whats the point tho? When it comes to rapping, your only talent lies within ur self written bars/lyrics.
If he got a bunch of nikkas writing his raps, then he isnt a rapper....just a performer.
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If he got a bunch of nikkas writing his raps, then he isnt a rapper....just a performer.
Cuz "Kanye West" is a BRAND... no different then how Kelly Clarkson is a BRAND. They're entertainers... performers... lyricists & rapping only are terms that exist to give an artist credibility to the fans & the underground. It's not difficult to immitate an artist... if you sat down you too could probably write your own verse that would fit Kanye or Lil' Wayne or Jay-Z... it's one of the things someone like Rico Love is known for. He couldn't get it popping himself as an artist so he started selling verses to singers & rappers...
Only to Internet dudes & cats in the underground does the idea of a rapper writing the majority of their material actually matter. Bow Wow never wrote a verse as a youngster but none of his fans cared because they liked his music. People like Madskillz & Billy Bathgate were penning songs for some of your favorite artists back in the day... sometimes credited & sometimes not.
It's a business based on BRANDS which are built from popularity. A lot of artists tend to be heavily involved in their process of making a song but its very common for artists to take a verse someone else wrote for them, change a few lines, and spit it as their own. At the end of the day outside of purists & old school cats the fans don't care who wrote what as long as the final product is hot & labels don't care either as long as the final product is profitable & despite common belief these artists don't care as much as they used to either as long as they can get a check when it's all said & done...
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YES, did Sean write for Drake on Forever? My point exactly
No slight towards you, but if you really think a rapper wrote someone's verse just because it "sounds" like them.. then you have to be fukking stupid
fukk it, I'ma just say every verse that "sounds" like somebody else was ghostwritten
You know Jay really sounded like Nas on Dead Presidents 
Jimmy Jones probably wrote all of Cam's lyrics too Cyhi tha prince and pusha T.... I know for sure. Kudi too
Let me bring the facts
On College Dropout you have John Legend, Tony Willliams, Rhymefest, Bosko (who?), Brian Miller (producer), Ken Lewis (producer), Evidence.
Most of the cowriting was done by Legend and Williams, on hooks I assume. Nobody else wrote on more than one song.
But on the other albums, especially Graduation you can hear Big Sean spit some of those rhymes. CyHi has a lot of writing credits on Yeezus but that ramble, shouting flow is all Kanye. In fact, his style of spitting - quicker, angrier, less sing-songy, rambling tone, more sexual is something that started when his mother died before his Put On verse. So I don't think anyone writes full verses for him.
If you watch Cons interview he doesn't say he wrote verses or songs. Just lines.
A bunch of people wrote on 808's. Jeezy has a writing credit on Street Lights or something.
On College Dropout you have John Legend, Tony Willliams, Rhymefest, Bosko (who?), Brian Miller (producer), Ken Lewis (producer), Evidence.
Most of the cowriting was done by Legend and Williams, on hooks I assume. Nobody else wrote on more than one song.
But on the other albums, especially Graduation you can hear Big Sean spit some of those rhymes. CyHi has a lot of writing credits on Yeezus but that ramble, shouting flow is all Kanye. In fact, his style of spitting - quicker, angrier, less sing-songy, rambling tone, more sexual is something that started when his mother died before his Put On verse. So I don't think anyone writes full verses for him.
If you watch Cons interview he doesn't say he wrote verses or songs. Just lines.
A bunch of people wrote on 808's. Jeezy has a writing credit on Street Lights or something.
If Kanye had Diddy style ghostwriters. In his 9 year recording career someone would have come out and said they wrote "such and such song in entirety or verse". Closest thing is Jesus Walks where in Rhymefest's own words - Fest brought the sample. Fest & Ye wrote the first verse together. Fest wrote a second. Kanye wrote a third. Fest's verse gets the chop and there's the final product.
We've all seen Fade to Black. Kanye's clearly a creative dude. He has the flow for Lucifer for Jay and the "murder capital, where we murder for capital" line. He also comes up with the concept of Encore with the crowd effects and such. If he can do that for Jay-Z, i'm sure he can do it for his own albums.
Just use your brains.
We've all seen Fade to Black. Kanye's clearly a creative dude. He has the flow for Lucifer for Jay and the "murder capital, where we murder for capital" line. He also comes up with the concept of Encore with the crowd effects and such. If he can do that for Jay-Z, i'm sure he can do it for his own albums.
Just use your brains.
I'm not debating that he makes incredible music cause he does, but my boys was like he writes all his rhymes and I'm like no nikkas, he don't. And it's still my opinion that prodigy shook ones 2 verse is better than any ye verse ever
