Kanye: Black Revolutionary Jay Z: Tom

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if you can't seem the similiarities between a successful drug dealer and being a business man (also the transition from drug money into legal money) then you just don't have the mentality to be successful or a boss.
 

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Why not emphasize his business savvy form all the years he owned a record label?

Yet, he keeps bringing up something he did 30 years ago. AND THEN HAS THE AUDACITY TO SAY IT WILL HELP HIM AS A SPORTS AGENT TO A CROWD OF WHITE PEOPLE :dwillhuh:

All the years??

He's being honest...his business savvy comes from his drug dealin past...if that honest statement makes him a shuckin and jiving c00n then heeyy do u :manny:

Oh he's supposed to hide the dark secrets of his past cuz he's speakin to cacs?? huh???

nikka stop it...

Listen to early Hov..Hov always presented the business savvy it takes to survive in the drug game and his knowledge in the aspect

RapGame/Crack Game :blessed:

Truth is that his drug dealin past will help him in the sports agency game the same way it helped him in the music industry
 

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if you can't seem the similiarities between a successful drug dealer and being a business man (also the transition from drug money into legal money) then you just don't have the mentality to be successful or a boss.

Who said that? It's been 30 years since Jay Z dealt drugs, breh. Jay Z has since run restaurants, clubs, owned sports team, executive produced albums, owned clothing and record labels. Why mention this as the one thing that gave you your business acumen? Especially to a room full of Cacs:patrice:



If you can't see that he is pandering and c00ning as the White billionaire house nikka well :yeshrug:
 

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No he said ''i was a drug dealer.'' Jay z is already world famous for being the former drug dealer turned rapper/mogul married to Beyonce, so what's the problem? If Jay-z is an uncle tom for promoting a negative image of black men then so is Tupac :ehh:
 

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Throwing temper tantrum and sayin a bunch of sht just to hear urself is not being a revolutionary

Its just merely moving on emotion and without wisdom

Kanye carries himself like a child

Jay z carries himself like a man

Very well said.

I think people are confusing someone being loud as someone making more of a difference. You want to see a man who is crushing business and entertainment? That's Jay-z. For every whiny 'they took my words out of context' lines we get from Kanye we get major business moves from Jay-z. You tell me what is thumbing your nose to racist white people more....roughing up paparazzi or starting companies that generate millions?
 

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Why mention this as the one thing that gave you your business acumen? Especially to a room full of Cacs:patrice:

So you feel that because it's a room full of cacs, he should change who he is, be dishonest, and present a squeaky clean image, just so the cacs don't look down on him for what he actually came from? :comeon:
 

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if you can't seem the similiarities between a successful drug dealer and being a business man (also the transition from drug money into legal money) then you just don't have the mentality to be successful or a boss.

Yeah but the same similarities exist between being a successful record exec and being a good business man..But being the president of Def Jam doesn't sound as "cool" as being a dope boy.. Even if its a position of more accomplishment and responsibility... What appears to be clear is that as a 44 year old man Jay still sees being a drug dealer as something "cool" or to be proud of...

Also the "drug dealing made me good at budgets" logic can also be used by a 10 year old that started a lemonade stand to save for a bike... But again, thats not as sexy as being a drug dealer...


But out of respect for Jay and his contribution to the culture I'm going to wait to read the full statements in context before passing total judgment...

:whew:
 

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Sold out your whole race and UOENO

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Very well said.

I think people are confusing someone being loud as someone making more of a difference. You want to see a man who is crushing business and entertainment? That's Jay-z. For every whiny 'they took my words out of context' lines we get from Kanye we get major business moves from Jay-z. You tell me what is thumbing your nose to racist white people more....roughing up paparazzi or starting companies that generate millions?

They're not confusing anything at all. They like who they want to like & hate who they want to hate & will twist anything they see or hear to make sure it remains that way. They're just grabbing at straws to justify their stance that's all. Subjectivity at it's finest
 

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Yeah but the same similarities exist between being a successful record exec and being a good business man..But being the president of Def Jam doesn't sound as "cool" as being a dope boy.. Even if its a position of more accomplishment and responsibility... What appears to be clear is that as a 44 year old man Jay still sees being a drug dealer as something "cool" or to be proud of...

Also the "drug dealing made me good at budgets" logic can also be used by a 10 year old that started a lemonade stand to save for a bike... But again, thats not as sexy as being a drug dealer...


But out of respect for Jay and his contribution to the culture I'm going to wait to read the full statements in context before passing total judgment...

:whew:


i would say that the difference between lemonade stand and drug dealing has more to do with the amount of money you'r edealing with and not the sexiness of it.
 

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So...

@gatorking has retired his fukk Jay Z steeze...and Poitier seems to have taken up the mantle...

:lupe:

Is this thread some kind of subtle passing of the torch :ohhh:
 

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i would say that the difference between lemonade stand and drug dealing has more to do with the amount of money you'r edealing with and not the sexiness of it.

Jay Z was dealing dimes and nicks :stopitslime:
 
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