JR on why Shelton Benjamin was never World Champion

[Cartier Murphy]

Sheamus getting a WWE title run like 4 months into his WWE main roster run basically proves they could’ve given Shelton a run, even a short one. I saw Sheamus’ name listed as a proven act earlier in here, but that seems like a fallacy. What could dude have proven in that short period? He had no merch at the time between his call up and title win, and couldn’t have conceivably had an effect on gates or ratings in that short period, giving no real justifiable reason to push him as quickly as they did. Even a guy like Brock Lesnar who had a similar immediate WWE title run had a successful collegiate background that made him marketable, in addition to being like the highest paid developmental signee ever. Sheamus was just a dude they plucked out of FCW. The only real reason for his sudden big push is that HHH took a liking to him and pushed for him, which proves my earlier point in this thread: if they want you in a certain spot, they’ll move Heaven and Earth to get you there. Roman Reigns is a pretty glaring example of this, no knocks on him (or Sheamus either for that matter). My main thing here is that the guy atleast deserved a shot. Whether or not he bombed, succeeded, grew a personality or just stayed a one note babyface, he was over, and could work. He had a stellar run with the IC title and a bunch of classic bouts with the top guys on RAW at that time. Everything else could’ve fallen into place if they atleast gave him the shot

 

[John Reena]

Far more effort has been put forward in this thread than WWE ever has. Even a storyline for his return. What’s Dolph Ziggler interesting gimmick?

Dolph Ziggler- he’s the cocky arrogant show off heel.


Shelton- guy who smiles....occasionally smirks.

ITS ABOUT THE CHARACTER/GIMMICK

 

[dh86]

Dolph Ziggler- he’s the cocky arrogant show off heel.


Shelton- guy who smiles....occasionally smirks.

ITS ABOUT THE CHARACTER/GIMMICK

Ziggler's gimmick is an arrogant heel that thinks hes better than he is? Well shyt, you told me. Really reinvented the wheel.

 

[John Reena]

Ziggler's gimmick is an arrogant heel that thinks hes better than he is? Well shyt, you told me. Really reinvented the wheel.

I know cuz Shelton smiling CAW boringness means he deserved a long title reign.

 

[dh86]

I know cuz Shelton smiling CAW boringness means he deserved a long title reign.

If Ziggler being a shyt version of every long haired heel over the past 50 years did it, then sure.

 

[John Reena]

If Ziggler being a shyt version of every long haired heel over the past 50 years did it, then sure.

Sure it’s a old gimmick but at least it’s SONETHING. Shelton comes out smiles, acts like a CAW, ZZZZXzzzz.

 

[8WON6]

Sure it’s a old gimmick but at least it’s SONETHING. Shelton comes out smiles, acts like a CAW, ZZZZXzzzz.

This is why you have managers. This IS pro wrestling. Managers are a thing and they serve the exact purpose of adding "pizazz" to otherwise 'boring' characters. Or you can do like they did for Benoit's title win at WM20, have two guys like HBK and HHH do the heavy lifting with the storyline aspect. There are simple ways around "boring".

 

[John Reena]

This is why you have managers. This IS pro wrestling. Managers are a thing and they serve the exact purpose of adding "pizazz" to otherwise 'boring' characters. Or you can do like they did for Benoit's title win at WM20, have two guys like HBK and HHH do the heavy lifting with the storyline aspect. There are simple ways around "boring".

WWE tried that with Cesaro n even Paul Heyman couldn’t get him to the next level.

While we mentioning Benoit, even he had a gimmick. Rabid wolverine, toothless aggression, scrappy fighter. They even called themselves letting Shane b his mouthpiece until they realized his gimmick of being a fearless scrappy fighter was resonating with fans, not his manager

 

[R=G]

Ziggler's gimmick is an arrogant heel that thinks hes better than he is? Well shyt, you told me. Really reinvented the wheel.

Dolph Ziggler imitates Michaels and Billy Gunn. Why THE fukk DID YOU IDIOTS BRING THAT CLOWN up for? He's the definition of mediocrity. A true loser.

 

[dh86]

Sure it’s a old gimmick but at least it’s SONETHING. Shelton comes out smiles, acts like a CAW, ZZZZXzzzz.

And that was only SOMETHING because of AJ Lee. AJ was already over and they gave him to Ziggler to elevate him. We’re just shooting the shyt on a message board and we have given much better ideas for Shelton than they’ve presented. Imagine if we got paid and thought about it a bit?

 

[dh86]

WWE tried that with Cesaro n even Paul Heyman couldn’t get him to the next level.

While we mentioning Benoit, even he had a gimmick. Rabid wolverine, toothless aggression, scrappy fighter. They even called themselves letting Shane b his mouthpiece until they realized his gimmick of being a fearless scrappy fighter was resonating with fans, not his manager

Paul Heyman actively was trying to build up Cesaro vs Brock and they never got the message and ended up appearing like sabotage. That’s not what you call effort.

 

[R=G]

WWE tried that with Cesaro n even Paul Heyman couldn’t get him to the next level.

While we mentioning Benoit, even he had a gimmick. Rabid wolverine, toothless aggression, scrappy fighter. They even called themselves letting Shane b his mouthpiece until they realized his gimmick of being a fearless scrappy fighter was resonating with fans, not his manager

Heyman didn' try to get him to the next level..he was putting over Lesnar in every segment. Do u watch this or not? Ceeseo came out of WM XXX red hot..returned from injury red hot. You got to be kidding me..Mahal is a champion but Cesaro isn't? Wtf...Roman is a champion but Cesaro isn't? It's a joke.

 

[8WON6]

WWE tried that with Cesaro n even Paul Heyman couldn’t get him to the next level.

While we mentioning Benoit, even he had a gimmick. Rabid wolverine, toothless aggression, scrappy fighter. They even called themselves letting Shane b his mouthpiece until they realized his gimmick of being a fearless scrappy fighter was resonating with fans, not his manager

For much of his time in WWE, Benoit basically walked out to the ring and just had matches. They let his in-ring character shine and the placed him in a position to be with HBK/HHH. He wasn't cutting lots of promos or doing character work like that. And like you said, they even tried Shane as his manager. They put resources behind him. Shelton was basically the "best athlete in the building" every night he was there. In a "sport" that prides itself on trying to appear real. And Jack Swagger's whole gimmick was that he was a collegiate athlete. He was worse than Shelton and they found the time. Except, Shelton did have great matches and do stuff nobody else could do. They could have easily placed Shelton in a position for one title win.

 

[John Reena]

Heyman didn' try to get him to the next level..he was putting over Lesnar in every segment. Do u watch this or not? Ceeseo came out of WM XXX red hot..returned from injury red hot. You got to be kidding me..Mahal is a champion but Cesaro isn't? Wtf...Roman is a champion but Cesaro isn't? It's a joke.

U stay rewriting history hyping up ya favorites



Cesaro boring ass never been “red hot”.

Red Hot is when u gettin Austin/Rock reactions.


Plus, Mahal got more charisma and a character, something Cesaro n Shelton don’t have.

 

[R=G]

U stay rewriting history hyping up ya favorites



Cesaro boring ass never been “red hot”.

Red Hot is when u gettin Austin/Rock reactions.


Plus, Mahal got more charisma and a character, something Cesaro n Shelton don’t have.

No one in history is gonna get Rock and Austin reactions...wtf..Bret Hart...Taker..none of em. But Cesaro was definitey on fire and over as fukk.