Kanye West makes white music for people who don't wanna listen to white music.

[Monster]

What is "white" lyrical content breh ?
I gotta hear this

You would have a better point if you just stuck to the musical aspect. This is lyrical angle sounds like it's gonna be some bs

The poster @NvrCMyNut just said that no one had the content of CD before it came out.

My point was i believe this content already existed in genres that were/are 'predominately white' . It's just masked with a black American/hiphop culture flair.

Example: All Falls down- "she has no idea what shes doing in college,... But she won't drop our her parents will look at her funny, .... Sophomore 3 years aint picked a career".

^^^ that's the type of content you'd hear on a green day album or something

But then he pulls it back and disguises it with a hip hop flair so people don't have to feel corny for feeling it.

"She says fukk it ill just stay down here and do hair, cause that's enough
money to buy her a few pairs of new airs".

So his main skill was realizing the content in the first shyt i quoted could have an audience for people who grew up on hip hop

 

[SirBiatch]

Say sampling curtis mayfield and marvin gaye is "Cac friendly" brehs.

His whole steeze on College Dropout, Late Registration, even Graduation is paying respects
to musicians he respects a great deal from Ray Charles to Michael Jackson to Marvin Gaye.

If anything his earlier music is a direct call back to 1960's/1970's/1980's Black America but this changed with 808's and Heartbreak and the album that came after that.

He (or someone on his team ) started sampling from rock, using production styles
from EDM etc. and added it into his Hip Hop. The soul and jazz samples left, the orchestra left, the bounce and swing he was known for started disappear in favor of something else.
This coincides with about the time his ego started to run out of control and he was looking for a private pornstar to marry (Amber Rose, Kim K etc.)

the usual "rambling juelz" from a Yeezy stan.

cacs listened to Marvin Gaye, Ray Charles and MJ, too. It's not what you sample, it's what you create with it.

nikkas forgot I got at Kanye and explained this thoroughly. Mobb Deep sample cac music and make it hip hop. Kanye will sample Black music and cac music and make it cac music.

:kattpimp: OP is a Liar!

1. 1. 
      New Slaves
      Kanye West
   1. 
      Lyrics
      My momma was raised in the era when
      Clean water was only served to the fairer skin
      Doing clothes you would have thought I had help
      But they wasn't satisfied unless I picked the cotton myself
      You see it's broke nikka racism
      That's that "Don't touch anything in the store"
      And this rich nikka racism
      That's that "Come in, please buy more
      What you want, a Bentley? Fur coat? A diamond chain?
      All you blacks want all the same things"
      Used to only be nikkas now everybody playing
      Spending everything on Alexander Wang
      New Slaves

ALL DAY nikka!

 

[Insensitive]

The poster @NvrCMyNut just said that no one had the content of CD before it came out.

My point was i believe this content already existed in genres that were/are 'predominately white' . It's just masked with a black American/hiphop culture flair.

Example: All Falls down- "she has no idea what shes doing in college,... But she won't drop our her parents will look at her funny, .... Sophomore 3 years aint picked a career".

^^^ that's the type of content you'd hear on a green day album or something

But then he pulls it back and disguises it with a hip hop flair so people don't have to feel corny for feeling it.

"She says fukk it ill just stay down here and do hair, cause that's enough
money to buy her a few pairs of new airs".

So his main skill was realizing the content in the first shyt i quoted could have an audience for people who grew up on hip hop

I don't think talking about normal everyday situations is "corny" in fact it humanizes rappers in my opinion and it's apart of the appeal
of several rappers before and after Kanye. And honestly I think your opinion stems from what I'm assuming is an introduction to and fandom
of Hip Hop that was/is mainstream. The problem with this is before Kanye there was De La Soul, Q-Tip, The Roots, Aceyalone, Myka Nyne,
Murs, Slug etc.

And personally I don't find his writing style "Corny".
When Common talks about how alcohol has a hold on him, that makes him HUMAN not a moralizing, condescending, "conshush Rappa" cliche.
When Kendrick talks about going "Too fast" with a girl and ending the show early that makes him, HUMAN.
When Mos Def talks about getting blown off/played by a woman who is flustered when she's introduced to him later, it adds humanity to
his rhymes that gets lost in the "Drugs, bytches, Hoes" or "Guvment, illuminati, Hotep" speech of other rappers.

Too me what Kanye did (in a mainstream sense at least....) was brilliant and this came at a time when Gangsta rap was practically
made of fukking teflon and talking "normal" things wasn't "cool". This was the polar opposite to "Many men" 50 cent or "The barrel in my apparel
can stop god...." Jay-Z or the brag ridden rhymes of other "Street" or "Gangster" rappers. And I'm not saying that to say Kanye
is a stranger to bragging cause he most certainly isn't.

With that said I'd say this sorta writing style is actually pretty common in a lot of African American Music and the pictures it can and does paint.
And it's likely one of the reasons that for example the Blues was able to have such crossover appeal in Britain. It had the music
obviously but lyrically it spoke to people thousands of miles away much like Hip Hop does in 2015.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I don't think talking about normal everyday situations is "corny" in fact it humanizes rappers in my opinion and it's apart of the appeal
of several rappers before and after Kanye. And honestly I think your opinion stems from what I'm assuming is an introduction to and fandom
of Hip Hop that was/is mainstream. The problem with this is before Kanye there was De La Soul, Q-Tip, The Roots, Aceyalone, Myka Nyne,
Murs, Slug etc.

And personally I don't find his writing style "Corny".
When Common talks about how alcohol has a hold on him, that makes him HUMAN not a moralizing, condescending, "conshush Rappa" cliche.
When Kendrick talks about going "Too fast" with a girl and ending the show early that makes him, HUMAN.
When Mos Def talks about getting blown off/played by a woman who is flustered when she's introduced to him later, it adds humanity to
his rhymes that gets lost in the "Drugs, bytches, Hoes" or "Guvment, illuminati, Hotep" speech of other rappers.

Too me what Kanye did (in a mainstream sense at least....) was brilliant and this came at a time when Gangsta rap was practically
made of fukking teflon and talking "normal" things wasn't "cool". This was the polar opposite to "Many men" 50 cent or "The barrel in my apparel
can stop god...." Jay-Z or the brag ridden rhymes of other "Street" or "Gangster" rappers. And I'm not saying that to say Kanye
is a stranger to bragging cause he most certainly isn't.

With that said I'd say this sorta writing style is actually pretty common in a lot of African American Music and the pictures it can and does paint.
And it's likely one of the reasons that for example the Blues was able to have such crossover appeal in Britain. It had the music
obviously but lyrically it spoke to people thousands of miles away much like Hip Hop does in 2015.

The thing many people forget is that most music lyrically when dealing with the most basic themes of life, are basically the same.

 

[SirBiatch]

I don't think talking about normal everyday situations is "corny" in fact it humanizes rappers in my opinion and it's apart of the appeal
of several rappers before and after Kanye. And honestly I think your opinion stems from what I'm assuming is an introduction to and fandom
of Hip Hop that was/is mainstream. The problem with this is before Kanye there was De La Soul, Q-Tip, The Roots, Aceyalone, Myka Nyne,
Murs, Slug etc.

And personally I don't find his writing style "Corny".
When Common talks about how alcohol has a hold on him, that makes him HUMAN not a moralizing, condescending, "conshush Rappa" cliche.
When Kendrick talks about going "Too fast" with a girl and ending the show early that makes him, HUMAN.
When Mos Def talks about getting blown off/played by a woman who is flustered when she's introduced to him later, it adds humanity to
his rhymes that gets lost in the "Drugs, bytches, Hoes" or "Guvment, illuminati, Hotep" speech of other rappers.

Too me what Kanye did (in a mainstream sense at least....) was brilliant and this came at a time when Gangsta rap was practically
made of fukking teflon and talking "normal" things wasn't "cool". This was the polar opposite to "Many men" 50 cent or "The barrel in my apparel
can stop god...." Jay-Z or the brag ridden rhymes of other "Street" or "Gangster" rappers. And I'm not saying that to say Kanye
is a stranger to bragging cause he most certainly isn't.

With that said I'd say this sorta writing style is actually pretty common in a lot of African American Music and the pictures it can and does paint.
And it's likely one of the reasons that for example the Blues was able to have such crossover appeal in Britain. It had the music
obviously but lyrically it spoke to people thousands of miles away much like Hip Hop does in 2015.

What's funny about this is that the same people who dikkrode over-the-top poppy gangsta rap were the first people to dikkride Kanye West for being "deep" and "normal", then turned around and started talking about how gangsta rap was fake and degrading. Meanwhile, the cats like us who were listening to the real shyt were "You're listening to Kanye because Jay-Z, a pop gangsta rapper, told you to listen to him. And Ye's flossing and calling women bytches just like the other pop gangsta rappers"

Anyway, whatever. Damage's been done

 

[Big Dick]

@Monster makes shytty posts for people who don't wanna read shytty posts

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

Kanye could've been so much more tho

 

[ZEB WALTON]

Yall really looking too hard into this...

 

[Mrl HiGrnd]

er. i like white music as well as far as that goes, but when black people who do white music get more praise than black people who stay within their tardition, its a problem. shyt, i fx with cac music beleive it or not. but they not better than black music. hell nah.

My bad bro I stand corrected

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

Ye speaks from the prospective of a cocky,self-admitted ignant nikka...he has done this on several songs. He constantly talks
- about wanting to be the greatest all time
-not afraid to shyt on white musicians at all
-said he the closest to MJ
-constant name dropping the most famous white celebs
-and how he and Kim stay making money.

All while getting booked at festival like Glastonbury,etc.


Dude trolled cacs by getting Paul Mccartney on a song too

 

[MikeyC]

Yeezus on the other hand was just Kanye riding the euro-rap techno wave with a handful of ghost written pro black songs to balance out the swag raps that made up most of the album

There was a Euro-Rap Techno wave?

If you think Yeezus is "swag raps with a handful of ghost-written pro-black songs" on it you clearly haven't listened to the album.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Ye speaks from the prospective of a cocky,self-admitted ignant nikka...he has done this on several songs. He constantly talks
- about wanting to be the greatest all time
-not afraid to shyt on white musicians at all
-said he the closest to MJ
-constant name dropping the most famous white celebs
-and how he and Kim stay making money.

All while getting booked at festival like Glastonbury,etc.


Dude trolled cacs by getting Paul Mccartney on a song too

 

[IllmaticDelta]

There was a Euro-Rap Techno wave?

 

[cartierhoe]

Ye speaks from the prospective of a cocky,self-admitted ignant nikka...he has done this on several songs. He constantly talks
- about wanting to be the greatest all time
-not afraid to shyt on white musicians at all
-said he the closest to MJ
-constant name dropping the most famous white celebs
-and how he and Kim stay making money.

All while getting booked at festival like Glastonbury,etc.


Dude trolled cacs by getting Paul Mccartney on a song too

Ye stay making cacs mad

Taylor Swift? lmao

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

There was a Euro-Rap Techno wave?

If you think Yeezus is "swag raps with a handful of ghost-written pro-black songs" on it you clearly haven't listened to the album.

I think he means that euro-pop synth,club hit type wave on some 'Starships' ,or 'Oh my Gosh' ,'Yeah 3x' type shyt, on some Diddy-Dirty Money,type shyt

I would say it was more of a mainstream wave...because that shyt seeped into r&b , and it seems more and more rappers want that 1 pop synth hit.(Drake,Sean,Rocky come to mind).