Joy Reid asks MAGA, what more do you want

[Black Magisterialness]

Hatred. Literally that's the point.
They NEED hatred to function. The American White Male needs hatred to fuel his political action. If there's no Us/Them dichotomy, then it has to be "us". And in an "us" framework, they will NEVER be the most talented, the most sought after, the most beloved, or the most lauded.

This is what they fear. Being seen for the mediocre collective they really are.

 

[Vandelay]

The Great Leveler

How only violence and catastrophes have consistently reduced inequality throughout world history

press.princeton.edu

This book is written by someone who's done a historical analysis. The pattern of human history is violence to reduce inequality.

China did something that our government should have done which is to have a firm hand on their banks and private industries. You can make money, you can sell products but you stay in your lane and don't try to interfere with the laws of the country. In america it's the opposite. Our politicians are dependent on donations from the companies they're supposed to be regulating.

So while the Chinese government controls its tech and banking sectors, our tech and banking controls our government. So here we are, with these private companies having the data on everyone and can work hand in glove with their goons in government to get their goals met which include crushing dissent of any kind.

Our businesses are run like feudal societies with kings(CEOS) at the top and peasants(Frontline workers) on the bottom who have no say in the policies (including working conditions and pay) of the places they spend most of their lives in. These CEOs naturally see democracy as an inefficient system compared to what they're used to. You can't have true democracy in a society where people who thrive in undemocratic structures can access the government and twist it into the kind of setting they are used to(authoritarian). If you dont control capitalism, it will turn into authoritarianism. When capitalism fails to deliver and socialism becomes a desirable alternative, capitalism has one final counter: fascism. Your life isn't worse because of decisions made by unelected individuals in board rooms, your life is made worse because of some easily identifiable ethnic or social group. This appeal to group identity as a smoke screen has been successful for so long that they have no reason to believe it won't work this time.

I think the worst thing Obama's administration did or didn't do rather is prosecute anyone for the banking fallout. They could've locked 2-3 people up, and it would've curbed all this dumbass financial and tech industry behavior. Now they're looked at as the engines of our economy who can do no wrong, and if we slow them down then we slow the economy down.

Well... maybe the economy SHOULD slow down... because unfortunately now, the only thing slowing this whole totalitarian speed run down will be a total collapse of the economy.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

My goodness

Listen to how ridiculous that list is, it’s 2025 mind you.

At the end of the day they showed you what they wanted back in the 1600’s: everyone their slave.

They’d love to have everyone else do the work, take advantage of the luxuries that comes from it while they take all the credit for what they “built”.

Basically this

Read somewhere that they were expecting black people to take up the “black jobs” that the immigrants were doing and black people are not doing them.

So basically, they were expecting slavery from the 1600’s once immigrants got the boot… especially farmers and it hasn’t happened

They basically want slavery back and cats aren’t paying attention

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

I think the worst thing Obama's administration did or didn't do rather is prosecute anyone for the banking fallout. They could've locked 2-3 people up, and it would've curbed all this dumbass financial and tech industry behavior. Now they're looked at as the engines of our economy who can do no wrong, and if we slow them down then we slow the economy down.

Well... maybe the economy SHOULD slow down... because unfortunately now, the only thing slowing this whole totalitarian speed run down will be a total collapse of the economy.

He was worried that white republicans would be mad at him so he used basically the most liberal of republican ideas to try and build a common ground. He feared the anger of conservatives more than the anger of his own base.

A trend that continues to this day with people like Gavin talking about the death of someone who didn't care about school shootings and held the kind of opinions on black people that would make George Wallace grin from ear to ear--like hes some kind of peaceful activist whose "work will continue". Absolutely gutless, repulsive and out of touch shyt. These are not the kind of people who will protect our rights. They can't even call an obvious genocide what it is. Those spineless cowards aren't going to do shyt to protect the rights and freedoms people died to get us.

These pussies care more about appealing to their "friends on the right" than human rights. Obama continued the Bush bailouts, used Romney's model of healthcare for the affordable care act and those people STILL hated him. Listening to your base is a lesson democrats are hell bent on not learning and instead would rather scratch their heads wondering "why are we losing" while watching republicans secure wins by giving their base the racism and police violence they've been begging for.

 

[RickyDiBiase]

Hatred. Literally that's the point.
They NEED hatred to function. The American White Male needs hatred to fuel his political action. If there's no Us/Them dichotomy, then it has to be "us". And in an "us" framework, they will NEVER be the most talented, the most sought after, the most beloved, or the most lauded.

This is what they fear. Being seen for the mediocre collective they really are.

and it ain't gonna get any easier for em either, and they know that.

 

[Afrodroid]

cacs are miserable by nature, they're never happy and want to drag the world to hell with them

 

[IIVI]

Real talk:

They want everyone else to do the dirty, manual labor work while they do things like STEM and entertainment so they can point to how great they are as they “save the world” and “make everyone feel great!”

The problem is everyone else has always been is as good or better at STEM than they are when given the same opportunities.

That’s where the big freak out is happening. They can’t win straight up the more transparent things have become, so they now go to sabotage.

Note they never point to everyone else’s innovations or key work they built off of. Not to mention the work other people have been doing for them that they take credit for.

They want to act like they’re saving the world when there always has been an insane amount of new breakthroughs by everyone else as well. When you act like it’s all you though you can be the one to “supervise” so you can avoid all the work, which is a big part of what this is about.

 

[High Art]

They want slavery brought back.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

I have more respect for those white chicks on “IHIP news” than I do for a lot of people out here including a lot of black people.


Again.. most seem to not even be paying attention.

I’m about to bush caring about any of this too and just try to figure out ways to get me and mines out. This shyt is done.. no way to fight back and no one willing to. Won’t boycott racist sports, siding with people who rather see you and your kids picking fruit or dead, easily entertained/distracted by dumb irrelevant shyt, and people insulting black/brown intelligence left and right and I’m starting to believe they have a point.


Logging off

 

[IIVI]

Basically this

Read somewhere that they were expecting black people to take up the “black jobs” that the immigrants were doing and black people are not doing them.

So basically, they were expecting slavery from the 1600’s once immigrants got the boot… especially farmers and it hasn’t happened

They basically want slavery back and cats aren’t paying attention

Yup.

Pawn of all the dirty work then do nothing but yap and socialize all day at their high-paying jobs they don’t deserve.

Got to keep everyone else down so they don’t show them up at these jobs.

 

[Wepa Man]

I DO NOT put my self and family around cacs like events, concerts, sports even some restaurants. fukk these devils

 

[FlimFlam]

The way i feel right now about the right is the way I felt when it came to that stupid bill that would gut medicare to fund tax cuts. When I found out the only thing stopping that bill would be republican legislators voting against their own personal financial interests, I knew it was a wrap and that bill would pass.

If the only thing stopping fascism from taking hold to turn back the clock on peoples rights is the likes of Josh Shapiro, John Fetterman, Chuck Schumer, hakeem jeffries etc. Then its a wrap. The democratic party right now is not made of fighters hardened by the labor movement, it's made of people who couldn't cut it in wall st. Or Hollywood but want the money of the wall st banker and the fame and following of a Hollywood star. These are narcissists obsessed with their personal brand and career goals, not the wellbeing of americans. If you need any proof, just look at how they treat their own colleagues that are further left and have popular support.

The progressive era only happened as a result of massive wealth inequality and economic calamities that occurred in the gilded age and culminated in the massive unemployment and suffering caused during the great depression. Conservatism and it's goal of hoarding wealth at the top was essentially a non starter for 40 years after that. What we have been in since at least the late 1970s starting with Carter is the regressive era where even the democrats are conservative in their policies. New deal, labor heavy democrats are a dead breed of politician and the only way to resurrect them is to summon them with the kind of suffering that occurred almost 100 years ago.

The good news is eventually the pendulum will swing back and liberal policies like universal social benefits and taxing billionaires out of existence will come back. The bad news is it will require millions being unemployed, dying of preventable disease and malnutrition and riots/strikes on a scale we have not seen in our lifetimes.

theres alot of historical context missing from this post

the pendulum didnt swing towards those social programs on its own accord... it was seized and forced in that direction by national and international currents that aren't in play today.

Nevermind the modern modest concept of a so called labor strike. Industrial sites were getting bombed, managers getting killed... all kinds of stuff that has been eliminated from all popular accounts of history. This also was in deliberate alignment with a burgeoning international labor and communist surge.

Neither other those factors are active or under any meaningful level of development stateside today. There isn't even an imagination let along memory of any level militants labor activity among the public. Also the people have been deliberately developed to see anything beyond the United States as unrelated to them.

Post WW1 and Ww2 conditions left the United States the only industrial nation not half destroyed and the windfalls from the spoils of such leverage undergirded the the New Deal (for white people) that the nation was forced into implementing to calm down social discord and compete in geostrategy

Global conditions and the US' position and trajectory within them point nowhere towards some sort of rehashing of the progressive era.

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

theres alot of historical context missing from this post

the pendulum didnt swing towards those social programs on its own accord... it was seized and forced in that direction by national and international currents that aren't in play today.

Nevermind the modern modest concept of a so called labor strike. Industrial sites were getting bombed, managers getting killed... all kinds of stuff that has been eliminated from all popular accounts of history. This also was in deliberate alignment with a burgeoning international labor and communist surge.

Neither other those factors are active or under any meaningful level of development stateside today. There isn't even an imagination let along memory of any level militants labor activity among the public. Also the people have been deliberately developed to see anything beyond the United States as unrelated to them.

Post WW1 and Ww2 conditions left the United States the only industrial nation not half destroyed and the windfalls from the spoils of such leverage undergirded the the New Deal (for white people) that the nation was forced into implementing to calm down social discord and compete in geostrategy

Global conditions and the US' position and trajectory within them point nowhere towards some sort of rehashing of the progressive era.

As i said, things have to basically return to those conditions. The new deal started as a response to the risk of a bolshevik style revolution stateside.

The great irony in American history is that the time when america had strong worker protections and a well regulated economy with high taxes on high earners was when it was at its best. The resources of the public went into building the kind of superior infrastructure that the country could use to sell goods and services to ww2 traumatized Europe and Asia.

All the pieces are slowly moving into place to recreate those conditions. Brazilian farmers are benefitting from tariffs. Mexican auto workers are benefitting from bans on Chinese EVs. America's stupidity is fueling an economic boom for smaller countries who could really use a boost to some of their industries. A key part of white supremacy is the refusal to accept responsibility. It is a narcissistic ideology built upon an easily seen delusion(white people need to do nothing to be superior to everyone else) the loss of foreign investment from the countries this administration is angering will lead to that same administration blaming THEM for America's problems and convincing the public that the move is actually to attack the countries that benefitted from America's relentless focus on pleasing mentally ill oligarchs who will never feel like they have enough money.

One thing to watch out for is when you start hearing journalists describe hitler and the leaders of the kkk and other white supremacist leaders as "controversial" figures instead of "dangerous" "murderous" "unamerican" or "evil". Thats a sign that the Overton window has shifted even more to the right.

 

[The Villain]

What’s that meme with the Asian kid in the yearbook?

“It is not enough that I succeed. Others must suffer” or something like that. That’s what they want

 

[Black Magisterialness]

theres alot of historical context missing from this post

the pendulum didnt swing towards those social programs on its own accord... it was seized and forced in that direction by national and international currents that aren't in play today.

Nevermind the modern modest concept of a so called labor strike. Industrial sites were getting bombed, managers getting killed... all kinds of stuff that has been eliminated from all popular accounts of history. This also was in deliberate alignment with a burgeoning international labor and communist surge.

Neither other those factors are active or under any meaningful level of development stateside today. There isn't even an imagination let along memory of any level militants labor activity among the public. Also the people have been deliberately developed to see anything beyond the United States as unrelated to them.

Post WW1 and Ww2 conditions left the United States the only industrial nation not half destroyed and the windfalls from the spoils of such leverage undergirded the the New Deal (for white people) that the nation was forced into implementing to calm down social discord and compete in geostrategy

Global conditions and the US' position and trajectory within them point nowhere towards some sort of rehashing of the progressive era.

I mean you also have to understand that over the last 50 years, conservatives busted their asses to make sure that corporations are so ubiquitous and insidious that general strikes mean you:
- lose income
- lose healthcare for you AND your family
- generally lose transportation
- lose social capital
- lose sexual capital
- etc.

Back in the day "work" wasn't this all encompassing state of existence. And because of that, social movements are usual killed in the crib. How could you ever have a general strike with over 60% participation when half the US workforce is "at-will" employees?
This shyt been in the works for decades and outside of a bloody revolutions OR some complete internal collapse of the current regime (which is actually likely.) Then IDK....

But it WILL swing the other way. At some point.