hoodheronova
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what was the argument again?
Justice Scalia Suggests Blacks Belong at "Slower" Colleges
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Some will never understand this concept. Anyone thinking they will just waltz through a doctorate in psychology or even something like sociology are in for a rude awakening. Its different from the technological sciences, but relevant. Besides public legitimazation coming later in such fields I think the pseudoscience the media has engaged in recently has many thinking they are amateur psychologist/ Little known fact, Economics is a sociological field that sought formal professional and academic level legitimization.
someone commented "who the fukk goes to uni of Texas to become a phD in the first place"
was just saying, well it has top 10 graduate programs and along with Texas A&M are the go to "connections" schools in the south central US, hence UT being a long battle ground for Affirmative Action. Even before the Top 10% admissions program, whites and Asians have kept UT in court over admissions policies.
NobodyReally
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Cacs in being racist shocker!!
The sooner we stop giving a damn what they think about us the better
You're seriously suggesting we ignore the racist comments of a Supreme Court Justice that will decide on a landmark policy that will effects the admissions of thousands of black students for years to come? lol. 
One sentence you are complaining about how blacks didn't have access to the education and wealth of whites, which has limited their economic and educational success. The next sentence you are complaining that someone has a solution that takes this into account, and doesn't want to just throw generally-worse-educated blacks into the same schools, so politicians can brag about how many black people are in universities, where they wont learn as effectively and will get a $50k receipt (a degree), instead of a working education and a job.It's best to keep the negros separate
For their own benefit of course
Justice Scalia suggests blacks belong at"slower" colleges
Justice Scalia Suggests Blacks Belong at "Slower" Colleges
Yes, he really said that.
—By Stephanie Mencimer
Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia AP Photo/Jim Mone
During oral arguments in a pivotal affirmative action case on Wednesday morning, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia raised the suggestion that African American students might belong at less rigorous schools than their white peers and that perhaps the University of Texas should have fewer black students in its ranks.
Scalia's comments came during arguments in Fisher v. University of Texas, a case over whether the university's use of race in a sliver of its admissions decisions is constitutional. The University of Texas at Austin is being challenged over its use of race in admissions decisions for about 25 percent of its freshman class. About 75 percent of the students at UT-Austin are admitted through what's known as the Top Ten Percent program, in which any student graduating within the top 10 percent of his or her class is guaranteed admission, regardless of race. The other 25 percent are admitted via a "holistic" process that takes race, and other factors, into account. It's the "holistic" program that Abigail Fisher—who was denied admission for the university in 2008—is challenging.
The University of Texas has determined that if it excluded race as a factor, that remaining 25 percent would be almost entirely white. During the oral arguments, former US Solicitor General Greg Garre, who is representing the university, was explaining this to the justices. At that point, Scalia jumped in, questioning whether increasing the number of African Americans at the flagship university in Austin was in the black students' best interests. He said:
There are those who contend that it does not benefit African Americans to get them into the University of Texas where they do not do well, as opposed to having them go to a less-advanced school, a slower-track school where they do well. One of the briefs pointed out that most of the black scientists in this country don't come from schools like the University of Texas. They come from lesser schools where they do not feel that they're being pushed ahead in classes that are too fast for them.
He went on to say, "I'm just not impressed by the fact the University of Texas may have fewer [blacks]. Maybe it ought to have fewer. I don't think it stands to reason that it's a good thing for the University of Texas to admit as many blacks as possible."
After a comment like this, Court watchers will really be looking forward to his opinion in the case.
This is how hypersensitivity to racism is making politics relating to black people completely asinine and impossible to fix. Any time someone wants to do something good for black people, you call him a racist or some shyt just for calling a spade a spade.... for saying THE SAME shyt you are saying (blacks are worse educated on average), only he is actually able to connect the dots and not look for reasons to get offended over nothing / over you taking quotes basically out of context. Over "HE CALLED BLACKS SLOW!
" .... no, he fukking didn't, learn what context means and stop shamelessly misquoting people like this.You think you are an ally of progress with all these false 'gotcha' allegations of racism, really you are doing more to hold back progress than racists themselves. Average people don't become racist after hearing a KKK speech, they become racist because people like you push them away by telling them they are scum every time they bring up race at all, even when they are trying to help. It's not hard to imagine how this happens. If your white and your only encounter with a group of black people in your entire life is them shutting down your non-racist ideas as "racist", then being told you are a white devil for not killing cops, what do you honestly expect them to come away with?
Theres nothing racist about anything he said. Stop using the word racist for anything you don't like that involves 2+ races.
He's literally saying Black students are too dumb for their institutions.
This is how hypersensitivity to racism is making politics relating to black people completely asinine and impossible to fix. Any time someone wants to do something good for black people, you call him a racist or some shyt just for calling a spade a spade.... for saying THE SAME shyt you are saying (blacks are worse educated on average), only he is actually able to connect the dots and not look for reasons to get offended over nothing / over you taking quotes basically out of context. Over "HE CALLED BLACKS SLOW!
bytch just shut the fukk up already.
Nope, that is just what you read into his quote because you are hypersensitive to racism.
What he was saying was "blacks were discriminated against historically, our lower income public schools, of which most of the black race attends, are failing, the SYSTEM is failing the kids, and as a result the US is not preparing black people for the Universities we are throwing them in with little regard to how they will do after college"
Hes not saying blacks are inherently dumb, hes saying America has failed in preparing them for college, and there is a much better option for black students, considering this reality.
I hated college classes for the simple fact that every time I had to take an exam, the cac professors and their assistants were watching me like a hawk. They were convinced I was going to cheat, which implies that they think i'm too dumb or inclined to be a cheat inherently because i'm black.
I called one of them out on it and they did the typical "deny till you die" response they have when they get called out on their racism. I complained to the department and threatened to report them to the dean and to the media if I found out they're doing the same shyt to other black students.
I called one of them out on it and they did the typical "deny till you die" response they have when they get called out on their racism. I complained to the department and threatened to report them to the dean and to the media if I found out they're doing the same shyt to other black students.
I realize this happens, but do we have anything statistical to back the claims of blacks struggling at the top universities, relative to the amount of black students who are doing well in life and never would have gotten the chance if not for AA. Funny how you never hear the success stories of AA 
. Most black students who go to the top universities whether or not they were a product of AA WANT to go there to succeed and learn so I want to see just how big of an issue blacks being behind in these universities really is. Like most things when it comes to blacks as presented to white america, it's most likely overblown to fit an agenda. Ironically it was a white girl who brought this case to the Supreme Court by and large the biggest benefactors of Affirmative Action.
. Most black students who go to the top universities whether or not they were a product of AA WANT to go there to succeed and learn so I want to see just how big of an issue blacks being behind in these universities really is. Like most things when it comes to blacks as presented to white america, it's most likely overblown to fit an agenda. Ironically it was a white girl who brought this case to the Supreme Court by and large the biggest benefactors of Affirmative Action.How did you even get that out of his comment, and what makes you think he's somehow an ally to Black people? Dude made no mention of any of these things, all he said was they come from bad schools so you might as well send them to bad universities. And what the hell is "hypersensitive to racism"? Is that the term white supremacists use now?
I realize this happens, but do we have anything statistical to back the claims of blacks struggling at the top universities, relative to the amount of black students who are doing well in life and never would have gotten the chance if not for AA. Funny how you never hear the success stories of AA
No offense, but there is a ton of evidence showing exactly what you are mocking/doubting., this is obvious and well known to anyone paying any attention to Affirmative Action at all.
- Black college freshmen are more likely to aspire to science or engineering careers than are white freshmen, but mismatch [affirmative action acceptants] causes blacks to abandon these fields at twice the rate of whites.
- Blacks who start college interested in pursuing a doctorate and an academic career are twice as likely to be derailed from this path if they attend a school where they are mismatched.
- About half of black college students rank in the bottom 20 percent of their classes (and the bottom 10 percent in law school).
- Black law school graduates are four times as likely to fail bar exams as are whites; mismatch explains half of this gap.
- Interracial friendships are more likely to form among students with relatively similar levels of academic preparation; thus, blacks and Hispanics are more socially integrated on campuses where they are less academically mismatched.
NobodyReally
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It is racist to imply that the standards at UT should be correlated to competence and intelligence. It is also racist to imply that less competitive schools are "slower" because they enroll more blacks. His rubrics for intelligence are HIGHLY contested with empirical data that proves standardized test scores are MORE correlated to SES than actual performance and retention, ESPECIALLY for blacks. UT standards have also historically been adjusted to the cut-off scores of Blacks as a means to exclude them in order to appease alumna. Go kick rocks with your bullshyt apologist
for Scalia.
