Karl Malone or Tim Duncan?

[360Waves]

Yeah let's just ignore the fact that Duncan was the defensive anchor during the 2002/2003 season and averaged 3.3 blocks per game in the playoffs.

And let's ignore the fact that I clearly said what Malone lacks defensively he makes up for with his offense. Timmy D only averaged 25 once in his entire career, Karl Malone averaged 25 or more 12 times. He went to the Finals multiple times with Utah so the notion that him being a defensive liability is somehow going to be a hindrance is a moot point. Quite frankly, it doesn't matter how many points the guy you're checking gets when you're guaranteed to double that total, if not triple it. Your mancrush Steph is the shining example of that, feasting on injured/injury replacement PGs all playoffs.

And while Karl Malone wasn't a great defender he wasn't a bad one either. His defensively inability is greatly exaggerated similar to the likes of DeMarcus Cousins.

 

[HoopLife]

And let's ignore the fact that I clearly said what Malone lacks defensively he makes up for with his offense. Timmy D only averaged 25 once in his entire career, Karl Malone averaged 25 or more 12 times. He went to the Finals multiple times with Utah so the notion that him being a defensive liability is somehow going to be a hindrance is a moot point. Quite frankly, it doesn't matter how many points the guy you're checking gets when you're guaranteed to double that total, if not triple it. Your mancrush Steph is the shining example of that, feasting on injured/injury replacement PGs all playoffs.

And while Karl Malone wasn't a great defender he wasn't a bad one either. His defensively inability is greatly exaggerated similar to the likes of DeMarcus Cousins.

This board does it a lot for some reason. If your not considered an elite defender like Duncan than you must be a horrible defender. As if there's no middle ground. Malone was average on Defense and being avg on defense is great when your scoring 30ppg

 

[malbaker86]

And let's ignore the fact that I clearly said what Malone lacks defensively he makes up for with his offense. Timmy D only averaged 25 once in his entire career, Karl Malone averaged 25 or more 12 times. He went to the Finals multiple times with Utah so the notion that him being a defensive liability is somehow going to be a hindrance is a moot point. Quite frankly, it doesn't matter how many points the guy you're checking gets when you're guaranteed to double that total, if not triple it. Your mancrush Steph is the shining example of that, feasting on injured/injury replacement PGs all playoffs.

And while Karl Malone wasn't a great defender he wasn't a bad one either. His defensively inability is greatly exaggerated similar to the likes of DeMarcus Cousins.

considering that Duncan only took 16 or more fga's per game just 6 times in his career and Malone did that every year he played except 3 of them, it's no coincidence that Malone would average more and viewed as the better scorer.

 

[Amphibious]

Stockton top 10 PG? He's like a top 5 IMO with his longevity and accomplishments

For sure. He might even be top 3 dead or alive.

1 John Stockton 15,806
2 Jason Kidd 12,091
3 Steve Nash 10,335
4 Mark Jackson 10,334
5 Magic Johnson 10,141
6 Oscar Robertson 9,887
7 Isiah Thomas 9,061
8 Gary Payton 8,966
9 ANDRE MILLER 8,437
10 Rod Strickland 7,987
11 Maurice Cheeks 7,392
12 Lenny Wilkens 7,211
13 Terry Porter 7,160
14 Tim Hardaway 7,095
15 Bob Cousy 6,955
16 CHRIS PAUL 6,944
17 Guy Rodgers 6,917
18 Muggsy Bogues 6,726
19 Kevin Johnson 6,711
20 Derek Harper 6,577
21 Nate Archibald 6,476
22 Stephon Marbury 6,471
23 John Lucas 6,454
24 Reggie Theus 6,453
25 Norm Nixon 6,386

^ ASSIST ALL TIME;

1 John Stockton 3,265
2 Jason Kidd 2,684
3 Michael Jordan 2,514
4 Gary Payton 2,445
5 Maurice Cheeks 2,310
6 Scottie Pippen 2,307
7 Clyde Drexler 2,207
8 Hakeem Olajuwon 2,162
9 Alvin Robertson 2,112
10 Karl Malone 2,085
11 Mookie Blaylock 2,075
12 Allen Iverson 1,983
13 Derek Harper 1,957
14 KOBE BRYANT 1,882
15 Isiah Thomas 1,861
16 KEVIN GARNETT 1,831
17 SHAWN MARION 1,759
18 Magic Johnson 1,724
19 Ron Harper 1,716
20 PAUL PIERCE 1,715
21 METTA WORLD PEACE 1,689
22 Fat Lever 1,666
23 Charles Barkley 1,648
24 CHRIS PAUL 1,639
25 Gus Williams 1,638

^ STEALS ALL TIME.

nikkas disrespectin the fukk out of Malone/Stockton.

The GOATS

If it wasn't for Jordan they woulda two peated and then some

That stone cold cac should get a humanity reward for preventing the double DUI woman b eater J-Kidd from crowning himself on top of the two categories.

 

[Amphibious]

I completely forgot about the Chinese giant

nikka nickname was "Dinosaur."

 

[Born2BKing]

How are we even talk about GOATcan and Child Molestor Malone in the same sentence?

Goatcan? That was lame brah

 

[KnickstapeCity]

Goatcan? That was lame brah

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

And let's ignore the fact that I clearly said what Malone lacks defensively he makes up for with his offense.Timmy D only averaged 25 once in his entire career, Karl Malone averaged 25 or more 12 times.

It doesn't work like that. Especially since in the 2003 playoffs, Duncan averaged 24.7 PPG on 52.9% shooting over 24 games - Malone only had a few postseasons in his career where he scored at a better rate and that was on 16 game, 11 game and 10 game stretches - less than half the game-volume of Duncan's 2003 playoff run. Malone wouldn't be able to make up the difference on the offensive end, especially since the offensive margin isn't a wide as you're making it out to be in the first place.

There isn't that much difference between the PPP during their respective career postseason runs -

24.7 PPG on 46%
21.2 PPG on 50%

He went to the Finals multiple times with Utah so the notion that him being a defensive liability is somehow going to be a hindrance is a moot point.

A moot point? You do realize we're working on a hypo of what he could accomplish in place of one of the greatest defensive anchors of all time right?

Quite frankly, it doesn't matter how many points the guy you're checking gets when you're guaranteed to double that total, if not triple it. Your mancrush Steph is the shining example of that, feasting on injured/injury replacement PGs all playoffs.

It does when we're talking about the value he has on either side of the court in comparison to Duncan.

And while Karl Malone wasn't a great defender he wasn't a bad one either. His defensively inability is greatly exaggerated similar to the likes of DeMarcus Cousins.

You do realize we're measuring his defensive worth next to Duncan right?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

This board does it a lot for some reason. If your not considered an elite defender like Duncan than you must be a horrible defender. As if there's no middle ground. Malone was average on Defense and being avg on defense is great when your scoring 30ppg

GTFOH with this smart dumb shyt. Learn to read before you post next time.

 

[Absolut da poet ®]

Someone at work was trying to argue Malone is better than Duncan . Some were saying it is a generational thing. I am 26 and I went with Duncan.

Is it 5 rings now... I lost count

Karl won more than 50 games for like an entire decade just to see Jordan remove his soul and run off with his ring into the sunset

Smh

 

[DrexlersFade]

Uh, he was still a big contributor in '99 and while he was in '03 he was still a starter giving you 2 blocks per game and a nice interior presence defensively--which at the time, was all they needed him to do. You're acting like I said Robinson would be there to contribute with the scoring load as well but I very specifically stated that Malone as a defensive liability would not matter because Robinson was there. That was it.

Yeah but you automatically said Malone would of won some chips with flabby D-Rob bottomline we can bring up Dave all we want Duncan was the man of those teams.Plus Mlaone played with a muthafukka who was 7'4 and averaged 4 blocks per game

 

[DrexlersFade]

Kobe.

FOH fukking Kobe nut lickers where did he even come from this thread about Duncan and Malone this fool said Kobe,but debate Duncan and Kobe and Kobe stans will say they played 2 diff. pos. you can't compare. i tell you what you can't compare

 

[The_Third_Man]

And let's ignore the fact that I clearly said what Malone lacks defensively he makes up for with his offense. Timmy D only averaged 25 once in his entire career, Karl Malone averaged 25 or more 12 times. He went to the Finals multiple times with Utah so the notion that him being a defensive liability is somehow going to be a hindrance is a moot point. Quite frankly, it doesn't matter how many points the guy you're checking gets when you're guaranteed to double that total, if not triple it. Your mancrush Steph is the shining example of that, feasting on injured/injury replacement PGs all playoffs.

And while Karl Malone wasn't a great defender he wasn't a bad one either. His defensively inability is greatly exaggerated similar to the likes of DeMarcus Cousins.

Exactly. Malone is the only big man beside Hakeem to be in the top 15 all time steals leaders. Not too bad for a supposedly average defender.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Exactly. Malone is the only big man beside Hakeem to be in the top 15 all time steals leaders. Not too bad for a supposedly average defender.

Is Malone's defensive worth comparable to Duncan's? If you're answer is no, than what's the point in arguing to what degree how 'good' he was on that side of the court?

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

You're referring to a HOF & arguably top 10 (definitely top 15) point guard of all time



I'm black and really don't even fukk with white people like that but

Keep shyt hunna you fukk nikka

How you gonna knock dude for disrespecting Stockton then turn around and do the same thing? Stockton is ARGUABLY top 10???