Just the fact that you can go from saying this a couple of post ago
You said she sees herself as black. Race IS purely biologically determined.
To now saying this in completely contradiction.
What we describe as black in the U.S isn't a complex web of haplotypes it's being descended from the original indigenous people of certain regions.
So, is race based on biology or not? And if so what is the biological basis for AADOS and Somalis to be categorized in the same racial group? You ducked and dodged this question the last time.
And that there alone really is enough for me to not take you seriously any further and ignore you from here. But, there just too much bs from you that needs to be unpacked that I'm not about to let slide
Your "yeah no" statement is tantamount to me saying "we can't completely identify who your parents are we can only check to see if your dna matches there's".
Yeah no. Like I said DNA can be used determine which people groups a person clusters with. That's it that's all.
Anything regarding racial classifications has to be extrapolated using non-scientific means.
Of course tracing the clustering of you genes and ancestry is how you determine someone's race what do you think we use the word race to describe?
I'm not sure you even know the answer to that, seeing as you've completely changed your stance on the essence of race in this convo.
My answer: It's arbitrary. There is no set definition. But, the most accepted ones tend to be at least loosely based on phenotype. But, it varies from society to society from culture to culture.
And none of those groups are mentioned to be "racially black" by anyone other than hoteps online.
Once again you display your absolute ignorance of the world and it's history. Groups like Andaman Islanders, Filipino Aetas, Papuans, and Australia Aboriginals have been considered racially black from the beginning.
Why do you think Filipino Aetas were given the name "Negrito"?
Negrito - Wikipedia
Why do you think Papuans were called "NEW GUINEANS"?
When the Portuguese and Spanish explorers arrived in the island via the
Spice Islands, they also referred to the island as
Papua.
[3] However, the name
New Guinea was later used by Westerners starting with the Spanish explorer
Yñigo Ortiz de Retez in 1545, referring to the similarities of the indigenous people's appearance with the natives of the
Guinea region of
Africa.
[3] The name is one of several toponyms sharing similar etymologies, ultimately meaning "land of the blacks" or similar meanings, in reference to the
dark skin of the inhabitants.
New Guinea - Wikipedia
Why do you think Australian Aboriginals were called "black fellas"?
Blackfella - Wikipedia
Here's your race realism at work.
Negroid - Wikipedia
(check the included groups)
Here's another point where I really should just ignore you. You've made far too many huge blunders for any reasonable person to take you seriously. But, you need to be thoroughly debunked.
And of course if you allow the criteria to be AADOS to encompass a time when legally any arbitrary amount black ancestry made you black by law in some states you will get white people being AADOS. One drop rule has been repealed in every state it existed. And if you're making up definitions to allow race not to be a factor of being ADOS of course their going to fit YOUR CRITERIA. And this homogeneous monolithic thought that no ADOS questions whether they are black not blackness is a lie to push an agenda because several of us ADOS are doing it right now.
The one drop wasn't just a court case or piece of legislation in this country. It was an unwritten rule and a way of life for all Americans since the early antebellum years. It existed before long before Plessy vs Ferguson and it's still in many respects held up as the defacto standard to categorize "blackness" ethnically or racially in America.
Black hypodescent *IS* American culture. Black hypodescent is itself one of the top three defining features that shaped AADOS as an ethnic group right up there with slavery and jim crow/reconstruction. It's part of our essence as a people. You can't separate us from it or it from us.
So, now that you're AADOS all of a sudden, just like Houston who's all of a sudden aados now after claiming to be Ghanaian. Y'all want to try to usher in alien concepts like racial black purity that doesn't and never had any place in our culture, because *AADOS IS AN ETHNIC GROUP* definied by our common heritage, history, community, and culture, NOT A RACIAL GROUP defined by our phenotype or genetics. "Blackness" for us is ethnic in nature.
But, non-ados and you self-hating aados(if you are one) who never had any real appreciation or love for this culture, history, and heritage and are afraid to even distinguish yourself by claiming aados want to try erase everything associated with what you see as "icky" aspects of our history like slavery, jim crow/reconstruction and the one drop rule which are essential aspects that define us as a people, and want us to only emphasize our RACIAL blackness and get us to focus on and define ourselves based on shyt like phenotype and genetics and convince us to alienate lighskin and biologically mixed members of our own ethnic group and seek affinity with non ados blacks(who's history, heritage and culture you *really* admire) who we share NOTHING with practically in terms of culture, sensibilities, heritage, and history simply because we're all "black".
Well I say to that if you don't like our history, heritage or culture and admire that of non-ados blacks so much, then see yourself out of our community, move to one of their countries and try to assimilate into one of their groups if they'll accept you. But, you don't get to come in and erase defining features of OUR ethnic group, because you're a self loather.
MFs who try to flatten, never speak on, or go to bat for our aados culture have no business trying to act as an authority on it.
The link you posted spoke about the differences between how wealthy Africa immigrants are treated and poor ones. You realize their are differnce in systemic racism to how black men are treated and black women are does that now invalidate them being black? How about the differences between how black gays are treated in the work force? Does invalidate their claim to being ADOS?
Except the that quote itself had nothing to do with the difference between rich or poor African immigrants. And everything to do with the difference in perception of Africans and AADOS. When the ws barber told him he didn't cut n**** hair, he said "I'm an AFRICAN, not a n****", not "Im an wealthy man, not a n****", not "I'm a diplomat, not a n****", but he emphasized his being a continental Africa to differentiate himself rom aados, because HIS ethnicity was the most important demarker, not his wealth or job.
Your last paragrap is hilariously stupid. You could literally make the same argument for anyone that doens't the stereotypical mold of what they consider "black"
Yeah, the word you're looking for is CULTURE. Maybe look it up and get familiar with it or something. It's what you keep trying to disassociate from our identity as if we're just a bunch of same-skin-colors walking around without our own set of traditions, beliefs, mannerisms, sensibilities, and value system.
Anybody who came up in the aados community whether they be male female straight or not would be inundated with it. And yes, it *IS* easily noticeable by outsiders white or not.
But, again I don't place too much stock into how outsiders view us anyway, because I'm actually from this. Not someone looking in from the outside.
