Just got my Ancestry DNA Results

[Apollo Creed]

I think that X and Y DNA is a pretty straight forward process, so it is likely true. African Ancestry only shows four groups in Benin (Fon, Adja, Barbia and Somba). It is hard to tell historically where some of these Mande people started their Southern pilgrimage from. It is also possible that one of your grandfathers is actually from a tribe in the the modern country of Benin. It would not be the first time that somebody thought that their ancestors were from one place, but they were in fact from a different place.

my bad it wasn't benin, it was the Ateke from Gabon. Like I said I'm not doubting having Non Dan ancestors, my statements are more so the migration paths dont match up. Now a possibility is that I could have had ancestors from a Tribe that broke off Ateke or their ancestral tribe and they got with one of my Mande ancestors.

 

[Samori Toure]

my bad it wasn't benin, it was the Ateke from Gabon. Like I said I'm not doubting having Non Dan ancestors, my statements are more so the migration paths dont match up. Now a possibility is that I could have had ancestors from a Tribe that broke off Ateke or their ancestral tribe and they got with one of my Mande ancestors.

It is really hard to tell, because this shyt is as mysterious as why all of the White people and Black people in America have passed down tales of being related to Native Americans. As it turns out DNA is showing that White and Black Americans have hardly any Native DNA. What they actually have is a mixture of European and African DNA.

 

[Apollo Creed]

It is really hard to tell, because this shyt is as mysterious as why all of the White people and Black people in America have passed down tales of being related to Native Americans. As it turns out DNA is showing that White and Black Americans have hardly any Native DNA. What they actually have is a mixture of European and African DNA.

One theory I do have, is maybe I have an Ancestor from the Kongo Kingdom (which includes DRC, Southern Gabon which the Ateke are found), as many of those people were taken to Liberia when Slave Ships were intercepted and those people were eventually referred to as 'Congo People' in Liberia. Thing is the Congo people allied with the Americo Liberians ( Americo and Congo people are used interchangably). That eventually became an Elite class though, so I still dont really see how they would have gotten with someone outside of that group and that not be passed down paternally. I think this is least likely though.

 

[Samori Toure]

One theory I do have, is maybe I have an Ancestor from the Kongo Kingdom (which includes DRC, Southern Gabon which the Ateke are found), as many of those people were taken to Liberia when Slave Ships were intercepted and those people were eventually referred to as 'Congo People' in Liberia. Thing is the Congo people allied with the Americo Liberians ( Americo and Congo people are used interchangably). That eventually became an Elite class though, so I still dont really see how they would have gotten with someone outside of that group and that not be passed down paternally. I think this is least likely though.

That is very plausible. It is also possible that slaves could have been repatriated back to Liberia and Sierra Leone by the English, but that would have probably been close enough in time that your family may have known about that. Then again the Portuguese were always moving people around during the slave era and for some reason the Ashanti purchased quite a few Central Africans from the Portuguese.

 

[invalid]

It is not so much fake as it is that people may not understand what the results are actually indicating. The results are only bullshyt if people don't understand that the results are not for a specific country; the results are actually for a region.

Those companies are misleading people by stating that those people are from Nigeria or Mali or Ghana or whatever country. When those companies are saying Nigeria they are actually saying not only Nigeria, but the also the surrounding countries of Cameroon, Niger and Benin. If you click on the AncestryDNA map for Nigeria you will see that the yellow shadow not only covers Nigeria, but it also overlaps into the surrounding countries of Cameroon, etc. So AncestryDNA and 23andme are misleading people by stating specific countries, because that is not true. However, what those tests do show is that a portion of your DNA shares an affinity with the people groups in that region.

Another thing that they don't mention in the DNA testing is that they don't test all of the ethnic groups in that region. In Nigeria specifically they normally just test Yoruba people. Maybe things have changed and they have finally gotten around to testing Fulani, Igbo and Hausa people too; but the Yoruba were normally the default group that they got their test panel from. In any event I always point to this video to illustrate what I am stating. The man that took the DNA test in this video is confirmed to be from Cameroon. However, after he took the 23andme DNA test his results came Nigerian and Congo. Well there is no mention of what happened there. 23andme does not have a test panel for people from Cameroon, so they assigned that Cameroonian guys DNA to the regions of Nigeria and Congo.



The funniest part about AncestryDNA is that the region of Cameroon is clearly meaning Bantu people, because of the other countries they assigned to Cameroon.

Is this true? I’ve had a few individuals, of whom are substantial within genealogical circles, tell me to be wary of African Ancestry. There was even a high profile incident where a man tested twice and his mtdna and y-chrom was different the second time.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Is this true? I’ve had a few individuals, of whom are substantial within genealogical circles, tell me to be wary of African Ancestry. There was even a high profile incident where a man tested twice and his mtdna and y-chrom was different the second time.

ive seen in comments in a few videos that alot of people getting the exact same results.

like i mentioned early, according to their site they have tested my tribe yet none of my parents matched my tribe lol. And based on my family history and traditions we didnt just become apart of this tribe in the last 50 yrs or something.

 

[Samori Toure]

Is this true? I’ve had a few individuals, of whom are substantial within genealogical circles, tell me to be wary of African Ancestry. There was even a high profile incident where a man tested twice and his mtdna and y-chrom was different the second time.

They are telling you to be wary, because they don't believe that the X and Y can be tied to a specific group in a region. However, the X and Y remain unchanged over time which actually insures it's accuracy.

I don't know what case you are referring to, but what most people usually state is that ethnic groups in the same region likely share the same maternal lines (X chromosome). That is why you will see people whose X chromosome come back to several groups like the Mende, Mandingos and Fulani. Well they all are originally from the same region so there is going to be a lot of overlap and African Ancestry and other testing services admit it.

 

[invalid]

ive seen in comments in a few videos that alot of people getting the exact same results.

like i mentioned early, according to their site they have tested my tribe yet none of my parents matched my tribe lol. And based on my family history and traditions we didnt just become apart of this tribe in the last 50 yrs or something.

Did both of your parents test?
I’ve never put too much stock in the MTDNA and Y-chromosome test as it’s literally only originates from 2 people out of thousands of your ancestors.

While literally all of the people in the middle could be from your purported tribes, they’re origins are essentially invisible.

Are you continental?

If so, I’ve always wanted to know how far back can you go in your pedigree?

And what do you have to support it? Documents or is it all oral history?

 

[Apollo Creed]

They are telling you to be wary, because they don't believe that the X and Y can be tied to a specific group in a region. However, the X and Y remain unchanged over time which actually insures it's accuracy.

I don't know what case you are referring to, but what most people usually state is that ethnic groups in the same region likely share the same maternal lines (X chromosome). That is why you will see people whose X chromosome come back to several groups like the Mende, Mandingos and Fulani. Well they all are originally from the same region so there is going to be a lot of overlap and African Ancestry and other testing services admit it.

Fulani and Mandingo aren’t the same lol

 

[Apollo Creed]

Did both of your parents test?
I’ve never put too much stock in the MTDNA and Y-chromosome test as it’s literally only originates from 2 people out of thousands of your ancestors.

While literally all of the people in the middle could be from your purported tribes, they’re origins are essentially invisible.

Are you continental?

If so, I’ve always wanted to know how far back can you go in your pedigree?

And what do you have to support it? Documents or is it all oral history?

Our oral history aligns with the documented history of the region my family is from.

 

[invalid]

Our oral history aligns with the documented history of the region my family is from.

So how far can you all go back in your pedigree?

 

[Apollo Creed]

So how far can you all go back in your pedigree?

150-200 yrs

 

[Samori Toure]

ive seen in comments in a few videos that alot of people getting the exact same results.

like i mentioned early, according to their site they have tested my tribe yet none of my parents matched my tribe lol. And based on my family history and traditions we didnt just become apart of this tribe in the last 50 yrs or something.

Actually one of the great fallacies in the slave trade is that there were millions of people brought to the United States (British North America) during slavery. In reality there were probably not even 400,000 brought to the USA during slavery and most of those people were brought here came between 1720-1780. What a lot of people seem to forget is that women slaves were brought to the USA after the men had already been here, because there was a need for domestic help and rice production. So a heavy dose of women brought to the USA from Sierra Leone, Guinea-Bissau, Guinea-Conakry, Liberia, Ivory Coast, Bight of Biafra (Southeastern Nigeria and Cameroon). It stands to reason that most African Americans would share the same X chromosome, because most African maternal lines for them are pretty much from the same regions. The paternal lines (Y chromosome) seems to be more dispersed from information that I have seen over the years. The thing that people need to keep in mind though is that most slave owners outside of the USA did like taking women slaves, because they could not clear fields, swamps, work in mines or build roads. The experiment in the USA of bringing in women was actually unique because the Americans decided to grow their slave holdings by natural reproduction rather than through the continual importation of new slaves, which meant that a typical woman slave in the USA had lots of children. Of course that slave woman would end up having many descendants and they would all carry her X chromosome.

I don't know the full story behind your tribe, but 23andme would have gotten your country right because you they gave you autosomal results. Those results not only take notice of your mother and father's DNA, but it also look at the DNA of their parents and your great grand parents, etc. They are looking at the sum of all of your DNA. Whereas African Ancestry only looks at your X and Y chromosome, which looks at your mother and then her mother, etc; and then at your father and then his father, etc. African Ancestry does not look at your mother's father or yoru father's mother. It only looks at your direct maternal and paternal lines, which might only be 2%-5% of your DNA rather than 100% of your DNA that autosomal results from 23andme and AncestryDNA produces.

 

[Samori Toure]

Did both of your parents test?
I’ve never put too much stock in the MTDNA and Y-chromosome test as it’s literally only originates from 2 people out of thousands of your ancestors.

While literally all of the people in the middle could be from your purported tribes, they’re origins are essentially invisible.

Are you continental?

If so, I’ve always wanted to know how far back can you go in your pedigree?

And what do you have to support it? Documents or is it all oral history?

If you wanted a picture of all of those people DNA then you need to take an autosomal test like the ones give by 23andme and AncestryDNA. However, African Ancestry is not an autosomal test. It is a test that looks directly at the maternal and paternal lines (X and Y chromosome) without taking your mother's father and your father's mother into consideration, which is how they are able to tell people the ethnic groups of their direct maternal and paternal lines.

People confusion comes in, because they don't understand the test they are taking and what results they are trying to achieve.

 

[Buck Seventy]

It is really hard to tell, because this shyt is as mysterious as why all of the White people and Black people in America have passed down tales of being related to Native Americans. As it turns out DNA is showing that White and Black Americans have hardly any Native DNA. What they actually have is a mixture of European and African DNA.

Yes, that's the main thing I have noticed all just how little Native DNA that White and Black Americans. The ones that do have significant Native DNA have ancestors that came are from Mexico or other Latin American countries.

It's good to have male and female relatives take the test to determine what lines like your father's mother's line or mother's father's line is. I know what my deceased maternal's grandmother's paternal line due to a 3rd cousin of mine (his paternal great-grandfather was my maternal grandmother's uncle) taking the test.