Kanye West goes off on music producer Bob Ezrin via Twitter

[Supreme HD]

That's the crazy shyt. All of a sudden this nikka got 3-4 classic albums and his discography fukkin with Michael Jackson's? And he's done all this other shyt first? I'm like it's gotta be kids I'm arguing with. Making these outlandish ass statements not rooted in reality.

Tcd, lr, 808s and mbdtf are classics

 

[jwinfield]

and you bytch ass niqqas still use CAC standards of awards/achievements as a measure.

Like Ye does

remember when fif used beefs to promote his albums back in the 2000s? this is ye's version of that....

6 months from now the nikka with be mingling with these same cacs he's gettin at...

If this same dude praised TLOP there'd be a big ass thread about it with people talking about Ye pushing the genre and how he has famous producers showing him love.

 

[HARLEM AL]

His impact made it more mainstream within hip hop itself. Most of the names you listed were never headline artists. Most of the names you listed never had the ear of pop culture. Some of them barely had the ear of hip hop fans...and yes, I'm including those who don't dig in the crates like some do here...because that's most of the people who listen to rap and hip hop. The mainstream listener.

So, they may have done many things first, but how many people, IN THE MAINSTREAM, associate those things with a Cannibus or Del the Funkee Homosapien? And by the way, who the f#ck is that anyway? My point exactly.

I don't mean to take away what they did and give to Kanye. No, read what I'm saying. I am saying that Kanye took those bits and pieces as a listener and had a much bigger impact in terms of his career and his impact on pop culture in general as an artist.

Not much different than Jay saying "you made it a hot line, I made it a hot song."

Peace

Yeah fam.. We going to need you to get all the way the fukk out of here...


This generation is fukking horrible b

 

[Unknown Poster]

 

[Unknown Poster]

Why do cacs who are clearly not part of the culture love sharing their 2 cents on hip hop?

Where does this smug arrogance come from? You never see Flava Flav or LL Cool J writing dissertations about their opinion on ACDC or Bob Dylan

YEP!

 

[The Bilingual Gringo]

Impact on pop culture

I'll always feel for those sheltered enough to where they think that Kanye really pushed the musical boundaries on things. He made some great music earlier on in his career and in the middle, but the praise he gets today is just

From a black production standpoint, people like Tricky, Roots Manuva, and Daddy G (from Massive Attack) are levels above Kanye sonically.

 

[BodeineBrazy]

bob ezrin has worked with pink floyd fukk is a kanye

fukk Pink Floyd, Kanye just as dope to OUR GENERATION.

And I love Pink Floyd. But let's their cultural relevance to me as a black man is not as powerful as Ye's.

Just cu Bob Ezrin worked with them doesn't make his opinion on HIP HOP relevant.

 

[Randoug]

bob ezrin has worked with pink floyd fukk is a kanye

Cac alert

 

[Unknown Poster]

That article is trash. Couldn't get past the first sentences. Love the obligatory shoutout to biggie and tupac. Caused that dude listens to Pac a pac stan could never publically hate on ye let alone elevate cacs above him.

Pac would of on Bob if he was alive.

 

[Unknown Poster]

fukk Pink Floyd, Kanye just as dope to OUR GENERATION.

And I love Pink Floyd. But let's their cultural relevance to me as a black man is not as powerful as Ye's.

Just cu Bob Ezrin worked with them doesn't make his opinion on HIP HOP relevant.

This.

 

[Insensitive]

He implied that Macklemore has been more important to the culture. He bigged up jay z but what this dude who clearly has no understanding of Kanyes history is that Kanye produced some of jays best songs and biggest hits

I mean,I don't agree that Macklemore is more relevant to Hip-Hop music.
I also feel Kanye's production and his image was pivotal a decade ago the problem here is
Kanye has only veered further and further away from a "Backpack rapper" to a baller without
the gangsta raps.
I mean this in particular,I agree with :

In the review of the endless new album, Caramanica wonders if “being slightly finished is the new finished.” And that just makes my blood boil. The great musicians, writers, poets, rappers, performers, dancers, players, conductors, directors and producers work all their lives for that one moment of complete perfection – that one brilliant performance, that one perfect song, that one enduring and life-altering work. 10,000 hours is peanuts in comparison to the real amount of time spent by true artists in their lifelong pursuit of excellence. But no one else that I have seen is this happy to have the audience watching all along the way. They are working to the culmination of something; to the exquisite feeling of completion that comes from working and reworking until that moment when their creation, or their performance, is as good as it could possibly be. This guy is just feeding the media machine and I’m not even certain to what end. Maybe he JUST needs the attention, like that flasher, and isn’t happy unless he’s the center of it.

I can completely understand this sentiment ! This is something that's rampant in contemporary Hip-Hop music. You've got fans who don't care about quality
so they'll have their favorite rapper put out 100 to 200 mediocre songs a year instead of 12 excellent ones. Then you've got rappers who aren't
concerned with being as good as possible at their craft because they already know they won't be rewarded for it, if in the unlikely event they blow up.
So they opt for cookie cutter, samey sounding songs with only a handful of topics covered. We're at the point that mediocre "lyrical" rappers are considered
stand outs (Hopsin, Childish Gambino etc.) because they're being compared to mediocre all around rappers (Lil b, Soulja boy etc.).

He doesn't stop there though, he highlights our hardcore celebrity culture that loves when Kanye says crazy shyt because they can manufacture click bait titles
that'll infuriate Kanye haters and further infatuate Kanye lovers.

The thing is to me, Kanye West fell back on the innovation that I loved on for example MyBeautifulDarkTwistedFantasy.
Ugly, muddy sounding mixing,banging drums, tons of space, guitar solo's, dope samples, tons of different ideas from the past and present even looks at what could potentially be Hip-Hops future. He even broke the typical mold of 3 to 5 minute songs opting for much longer songs that actually held your attention because of how
well they were crafted.

Then he turns around and becomes a trend chaser not a cutting edge boundary pushing artist but rapper #9999 that slaps on some auto-tune, cops
a beat from a popular producer AND proceeds to do something exceedingly mediocre with it. Why is this dude who could confront topics like mortality, being
doubted, being a walking,talking contradiction because he had a "Polo and a back" or chasing the "2 kids and a wife with a good job" fantasy lifestyle suddenly shying away from these topics and instead rapping what sounds like Brazzers scenes for like 50 minutes ?

More over why the fukk is this mediocrity getting rated so high? It's like Consequence and Rhymefest left, he started hanging with 20 somethings
and his musically became equally immature despite him ( or someone else ) writing considerably better as shortly as a few years ago.

I don’t even know why I’m so angry about this. Except maybe I lament for a world where being truly, world-shakingly excellent at anything – at least in the field of popular music if not elsewhere – is no longer absolutely necessary. You can be a star today just by creating a public life that people pay attention to. That’s it. All you have to do is be interesting or likable or shocking enough and you can have your 15 minutes of fame…even if that means that no one will remember you or what you’ve done in just a few years.

When I think about artists who have come and gone and how easy it is to get on depending on how low you'll go, it disgusts me.
Look at V-Nasty.
Look at Stitches.
Look at Riff Raff.
Look at iggy azalea.
Look at any number of "White Rappers" who don't take this shyt seriously as a craft or a form of expression and you see the white
reflection of Black rappers who also just see this as a hustle, as a paycheck or as I said in the Noisey/Vice etc.thread, you see people
who just see this as "pop music". So that they can churn out a bunch of funny hair color having, 70's era hard rock black leather wearing,
auto-tune gurgled lyrics speaking clones.

breh wildin

Wow fukk this old cac

That's a troll who changed his screen name to Bob Ezrin.

fukk Pink Floyd, Kanye just as dope to OUR GENERATION.

And I love Pink Floyd. But let's their cultural relevance to me as a black man is not as powerful as Ye's.

Just cu Bob Ezrin worked with them doesn't make his opinion on HIP HOP relevant.

Maurice White just died,if you want a cultural equivalent of a musician that's considered an
innovator and boundary pusher that should be relevant to black people THAT'S ONE.

I mean it's not even about "Pink floyd" really, it's about dudes who aren't touching their careers or
simply don't exist without them like a Kanye west (cause who would he sample ? ) getting
pushed into the really small club called "genius" because they sold a lot of records.

*** "Their" in this case being brilliant musicians of the past. Black, White or otherwise.

 

[Still FloW]

Why do cacs who are clearly not part of the culture love sharing their 2 cents on hip hop?

Where does this smug arrogance come from? You never see Flava Flav or LL Cool J writing dissertations about their opinion on ACDC or Bob Dylan

cause white devils think everything is in their rights to own or be a part of, thats why their dumb ass hates when people celebrate black lives, their pasty ass feel left out.. bunch of fakkits

 

[JustCKing]

and you bytch ass niqqas still use CAC standards of awards/achievements as a measure. so fukk outta here. and aren't you a Fab stan? you don't know good music anyway

Does this also include Kanye?

 

[JustCKing]

coli nikkas love c00nin when it comes to these old ass Cac rock artists

Should be ashamed of yourselves

Kanye's done the same before. I guess he should be ashamed too.

All you Uncle Tom ass nikka capping for whitey discust me go play in traffic you bytch ass yassa boss ass nikkas

Call Coli posters Uncle Tom's saying they are caping for whitey while defending Kanye West who has caped for whitey on numerous occasions. The same guy who said that he wanted to be Elvis and that himself and Justin Timberlake were the Michael Jackson and Prince of this generation. He even went as far to say, everybody wants to Michael Jackson, well, I want to be Elvis.

 

[joeychizzle]

Some valid points

talking about his kids tho
free yeezys

I'm finally starting to appreciate ye's madness