafted 25 picks ahead of Lamar in same draft, too.
What am I missing?
What am I missing?
Josh Allen has an MVP, is a year older than Lamar, but the media never says he needs Super Bowl to cement his legacy
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He's a cac.
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Real talk tho, Lamar plays for a franchise that has 2 SBs from far inferior QBs, while Josh plays for one of the most cursed franchises in the league. Hard to put SB OR BUST expectations on the Buffalo Bills
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Real talk tho, Lamar plays for a franchise that has 2 SBs from far inferior QBs, while Josh plays for one of the most cursed franchises in the league. Hard to put SB OR BUST expectations on the Buffalo Bills
I mean itās mostly just the playoff stuff from earlier in Lamarās career. But after the last two postseasons think we can call those struggles a wrap.
Doesnāt help that Lamar is getting absolutely murdered behind that line this year.
Doesnāt help that Lamar is getting absolutely murdered behind that line this year.
One person is much closer to his October form in January than the other...
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Both ring less
Both ring less
Here we go with these intellectually lazy brain dead takes 
Allen plays better in the playoffs. His losses come down to a few plays against the Chiefs. His teams score nearly 30 points
Meanwhile up until last year, the Ravens had scored their least amount of points of the season in their playoff losses with Lamar.
And despite all this, most people still say Allen needs to get a ring if he's going to be considered the best in the league.
Its like some of yall like intentionally acting dumb just to argue or out of emotion.
Allen plays better in the playoffs. His losses come down to a few plays against the Chiefs. His teams score nearly 30 points
Meanwhile up until last year, the Ravens had scored their least amount of points of the season in their playoff losses with Lamar.
And despite all this, most people still say Allen needs to get a ring if he's going to be considered the best in the league.
Its like some of yall like intentionally acting dumb just to argue or out of emotion.
I hate when these dudes act obtuse because they only do that shyt when they want to.Here we go with these intellectually lazy brain dead takes
Allen plays better in the playoffs. His losses come down to a few plays against the Chiefs. His teams score nearly 30 points
Meanwhile up until last year, the Ravens had scored their least amount of points of the season in their playoff losses with Lamar.
And despite all this, most people still say Allen needs to get a ring if he's going to be considered the best in the league.
Its like some of yall like intentionally acting dumb just to argue or out of emotion.
Peter Parker
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When did the bullshyt basketball rings argument infect football? Dan Marino anyone? shyt plenty of others
I get it in basketball somewhat(even though it lacks a little merit there too as well) but Football is way more team oriented and the meta changes damn near every season, it's way more about the organization than any individual player in the NFL
I get it in basketball somewhat(even though it lacks a little merit there too as well) but Football is way more team oriented and the meta changes damn near every season, it's way more about the organization than any individual player in the NFL
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That conversation is out there about Josh, too. Maybe it isn't as loud because Lamar had two MVPs before Josh had one. Also Josh does play better in the playoffs.
What I will say is while that conversation is out there about him too, it is softer. There is a blatant softening of Josh, examples being, he "always" plays well in the playoffs; he "always" plays Mahomes to draw, etc. Nobody is saying that within this thread but people say both statements often and neither are true and that pisses me off.
Allen is the only player who has played Mahomes multiple times in the playoffs and is winless. Brady was 2-0. Burrow is 1-1. Hurts is 1-1. Allen is 0-4. Everybody else who has had more than one crack at the Chiefs has at least one victory on em, the Bills have 0 and have had the MOST chances to beat them. And don't talk to me about coaching or defensive flaws because we not about to act like Hurts' defense didn't get ate up by Mahomes in the first SB or like anybody believes Burrow has a better coach or organization than Allen has in Buffalo.
0-4 is a team failure and Josh is part of that.
It hasn't always been Josh's fault, but nobody assigns all blame to him because we know this. 0-4 isn't always everyone else though, and while Allen has generally played well vs KC, Mahomes is the mf always making the winning play in those games. Allen had the ball in crunch time in last year's AFC Championship with the chance to win again, just the most recent example.
All that said, I'm not one of these guys who thinks Allen won't win a Super Bowl. He's obviously talented enough to carry a team, at different stages of his career, that had a weak run game, weak pass catchers, and liabilities all over his defense. Not to mention suspect coaching in the playoffs, McDermott has gotten embarrassed multiple occasions. Allen's talent is obviously overcompensating and covering all of these holes.
He's in Y8, if I had to guess, he definitely wins 1. And this year he may not have to play the Chiefs, as well as having the AFC potentially run thru Buffalo again. So he'll continue having great opportunities as long as he's in his prime, and this year may ne the one.
The coverage on his shortcomings are definitely softer than the coverage of Lamar's, but people talk about Josh too.
What I will say is while that conversation is out there about him too, it is softer. There is a blatant softening of Josh, examples being, he "always" plays well in the playoffs; he "always" plays Mahomes to draw, etc. Nobody is saying that within this thread but people say both statements often and neither are true and that pisses me off.
Allen is the only player who has played Mahomes multiple times in the playoffs and is winless. Brady was 2-0. Burrow is 1-1. Hurts is 1-1. Allen is 0-4. Everybody else who has had more than one crack at the Chiefs has at least one victory on em, the Bills have 0 and have had the MOST chances to beat them. And don't talk to me about coaching or defensive flaws because we not about to act like Hurts' defense didn't get ate up by Mahomes in the first SB or like anybody believes Burrow has a better coach or organization than Allen has in Buffalo.
0-4 is a team failure and Josh is part of that.
It hasn't always been Josh's fault, but nobody assigns all blame to him because we know this. 0-4 isn't always everyone else though, and while Allen has generally played well vs KC, Mahomes is the mf always making the winning play in those games. Allen had the ball in crunch time in last year's AFC Championship with the chance to win again, just the most recent example.
All that said, I'm not one of these guys who thinks Allen won't win a Super Bowl. He's obviously talented enough to carry a team, at different stages of his career, that had a weak run game, weak pass catchers, and liabilities all over his defense. Not to mention suspect coaching in the playoffs, McDermott has gotten embarrassed multiple occasions. Allen's talent is obviously overcompensating and covering all of these holes.
He's in Y8, if I had to guess, he definitely wins 1. And this year he may not have to play the Chiefs, as well as having the AFC potentially run thru Buffalo again. So he'll continue having great opportunities as long as he's in his prime, and this year may ne the one.
The coverage on his shortcomings are definitely softer than the coverage of Lamar's, but people talk about Josh too.
Not yet as his numbers are still a day and night difference compared to his level of play in the regular season.
He's James Harden at this point until proven otherwise.
That's true, though the fact that he has had the ability to play against Mahomes multiple times is a positive in a sense. Burrow has been so unhealthy and Lamar has missed time or just not gotten there
Hurts played better in his loss v Mahomes than he did in his win. The difference was the defensive performance was night and day.
Allen hasn't had a defensive performance against the Chiefs like Burrow or Hurts got in their Ws, or Brady got in his SB W.
Still, with that said Allen has had his chances. Last year he was brutal on that last drive. You have to pick up way more yards before 4th down. That was a poorly executed 2 minute drive by him. He also screwed up late in the 2023 playoffs against the Chiefs.
You're being obtuse here breh.
You know what happened in those games. I don't want to have to waste time explaining it.
I can be nice and give you everything else in your post, but not this part