Just Blaze and Kanye West ran parallel but just Blaze sample flips were way better

[Tommy Gibbs]

That's true that sometimes the same samples get used and I guess we'll never really know. Might really be a coincidence but if it is that's a hell of a coincidence.

coincidences happen especially when producers used to go to record conventions and go to the same dealer giving everyone the same "rare" records. But this has happened far too much with Just Blaze. I mean, as was noted, he went from the keyboard beats to biting Rza with the 45 rpm samples

 

[Monoblock]

Would you say Kanye swiped this???

I'm not gonna get into who I think stole what just interesting seeing the same samples.

 

[MurderToCassette]

Dude went from this style in 2000





To the soul chops in 2001...funny that between the Dynasty and BP Just's style changed a lot and Bink distanced himself after that cause he felt Just was biting him. Just is a dope producer and has done some of my favorite beats (Just Blaze, Bleek, and Free, U Don't Know, even the joints on the NBA Street 2 soundtrack) but this is fishy.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Would you say Kanye swiped this???

I don't think so.

Most of the time when producers flip the same sample, I tend to think it's creative minds thinking alike. A dope groove is a dope groove. I looped both of these before the Freeway album, and I did them both the exact same way. These versions are obviously more polished, and there are endless ways to flip a sample, but especially when it comes to more obvious samples...a lot of them are going to jump out similarly to people that make beats.

Agree? Disagree?

 

[C. Dante]

I’ve just found a more liking for Mike Will, his work is dope but this makes him more than just a... how can I say it?? This show me that Mike Will is a producer who has longevity. Not just a dude who will just make beats that are going to sound like 2014-now. Does that make sense?

for sure. not every producer can work with a team to craft a hit

 

[C. Dante]

Fam. As a producer myself and a fan of Kanye since before he was “Kanye” and someone who knows both him and Just’s whole catalog. I know what im talkin bout. Just Blaze is the more talented technician. Kanye’s drums werent trash. But they were definitely NOT fukkin wit Just Blaze’s. Theres a REASON Just Blaze was The Roc’s go to producer even while Kanye was there.

same position as you g, grew up on both em. I guess we just have to agree to disagree. Just Blaze could not make a mbdtf, LR, yeezus or 808s but then again Ye might not be able to make a "U Dont Know"

 

[shopant]

Just's style aged better imo plus he has been more versatile. It's a shame he doesn't want to release all the fire he's been sitting on for years... Like this one... exhibit G



@41:54 mark

 

[DillaTUDE]

Funny cause he started out imitating Swizz on the joints he did for Half-A-Mill and Busta, then he switched to the chopped soul sound. Buckwild also left Roc management cause his samples were getting bit from from his beat tapes (like the Tom Brock joint that ended up being Girls, Girls, Girls) and then they ended up on The Blueprint.

Produced by Chad Hamilton (who was also under Roc management) a year before Usher’s “Throwback”






When Just Blaze was doing those Instagram DJ live streams he played this sample and pointed out how he felt it was a little strange how Dilla sampled the same song as him (“Stop” off of Donuts and using the Jadakiss adlibs), but failed to acknowledge how he got the sample from a State Property album that he produced on a year earlier. Definitely sounds like another Buckwild situation.

 

[spliz]

Produced by Chad Hamilton (who was also under Roc management) a year before Usher’s “Throwback”






When Just Blaze was doing those Instagram DJ live streams he played this sample and pointed out how he felt it was a little strange how Dilla sampled the same song as him (“Stop” off of Donuts and using the Jadakiss adlibs), but failed to acknowledge how he got the sample from a State Property album that he produced on a year earlier. Definitely sounds like another Buckwild situation.

This is another situation.

 

[KingsOfKings]

Rather Just then Kanye to be honest

 

[Ayo]

Just Blaze is good at flipping samples and creating crazy 8 or 10 track beats.

It takes Kanye 30 or 40 layers to get to the same place.

That's the difference between the two. Remove the choirs, and extra synths, and ad libs from a Kanye track and it could never stand up to anything Just Blaze created.

 

[Mike Wins]

Dude went from this style in 2000





To the soul chops in 2001...funny that between the Dynasty and BP Just's style changed a lot and Bink distanced himself after that cause he felt Just was biting him. Just is a dope producer and has done some of my favorite beats (Just Blaze, Bleek, and Free, U Don't Know, even the joints on the NBA Street 2 soundtrack) but this is fishy.

How much of the style change was related to industry change though? Just broke in when the cost of clearing samples went through the roof so labels were shying away from that. On top of that the synth-funk keyboard heavy sound of Aftermath and The Neptunes was hot.
Young producers had no choice but to compose their own shyt and cater to the sound that was in demand if they wanted to get their foot in the door

Def Jam and Roc-A-Fella opened the checkbook starting with Blueprint and samples were back in. Far as we know that's the type of beat Just always wanted to make. Funny too the last decade Kanye been heavy into that electronica keyboard shyt

First time I remember noticing Just was with these beats and even they different than what he started doing with Roc the next year, still dope