Just trying to get our Coli Rating Up - Miami Heat Season thread 2015/16

[OfTheCross]

Right now they should be better. Year after year with or without Lebron this team loses games to teams they have no business losing games to. It's not due to being a lesser talented team, shyt like rotations, defensive schemes, offensive playcalling, ect are all on the coach. This team has lost more games based off SIMPLE substitutions than any team I have ever seen sincevSpo has been the coach.

From games in 09 where u have Haslem defending the rim and Rondo getting a wide open alley oop to games now where u adjust to bottom tier teams insted of making them adjust to you, dude is fukkin awful. Always has been and always will be.

Tell me why Udrih is getting more OF than STAT and Birdman? PLEASE give me a good reason bruh. U think he actually brings more to his poilsition than the others? It's dumb ass bullshyt that shoulda got him fired before Bron even showed up, shyt has been the same for damn near a decade with no change.

SIMPLE shyt MY nikka, THAT'S WHY I GET SO MAD AT DUDE. Whiteside literally shuts the paint down. But yet this fukk ass coach will play small against the worse team in the NBA cause he has no identity as a coach. U think Pop gone go small against the fukkin Nets or some shyt if they take Lopez out? fukk nah. Cause his identity as a coach lets him know where the talent on his team is and how and when to use it.

fukk Spolstra. If Whiteside leaves cause of this fukk nikka, I'm gone be pissed bro smh.

I'm not gonna reply to everything you said cause I kinda just skimmed it.

But your accusations of him losing games based of simple substitutions are unproveable. Also, you claim he has no identity, as if the Heat aren't a defense 1st team like always since Riley came in.

You say he's not a good coach but he found a way to control LBJ when no one could in the past, make him go in the paint when no1 could in the past, create an offense with players that didn't necessarily compliment eachother, etc.

You're the type of dude to give the coach no credit for the 3 consecutive wins..but if they lose, it's all his fault

 

[Biscayne]

Good win. I missed it......

 

[Goatpoacher]

It's about the team and winning games. This team has underachieved every single year since he has been the coach. fukk that Asian fakkit

Yep.

 

[WaddupDoe!]

Hassan Whiteside isn't worried about spotty playing time: 'I was at the YMCA 2 years ago.'

 

[prophecypro]

Wait... So mofos can't trail in a game anymore?

shyt looked bad when I wrote that, they were down double digits early

 

[Biscayne]

Why the Heat are better defensively without the NBA's best shot-blocker on the court

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

Hassan Whiteside isn't worried about spotty playing time: 'I was at the YMCA 2 years ago.'

his demeanor when he gets subbed out says otherwise. dude just aint tryin to be seen as a troublemaker cause he knows he's gettin paid this summer.

 

[Draje]

I like how aggressive Bosh looked...it reminded me of Toronto Bosh where he was constantly in attack mode. I'm also shocked that Bosh is still shooting 37% from deep while shooting 4 a game.

I liked Wade, Whiteside, and Green as a closing unit.

Wade and Whiteside combo is very hard to stop because Wade's sleight of hand and situational awareness is still amazing, especially in the 4th quarter. It's very hard to stop the Wade / Whiteside PnR with just two defenders.

Despite being a very slow paced team with awful overall three point shooting...we're still in there as one of the better teams in the league.

I think we'll be very playoff deadly when the game slows dow and becomes much more half-court oriented.

Also, our defensive intensity is no joke when our players show up. I love how this team can turn it on, mid-game, like we couldn't last year.

Spo would be amazing as a defensive coordinator because he's really able to get players to buy into our defense first philosophy.

 

[havoc]

Right now they should be better. Year after year with or without Lebron this team loses games to teams they have no business losing games to. It's not due to being a lesser talented team, shyt like rotations, defensive schemes, offensive playcalling, ect are all on the coach. This team has lost more games based off SIMPLE substitutions than any team I have ever seen sincevSpo has been the coach.

From games in 09 where u have Haslem defending the rim and Rondo getting a wide open alley oop to games now where u adjust to bottom tier teams insted of making them adjust to you, dude is fukkin awful. Always has been and always will be.

Tell me why Udrih is getting more OF than STAT and Birdman? PLEASE give me a good reason bruh. U think he actually brings more to his poilsition than the others? It's dumb ass bullshyt that shoulda got him fired before Bron even showed up, shyt has been the same for damn near a decade with no change.

SIMPLE shyt MY nikka, THAT'S WHY I GET SO MAD AT DUDE. Whiteside literally shuts the paint down. But yet this fukk ass coach will play small against the worse team in the NBA cause he has no identity as a coach. U think Pop gone go small against the fukkin Nets or some shyt if they take Lopez out? fukk nah. Cause his identity as a coach lets him know where the talent on his team is and how and when to use it.

fukk Spolstra. If Whiteside leaves cause of this fukk nikka, I'm gone be pissed bro smh.

You are telling truth, breh. Even in are championship runs, Coach Spo would set-up a small ball line-up with Battier playing the 4 Battier used to get lit up on defense trying to the guard PF position. Till this day Spo running small line-ups when he has a deep front-court. He doesn't need to keep rotating Bosh and Whiteside all the time at center. The result of his stupid rotation has limit Whiteside's minutes and made us vulnerable in defensive end when teams are attacking the paint while Whiteside and Birdman warming up the bench. Spo, have me wondering what's wrong with a Birdman and Stoudemire in the second unit. Both of these players are talented and athletic. Birdman could provide us more interior defense while Stoudemire can produce more points from the bench and both of these players can rebound. We have no business running a small line-up. Opposing teams should be adjusting to us, not the other way around. Spo needs to go or hire an offensive coach to fix up his retarded offense. We are in the bottom totem pole in scoring(26th place in the league) and assists (25th place in the league) and 22nd in rebounds with a talented front-court. That shyt made no fukking sense that we are this bad offensively and weak on the boards.

 

[Draje]

Why the Heat are better defensively without the NBA's best shot-blocker on the court

I agree with a lot of what was said but Whiteside's shot blocking is bigger than his numbers because he actively deters people from even coming near the paint.

That being said, his PnR defense has been a weakness because he almost always scoots back to stop drives or set up for rebounds and teams will just force us into a shootout that we're too slow to win.

The best thing about this is we're still not on the same page yet but we're still a good team with the potential to be great. Our defense is stifling but it can still get better.

 

[Biscayne]

You are telling truth, breh. Even in are championship runs, Coach Spo would set-up a small ball line-up with Battier playing the 4 Battier used to get lit up on defense trying to the guard PF position. Till this day Spo running small line-ups when he has a deep front-court. He doesn't need to keep rotating Bosh and Whiteside all the time at center. The result of his stupid rotation has limit Whiteside's minutes and made us vulnerable in defensive end when teams are attacking the paint while Whiteside and Birdman warming up the bench. Spo, have me wondering what's wrong with a Birdman and Stoudemire in the second unit. Both of these players are talented and athletic. Birdman could provide us more interior defense while Stoudemire can produce more points from the bench and both of these players can rebound. We have no business running a small line-up. Opposing teams should be adjusting to us, not the other way around. Spo needs to go or hire an offensive coach to fix up his retarded offense. We are in the bottom totem pole in scoring(26th place in the league) and assists (25th place in the league) and 22nd in rebounds with a talented front-court. That shyt made no fukking sense that we are this bad offensively and weak on the boards.

Playing Battier was the right move in the LBJ era. Small-ball is what got us those 2 titles. Birdman isn't quick enough at this stage, and Stoudemire struggles defensively. We're playing all these quick teams with all those guards and shooters, and sometimes you just gonna match up with quicker, smaller defenders. I could easily see Stoudemire or Birdman getting toasted. Those two aren't big enough that they'll take complete advantage of the opposing teams smaller line-up. Whiteside? Yes. Those other two? No. And even with Whiteside, he still has some defensive inefficiencies he needs to polish up on such as rotations, PnR defense, etc. I don't think Spo is a buffoon, he see's what's up, even though it may seem frustrating to our eyes.

 

[Draje]

You are telling truth, breh. Even in are championship runs, Coach Spo would set-up a small ball line-up with Battier playing the 4 Battier used to get lit up on defense trying to the guard PF position. Till this day Spo running small line-ups when he has a deep front-court. He doesn't need to keep rotating Bosh and Whiteside all the time at center. The result of his stupid rotation has limit Whiteside's minutes and made us vulnerable in defensive end when teams are attacking the paint while Whiteside and Birdman warming up the bench. Spo, have me wondering what's wrong with a Birdman and Stoudemire in the second unit. Both of these players are talented and athletic. Birdman could provide us more interior defense while Stoudemire can produce more points from the bench and both of these players can rebound. We have no business running a small line-up. Opposing teams should be adjusting to us, not the other way around. Spo needs to go or hire an offensive coach to fix up his retarded offense. We are in the bottom totem pole in scoring(26th place in the league) and assists (25th place in the league) and 22nd in rebounds with a talented front-court. That shyt made no fukking sense that we are this bad offensively and weak on the boards.

We're the slowest paced team in the league (It's why we hold our opponents to the 2nd lowest Points per Game and why are scoring, rebounding, and assist stats will typically be low. Slower pace equals less opportunities.

STAT isn't there defensively. He's not good enough at scoring now to make up for his defense. Our team is built defense first so a weak link in our defense is disastrous. He's pretty much there as insurance for a Bosh and McRoberts insurance.

And our best defense is when Bosh is center because mobile bigs do wonders for team defense.

I mean, you're bringing up Battier getting lit up but it worked because Battier did good enough defense plus spaced the floor well enough that we were able to pretty much outmatch it.

We usually had a top tier defensive team throughout most of the championship years.

Spo is, on average, a great defensive coach.

He makes boneheaded decisions but he's still really, really good at developing players defensively. We just need help on offense lmao

 

[Draje]

Playing Battier was the right move in the LBJ era. Small-ball is what got us those 2 titles. Birdman isn't quick enough at this stage, and Stoudemire struggles defensively. We're playing all these quick teams with all those guards and shooters, and sometimes you just gonna match up with quicker, smaller defenders. I could easily see Stoudemire or Birdman getting toasted. They aren't good enough that they'll take complete advantage of a smaller line-up. Whiteside? Yes, those other two? No. And even with Whiteside, he still has some defensive inefficiencies he needs to polish up on such as rotations, PnR defense, etc. I don't think Spo is a buffoon, he see's what's up, even though it may seem frustrating to our eyes.

Truth. Battier was, in a way, a sacrificial lamb. He's good enough at defense to compete, he helped contain PnR threes and passes, and he was just asked to bear with it if a Z-Bo or Blake just one on ones him.

Why? Because that concession doesn't matter if Battier can also space the floor for three or open up lanes for Lebrob to score while being just good enough to not make it easy for opposing PFs in Iso / post up situations.

It's losing a battle for the sake of the war.

 

[Biscayne]

Truth. Battier was, in a way, a sacrificial lamb. He's good enough at defense to compete, he helped contain PnR threes and passes, and he was just asked to bear with it if a Z-Bo or Blake just one on ones him.

Why? Because that concession doesn't matter if Battier can also space the floor for three or open up lanes for Lebrob to score while being just good enough to not make it easy for opposing PFs in Iso / post up situations.

It's losing a battle for the sake of the war.

Exactly. Battier would hit open 3's at an efficient clip, compared to the two's the big that he would guard would hit. Battier was such a good enough and worth defender. He made the right defensive plays at the right time, no matter how much he'd get torched early on. He was so efficient with his game, and we could live the moments in which he got torched. His defense was good enough, considering the opponents we faced on those two title runs(Paul George, KD, Timmy D).

 

[Alexander The Great]

yeah, see this is part of the reason you don't trade rio for a bag of peanuts