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since people are speaking of origins, this a good thread to repost this:

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most people in places like the USA, and even Brazil, are of Angolan and Congolese descent. the West Central region of Africa got hit the hardest and accounts for the majority of slaves in North America, followed by the Senegambia region. Its a similar story for S. America.

The Portuguese were one of the pillars of slave trade and were pretty much raiding and pillaging that region then selling and transporting the slaves everywhere. Hell, "Angola" (Louisiana state pen) is called "Angola" because majority of the slaves that worked the fields there were brought from Angola.

In Brazil, one of their national symbols, the martial art Capoeira, is actually something Angolan slaves brought over with them and masked it under the guise of "dancing", to this day, most Capoeira masters will tell you this, the martial art actually has two branches, the more popular and practiced one, which you see in movies, festivals etc, and a more deadly/aggressive version which is used with the intent to kill, that is often referred to as the "Angolan branch", which is rarely taught or practiced.

You guys should also read on Queen Nzinga:



I had a lot of other resources because i did extensive reading/research on this, but they in my old laptop, when i get a chance i'll pull them out.

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since people are speaking of origins, this a good thread to repost this:

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most people in places like the USA, and even Brazil, are of Angolan and Congolese descent. the West Central region of Africa got hit the hardest and accounts for the majority of slaves in North America, followed by the Senegambia region. Its a similar story for S. America.

The Portuguese were one of the pillars of slave trade and were pretty much raiding and pillaging that region then selling and transporting the slaves everywhere. Hell, "Angola" (Louisiana state pen) is called "Angola" because majority of the slaves that worked the fields there were brought from Angola.

In Brazil, one of their national symbols, the martial art Capoeira, is actually something Angolan slaves brought over with them and masked it under the guise of "dancing", to this day, most Capoeira masters will tell you this, the martial art actually has two branches, the more popular and practiced one, which you see in movies, festivals etc, and a more deadly/aggressive version which is used with the intent to kill, that is often referred to as the "Angolan branch", which is rarely taught or practiced.

You guys should also read on Queen Nzinga:



I had a lot of other resources because i did extensive reading/research on this, but they in my old laptop, when i get a chance i'll pull them out.


Most of your charts are accurate, however I think that a distinction needs to be made between North America, South America and the Caribbean. British North America (USA) didn't actually import that many slaves, but the ones that were imported where mostly from Senegambia, Sierra Leone, Congo and Angola.

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Congo, Angola and Nigeria actually provided the most slaves and they were overwhelmingly taken to the Caribbean to South America. In fact that whole area from Togo over to Nigeria was called the "Slave Coast."


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Historical Context: Facts about the Slave Trade and Slavery | Gilder Lehrman Institute of American History
 
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So the average black american african ancestors are Wolof, Mende, Fon, ewe, Igbo, hausa,Yoruba, Fulani, and Fante. Also cant forget about the tribes from Mozambique & Madagascar as well. That AA diversity:wow: damn I love my ethnic group:blessed:
 

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So the average black american african ancestors are Wolof, Mende, Fon, ewe, Igbo, hausa,Yoruba, Fulani, and Fante. Also cant forget about the tribes from Mozambique & Madagascar as well. That AA diversity:wow: damn I love my ethnic group:blessed:

Lol you are interpreting this wrong. Avg AA is more of a mix of Igbo and a Mande tribe and at most some traces of the other stuff.

Mende is a tribe (that is Mande), Igbo is an ethnic group made up of numerous tribes.

Being a mix of tribes is like saying an AA with a parent from NO and SC is mixed. You have to look at things from the Ethnic group level when you talk about diviserty because within the ethnic group the people are genetically similar its cultural differences that causes their tribe/nation distinction.
 

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Lol you are interpreting this wrong. Avg AA is more of a mix of Igbo and a Mande tribe and at most some traces of the other stuff.

Mende is a tribe (that is Mande), Igbo is an ethnic group made up of numerous tribes.

Being a mix of tribes is like saying an AA with a parent from NO and SC is mixed. You have to look at things from the Ethnic group level when you talk about diviserty because within the ethnic group the people are genetically similar its cultural differences that causes their tribe/nation distinction.

I would say mostly Bantu and Mande tribes, because the Bantu people are the ones from Cameroon down to Angola and Congo. The Igbo were likely in there too though, because in the Bight of Biafra is where Southeastern Nigerian and Northern Cameroonians were sent from in slavery.

You make an excellent point though as to why a person has to be careful as to how to interpret who the slaves were. The slaves usually came from inland regions rather than from the coasts. In a place like Ghana the slaves were most likely captured inland in wars, especially in wars with the Dagomba people who sold their captives to the Ashanti. Well the Dagomba were capturing Mande Muslims and other tribes as far North as modern day Burkina Faso (old name was Upper Volta) and the war captives were sold through middle men in markets like Salaga in Central Ghana until they ended up on the Coast in Southern Ghana were they were sold to the Europeans.
 

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I have actually seen higher scores for AAs. If my uncle and aunt let me post their scores then you will see that my uncle is 96% and my aunt is 95% African.

Yeah they are bullshyt, but they will give you your haplogroups and they will let you know if you have a match and the strength of that match in a country that they tested in.

I got a match in Ghana and I got the strength of that match. I later found out that match was accurate as Hell, but it was because my paternal

I'm 95.7% Sub-Saharan African. Both of my parents are from South Carolina (My dad was from the Charleston area).

I noticed that 23andme updated their DNA pool and added Nigeria and Congo.I'm now mainly 35% Nigerian 20% Coastal West African , 11.6 Congolese and 11.6% Broadly West African instead of the generic West African. According to Ancestry DNA, I'm 34% Benin/Togo, 35% Cameroon/Congo, and 11% Mali. I think I going to eventually but African Ancestry to know what is my true African Heritage.
 

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I'm 95.7% Sub-Saharan African. Both of my parents are from South Carolina (My dad was from the Charleston area).

I noticed that 23andme updated their DNA pool and added Nigeria and Congo.I'm now mainly 35% Nigerian 20% Coastal West African , 11.6 Congolese and 11.6% Broadly West African instead of the generic West African. According to Ancestry DNA, I'm 34% Benin/Togo, 35% Cameroon/Congo, and 11% Mali. I think I going to eventually but African Ancestry to know what is my true African Heritage.

In my opinion Ancestry DNA is much more accurate for regions than 23andme. It should probably be pointed out that the Benin/Togo percentage in AncestryDNA and the Nigerian percentage in 23andme is almost identical, which makes sense because Benin is right next to Nigeria.
 
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I would say mostly Bantu and Mande tribes, because the Bantu people are the ones from Cameroon down to Angola and Congo. The Igbo were likely in there too though, because in the Bight of Biafra is where Southeastern Nigerian and Northern Cameroonians were sent from in slavery.

You make an excellent point though as to why a person has to be careful as to how to interpret who the slaves were. The slaves usually came from inland regions rather than from the coasts. In a place like Ghana the slaves were most likely captured inland in wars, especially in wars with the Dagomba people who sold their captives to the Ashanti. Well the Dagomba were capturing Mande Muslims and other tribes as far North as modern day Burkina Faso (old name was Upper Volta) and the war captives were sold through middle men in markets like Salaga in Central Ghana until they ended up on the Coast in Southern Ghana were they were sold to the Europeans.
True. According to the historian people came from as far as Nigeria to purchase slaves. So just bc someone was shipped from one port doesn't necessarily mean they came from that region
 

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Yeah I am aware of the roots of hoodoo as well. I think that we had some discussion on this in either an African religious thread or a peopling thread. I am not sure which it was, but it was informative.

The interesting thing that i found out is that these traditions may have gotten mixed up even more in the Americas, because I see people using the term mojo and it is confused with voodoo. Mojo is a charm, which I think is called gris-gris in Senegambia.
Yeah there’s a lot of overlap between Voodoo and Hoodoo. Growing up I heard both used interchangeably a lot.

Personally I believe Hoodoo started in the older southern states(VA, NC, SC, GA), then made its way to the gulf during the domestic slave trade and “met up” with Vodou. Hell when you think about it, the term as we use it in the states “Voodoo” is a mix of “Vodou” and “Hoodoo”.
 
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I've heard that different regions of the slave owning states had proclivities towards Africans from certain areas. The DMV area, a relatively high number of blacks from around DC have Igbo ancestry (lots of Angolans in Louisiana, South Carolina/Georgia has blacks from rice growing regions in Africa etc.).

Doing research on my family tree shows quite a few points of entry... Virgnia, South Carolina, Maryland and north Georgia.

Probably a rebellious group since they ended up in TX before the Civil War. Popular punishment was to sell slaves "down south" or really to the new south of LA and TX.
 

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Just got my Matrilineal results back and it came back as Tuareg, with a Haplogroup H1d with a 99.4 confidence rate. Should get my Patrilineal later this week.
 
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