Joy Reid asks MAGA, what more do you want

O.T.I.S.

Veteran
Joined
Sep 15, 2013
Messages
83,132
Reputation
18,144
Daps
321,026
Reppin
The Truth
The way i feel right now about the right is the way I felt when it came to that stupid bill that would gut medicare to fund tax cuts. When I found out the only thing stopping that bill would be republican legislators voting against their own personal financial interests, I knew it was a wrap and that bill would pass.

If the only thing stopping fascism from taking hold to turn back the clock on peoples rights is the likes of Josh Shapiro, John Fetterman, Chuck Schumer, hakeem jeffries etc. Then its a wrap. The democratic party right now is not made of fighters hardened by the labor movement, it's made of people who couldn't cut it in wall st. Or Hollywood but want the money of the wall st banker and the fame and following of a Hollywood star. These are narcissists obsessed with their personal brand and career goals, not the wellbeing of americans. If you need any proof, just look at how they treat their own colleagues that are further left and have popular support.

The progressive era only happened as a result of massive wealth inequality and economic calamities that occurred in the gilded age and culminated in the massive unemployment and suffering caused during the great depression. Conservatism and it's goal of hoarding wealth at the top was essentially a non starter for 40 years after that. What we have been in since at least the late 1970s starting with Carter is the regressive era where even the democrats are conservative in their policies. New deal, labor heavy democrats are a dead breed of politician and the only way to resurrect them is to summon them with the kind of suffering that occurred almost 100 years ago.

The good news is eventually the pendulum will swing back and liberal policies like universal social benefits and taxing billionaires out of existence will come back. The bad news is it will require millions being unemployed, dying of preventable disease and malnutrition and riots/strikes on a scale we have not seen in our lifetimes.
Agreed

I’ve never been a politics type of guy. Wasn’t in the military, wasn’t in the regular work force, and certainly wasn’t in real life until recently..

And only because I could see a drastic change in the political and real world from the way people talk, act, and were behaving just in everyday shyt. Like, some how it got worse over the past few years (basically after the first Trump term).

I couldn’t believe people here are so blatantly IGNORANT…ignorant to everything and arrogantly so. I used to think it be mainly white women acting entitled but now it’s damn near everyone out here.

Mainly disappointed in the people more so the politicians. I always felt like it was 2 sides of the same coin, and this “left vs. right” is just flat out dumb as fukk… like it’s a game.

Everything is a game to people out here, but no sense of urgency when shyt becomes real until it’s probably too late.


I said that for the past 5 years, and Coli brehs said that i was fear mongering :pacspit: .

These CACs want blacks back in them chains.

I would say the racist ones, yes


I lurk in non-political type threads on Reddit and it’s a general consensus that this shyt is retarded.

(At least by normal, everyday people. Not the ones in those “Left vs. Right” obvious division forums).

Those farmers were also expecting bailouts like last time from a vid I saw from an ex-farmer lady on Youtube who ran locally as a Democrat in her majority redneck/Republican voting area. She exposed a lot of farmers because they knew this shyt was going to happen, but they thought Trump gave af about them like last time, when he doesn’t. He no longer needs their money or vote.
 

Dr. Acula

Hail Hydra
Supporter
Joined
Jul 26, 2012
Messages
26,749
Reputation
9,217
Daps
143,203

Uh they want you dead or oppressed and pushed out of society completely.

I’m getting kind of annoyed that all these “political thinkers” aren’t able to mentally context switch properly to where we currently at. Again, these people don’t care about debate and trying to compromise. This isn’t 2012. Obama and Romney aren’t the politicians of the moment. They want to destroy their enemies completely and despite them saying this verbatim, these people like Joy Reed are still trying to reason with these people through rhetoric instead of realizing they are an existential threat and are the enemy.

War mindset is needed. The old ways are dead. Too many fukking pussies on the left.

Anyways it’s a good time to recommend some reading from a left wing radical of the 1800s. It’s actually very short but may give insight on how these people fought for actual change mindstate differed from safe talking head types like Reed.

Sergey Nechayev 1869

The Revolutionary Catechism​


Read this instead of listening to that and start getting your mind right.
 

Scustin Bieburr

Baby baybee baybee UUUGH
Joined
May 3, 2012
Messages
23,285
Reputation
13,015
Daps
134,988
Agreed

I’ve never been a politics type of guy. Wasn’t in the military, wasn’t in the regular work force, and certainly wasn’t in real life until recently..

And only because I could see a drastic change in the political and real world from the way people talk, act, and were behaving just in everyday shyt. Like, some how it got worse over the past few years (basically after the first Trump term).

I couldn’t believe people here are so blatantly IGNORANT…ignorant to everything and arrogantly so. I used to think it be mainly white women acting entitled but now it’s damn near everyone out here.

Mainly disappointed in the people more so the politicians. I always felt like it was 2 sides of the same coin, and this “left vs. right” is just flat out dumb as fukk… like it’s a game.

Everything is a game to people out here, but no sense of urgency when shyt becomes real until it’s probably too late.




I would say the racist ones, yes


I lurk in non-political type threads on Reddit and it’s a general consensus that this shyt is retarded.

(At least by normal, everyday people. Not the ones in those “Left vs. Right” obvious division forums).

Those farmers were also expecting bailouts like last time from a vid I saw from an ex-farmer lady on Youtube who ran locally as a Democrat in her majority redneck/Republican voting area. She exposed a lot of farmers because they knew this shyt was going to happen, but they thought Trump gave af about them like last time, when he doesn’t. He no longer needs their money or vote.
Historians are going to look back at this time and put it on social media as a big reason for all this. People would rather listen to a comforting opinion than an inconvenient fact. Social media allows them to build echochambers(a.i. chat bots, forums, followers on social media and preferred podcasters, content creators, preferred news sources and streamers) the effect it can have on people is so strong it's like drying out an alcoholic or a heroin addict. When they get even a taste of reality outside of their preferred version of it, they react insanely.

Look at all the discourse around that dead conservative. The moment the shyt happened i knew it would turn into a circus. Before knowing anything about the shooter, I knew people would have statements ready operating under the assumption that it was done for political reasons. Content creators went into overdrive with speculation and takes and policing people's reactions. All of that activity generated likes, dislikes, views, and comment section flame wars.

The things that people are drawn to(violence, sex, human stupidity) are pumped out 24/7 on nearly every platform because attention is a valuable currency. You stepped out of the classroom to take a bathroom break and came back to see 70% of people behaving like the class clown because he got a huge reward for acting ridiculous so now everyone else is trying to replicate his success.

People are being changed by being online too much. I knew before the details came out that the shooter's beliefs and politics would be incoherent or contradict one another, just like the two people who took a shot at Trump. And when the beliefs aren't incoherent they're right wing, like the guy who killed the MN politicians (whose names I've already forgotten because the media didn't give a shyt) or the guys who tried to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer or the guy who showed up with a hammer hoping to beat Nancy Pelosi to death or all the people who broke into the Capitol with nooses talking bout how they want to hang mike pence.

A frenzy has been unleashed and it is too lucrative to try and tamp it back down. I have hope though, hope that the unemployment and growing costs of living will FORCE people out of those echochambers. If they cant pay their internet bills which would allow them to engage in their echochambers, if they cant pay to send money to their favorite content creator, it will make people have to seek out other ways of interacting with people. I said earlier in the thread that uber and doordash will become huge employers. The irony is those jobs force others to interact with people. You cant browse Twitter as much when your job and survival depends on you locking in when you get a notification for a pickup or delivery. People who lose their jobs will be forced to interact with the same blue haired liberals they've been trained to hate who are the VAST majority of people working at food banks, rent banks, clothing exchanges, etc. The black people they hate so much would be the people working with black churches to volunteer with meal programs or to get school supplies. The poverty that the right in this country is about to create will force people to actually go through social media withdrawal and start to re engage with actual reality.
 

Wargames

One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
Joined
Apr 1, 2013
Messages
30,079
Reputation
6,600
Daps
115,007
Reppin
New York City
I think they want segregation but honestly that is stupid. I say that only cause it would lead to another civil war and they are not built to win that one just like they weren’t built to win the last one. Most of them are broke.

These people are idiots or live in make believe ideological worlds that don’t deal with reality.

That is why Charlie Kirk’s death hurt and scared all of them. They are delusional and never consider the consequences of their actions.
 

HarlemHottie

Uptown Thoroughbred
Joined
Jun 10, 2018
Messages
19,393
Reputation
12,844
Daps
80,811
Reppin
#ADOS
Really what's happening is white people control everything more than they have on maybe the past century and they aren't smart enough to realized they've been robbed, bamboozled, juxed and gaffled. They can't come to grips that the mega rich basically used culture wars to distract them while they are getting fukked with no lube and they are blaming Black and brown people for that sharp pain in their ass, instead of looking upward but they aren't smart enough for self reflection as a collective.
Even if you give them everything they want they still need to feel like victims. They need an enemy.
This is their normal state since Bacon's Rebellion.

What's really making everybody uncomfortable is that it's not just happening to poor bp anymore. They've made some modern upgrades to Jim Crow. 1. By notifying the other races of their updated classification. 2. By notifying contemporary 'free people of color' that their status is unstable. And 3. Palantir is doing the job of the local sheriff and good ol boys.

You can make a 1:1 comparison, really.
 

O.T.I.S.

Veteran
Joined
Sep 15, 2013
Messages
83,132
Reputation
18,144
Daps
321,026
Reppin
The Truth
I think they want segregation but honestly that is stupid. I say that only cause it would lead to another civil war and they are not built to win that one just like they weren’t built to win the last one. Most of them are broke.

These people are idiots or live in make believe ideological worlds that don’t deal with reality.

That is why Charlie Kirk’s death hurt and scared all of them. They are delusional and never consider the consequences of their actions.
They don’t want segregation, that’s been disproven everytime black people created their own locally and stayed on their side of the fence.

Racist White folks still couldn’t leave them alone… especially if those blacks were wealthy.


They want subjugation… again. Immigrants were fukking them out of existence here so theyre rolling them back but don’t want to do the manual labor those jobs require.

This is where they wanted/expected black people to pick up the slack. For example, these farmers are not some poor ass, pull yourself by your bootstraps farmers. Most of these dudes are millionaires who have people (immigrants mainly) doing all the real work for them.

I think this is more of them trying to restore “order”… meaning black people in manual labor/service jobs waiting on racist whites while they do the easy “white” “intelligent” jobs…


But they aren’t that intelligent, not enough stupid black people around, etc.
 

O.Red

Veteran
Joined
Jun 1, 2012
Messages
19,848
Reputation
6,373
Daps
80,379
Reppin
NULL
But this is what really bothered me during that time. The dialogue about kamala and all her faults which never turned into a “well lets ride her out for 4 yrs and regroup during that time”

.
Yea but you can't keep playing that card and that needs to be seriously addressed. "Well let's ride it out" can't be the prevailing meta, and that's exactly what it became
 

Wargames

One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
Joined
Apr 1, 2013
Messages
30,079
Reputation
6,600
Daps
115,007
Reppin
New York City
They don’t want segregation, that’s been disproven everytime black people created their own locally and stayed on their side of the fence.

Racist White folks still couldn’t leave them alone… especially if those blacks were wealthy.


They want subjugation… again. Immigrants were fukking them out of existence here so theyre rolling them back but don’t want to do the manual labor those jobs require.

This is where they wanted/expected black people to pick up the slack. For example, these farmers are not some poor ass, pull yourself by your bootstraps farmers. Most of these dudes are millionaires who have people (immigrants mainly) doing all the real work for them.

I think this is more of them trying to restore “order”… meaning black people in manual labor/service jobs waiting on racist whites while they do the easy “white” “intelligent” jobs…


But they aren’t that intelligent, not enough stupid black people around, etc.
You know what you’re probably right. They clearly want to restore the racist order. I thought it was segregation cause that is what they had before but it’s simpler than that they want to run shyt unchallenged and like you said they aren’t that smart. They even are going out that way to attack the smart white people because those people had already adapted to a world where you need things like a college education to survive.
 

O.Red

Veteran
Joined
Jun 1, 2012
Messages
19,848
Reputation
6,373
Daps
80,379
Reppin
NULL
What’s that meme with the Asian kid in the yearbook?

“It is not enough that I succeed. Others must suffer” or something like that. That’s what they want
That's not exactly what's happening tho. White people are crashing out because they're not succeeding

Nikkas don't like when I say this but white people, white males in particular keep swallowing wake up calls. Black people have always known what the deal is but a lot of white people are getting the message that Grandpa sold America and their grandchildren out a loooong time ago. The spoils of being an average white person don't pan out like they used to, and they can't take it

History is filled with white poors rebelling against elites after the elites got too greedy. Then racism was invented. Now when the elites fukk you all they have to do is remind you that black people exist. The racism operating system is some of the most powerful brain rot ever invented:russ:

So for all the shyt Joy named, it's just like the tweet said. White people have all of this and it's still not working. Timmy still can't afford a house, doesn't have a wife or girlfriend, and the future is looking bleak. White privilege has been watered down:mjlol:
 

Art Barr

INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
71,442
Reputation
14,803
Daps
99,414
Reppin
CHICAGO
Yeap they're too busy looking backwards at how things used to be instead of forwards and adapting to how things are now. They have this idolized view of the hetero wyte male that did all of these amazing things but also conveniently try to ignore all the foul stuff they did to make that happen. As the scales tipped slightly into making things a bit more equitable. They lost their minds because they have to actually compete and it burst the bubble of lies they've told themselves for generations of how great they are. Alot of them are mediocre, lazy, entitled, dumb, and violent. They don't measure up out here and they can't get jobs as easy off the strength of their skin color. But they're too proud to go do the jobs they actually qualify for which is working the very fields they enslaved others to do for them.


Prolific posting.


Art Barr
 

O.T.I.S.

Veteran
Joined
Sep 15, 2013
Messages
83,132
Reputation
18,144
Daps
321,026
Reppin
The Truth
You know what you’re probably right. They clearly want to restore the racist order. I thought it was segregation cause that is what they had before but it’s simpler than that they want to run shyt unchallenged and like you said they aren’t that smart. They even are going out that way to attack the smart white people because those people had already adapted to a world where you need things like a college education to survive.
Most of the average, semi-intelligent white folks actually don’t want this either.. even if some are republican.

Not sure that it’s been stated already. It’s why I try to specifically say “racist whites” instead of grouping them all in one term.

I will say that most smart white people might be indifferent to black people, but they understand intelligence, right from wrong, and that collaboration with multiple ethnicities makes progress. They comprehend that the US is a melting pot.

So you are correct as well. Thats why they are attacking schools, colleges, etc. trump doesn’t like intelligent white people either and MAGA thinks theyre all traitors which is why they are lumping liberals in with us. Liberals to them mean non-racist white folks to them.

The tranny shyt is just projection as well as trying to attack and vilify the most marginalized group of people. Easy to attack.. but most of them are not black.
 
Top