Kanye West goes off on music producer Bob Ezrin via Twitter

[thatrapsfan]

Fake ass pretentious black people only praise "legendary" white artist because the media told you too. If the media didn't tell you certain white artist were legendary they wouldnt get the praise they get.

I like some of Pink Floyd's music but some black people just run with whatever the white media tells them is great music or whose music is exceptional even tho they don't actually like or listen to those artist.

I've seen black people say Elvis is a top 5 music artist of all time.

I can name 10 black artist better than Elvis. Just because the white media tries to act like he's a god in music people be like "I guess I'll roll with it because they said so "

The same white media that tried to say macklemore's album was better than GKMC.

We already know how much white people hate kanye so its hard taking some criticism of him from white people seriously, but they fact that he tried to praise macklmore's trash ass music over kanye is enough to show me his bias, possible racism, and hatred for kanye.

Hip hop fans really need to stop letting people who are not legit hip hop fans or don't come from the culture have a legit voice in hip-hop

Wu tang >>>>>>>> the Beatles

The irony is Kanye is the epitome of pretentious black dude who revers white names. He'll go back to praising obscure Basque fashion designers a day later.

 

[25YOUTHS!!]

Pretentious cac just talking shyt.
Real talk wtf is "his genre"?
Talking bout Kanye doesn't address social issues thru his music like Marshall and Macklamore.
Cac acting like Yeezy was Kanye's first album or some shyt.
Kanye had arguably one of the best 5 album runs in history
TBH I never heard of Bob Ezrin before this thread; dude needs to realize there's a huge segment of the population that dgaf about him. I could look up his credentials and be impressed I suppose but he doesn't come close to Kanye's impact on pop culture.
Dude seems to be talking down to not only Kanye but Hip-hop in general.
btw hhdx stepped up their layout game

 

[CrimsonTider]

it's like saying Elton Brand is better than Dirk Nowitzki

This comparison is horrible and wrong on so many levels

 

[Real N Quotes]

Kayne is the goat entertainer since Michael Jackson.

 

[hex]

I would agree to an extent. But I'm talking impact. Yes, some others may have done similar. But the impact that Kanye had by doing it, due to the impact he had on hip hop at the pop culture level, is what I'm referring to.

ATCQ and DLS were hip hop legends, but they did not have the same kind of impact as Kanye on pop culture in general.

Peace

You have no idea what you're talking about.

For one De La introduced skits to mainstream rap. It completely changed the composition of albums, for better or worse.

I like Ye just fine but he is (or was) the step child of the Native Tongue movement. And I'm at you giving Ye credit for shyt they did, 20 years before him....the first time, when it had never been done before.

If you want to give him credit for bringing that vibe back, cool....but he ain't innovated or originated anything. Dude is bits and pieces of 10-15 different artists.

Fred.

 

[Ian1362]

All Praise Be To Yeezus

Regardless of what you think about Kanye on a personal level, dude has changed the culture. And I'm not even talking about just hip hop culture. I'm talking about pop culture overall.

Dude took hip hop from being tough and over-masculine to being something that the average person could relate to in a more honest, genuine way. Dude paved the way for those who dominate rap today...Kendrick Lamar, J Cole, Drake. Without Kanye, the genre would not have had the palate for these rappers. No longer did you have to have a "rep" where you sold drugs, spent time in jail and possibly murdered people. No, you could be a college kid or a college dropout struggling to get over your ex who left you for the star football player on campus.

Dude changed the sound of hip hop....or should I say, he expounded it. People clowned him for 808 and Heartbreak, but without this sound, the hip hop/pop game would not have been so ready to embrace the biggest draw in hip hop right now, Drake. Hip hop has an expounded sound now because one of its biggest stars, Ye, was willing to own his art and push a new sound.

stfu herb

I can feel you writing this post like this

thru the screen. People who were born in 1997 making sweeping generalizations about hip-hop as if before Kanye was signed to the Roc, hip-hop was exclusively the realm of criminals and shiesty individuals

Tell me what criminal aptitudes is Chub Rock suggesting here?

Biz all about selling drugs right?

 

[Supreme HD]

No it wasn't. nikkas wanted to mix that whole album over for that nikka. shyt is clipping and all kinda shyt with all those random instruments and mediocre arrangements on purpose? Yea ok. Lol

Shut the fukk up

 

[Maschine_Man]

I would agree to an extent. But I'm talking impact. Yes, some others may have done similar. But the impact that Kanye had by doing it, due to the impact he had on hip hop at the pop culture level, is what I'm referring to.

ATCQ and DLS were hip hop legends, but they did not have the same kind of impact as Kanye on pop culture in general.

Peace

this is what you said....

"Dude took hip hop from being tough and over-masculine to being something that the average person could relate to in a more honest, genuine way. Dude paved the way for those who dominate rap today...Kendrick Lamar, J Cole, Drake. Without Kanye, the genre would not have had the palate for these rappers. No longer did you have to have a "rep" where you sold drugs, spent time in jail and possibly murdered people. No, you could be a college kid or a college dropout struggling to get over your ex who left you for the star football player on campus."



Kanye wasn't the first to do that. What Kendrick is doing isn't because Kanye laid the blueprint. That is giving far to much credit to Kanye...undeservingly.

tons of rappers were doing that before Kanye. ATCQ and DLS were just a few of the oens that were doing it.


Pharoahe Monch
Mos Def
Talib Kweli
Immortal Technique
Canibus
Del the Funkee Homosapien
MF DOOM
Common
The Roots
Arrested Development

Hell even Wu-tang members like GZA and INS were spitting real shyt with out all the drug/gangster talk like that.


Y'all dudes really gassin up Kanye's accomplishments severely take away from those artists that actually birthed Kanye himself....

 

[Maschine_Man]

ATCQ and De La didn't have that much influence Start listening to hiphop in the 00's brehs.

LOL, I was listening to hiphop when Tribe dropped their first album...but you keep kidding yourself like those dudes had no influence SMH...

 

[Maschine_Man]

I would agree to an extent. But I'm talking impact. Yes, some others may have done similar. But the impact that Kanye had by doing it, due to the impact he had on hip hop at the pop culture level, is what I'm referring to.

ATCQ and DLS were hip hop legends, but they did not have the same kind of impact as Kanye on pop culture in general.

Peace

the thing is, right now Kanye is the front runner of the same movement that took part in the 90's that was spread over multiple artists.

he didn't birth it, he didn't create it, he's just the most popular dude right now doing it, because he's one of the few out here thats not afraid to speak out, while the majority just follow along like sheep and just hop on new trends(even though he's doing just as much of that lately)


I'm not shytting on Kanye, I think he's been one of the most important figures in hiphop the last 10 plus years.
I just dont think its fair to take away the accomplishments of others while doing so.

 

[mcdivit85]

You have no idea what you're talking about.

For one De La introduced skits to mainstream rap. It completely changed the composition of albums, for better or worse.

I like Ye just fine but he is (or was) the step child of the Native Tongue movement. And I'm at you giving Ye credit for shyt they did, 20 years before him....the first time, when it had never been done before.

If you want to give him credit for bringing that vibe back, cool....but he ain't innovated or originated anything. Dude is bits and pieces of 10-15 different artists.

Fred.

I would agree with your overall point. Yes, other may have done some of those things first. Maybe all of them.

Many things have been done years before they became mainstream or status quo. But the masses don't remember who did it first. They remember who did it best and most impactfully.

Was Jordan the first to be great? Was he the first to win a dunk contest? Was he the first to be household name?

No, but did he have a much bigger impact on the game and it's relation to pop culture than any of those who may have come before him? Yes.

That's my point.

Peace

 

[thatrapsfan]

LOL, I was listening to hiphop when Tribe dropped their first album...but you keep kidding yourself like those dudes had no influence SMH...

Sarcasm.

 

[Maschine_Man]

Sarcasm.

That sarcasm meter just wasn't workin for a minute, I thought we was gonna have to come to blows you slandering ATCQ like that.

 

[mcdivit85]

the thing is, right now Kanye is the front runner of the same movement that took part in the 90's that was spread over multiple artists.

he didn't birth it, he didn't create it, he's just the most popular dude right now doing it, because he's one of the few out here thats not afraid to speak out, while the majority just follow along like sheep and just hop on new trends(even though he's doing just as much of that lately)


I'm not shytting on Kanye, I think he's been one of the most important figures in hiphop the last 10 plus years.
I just dont think its fair to take away the accomplishments of others while doing so.

Who said anything about taking away anyone else's accomplishments? Not I. I never said or intimated that he created everything he did. Obviously not, but he had the biggest impact in terms of doing those things on a pop culture level.

Peace

 

[Family Lives Matter]

I went from hating Twitter ye

To having the when I see he's started a rant