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Karl Malone or Tim Duncan?
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The_Third_Man
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didn't you just argue that "offensive margin isn't a wide as you're making it out to be"?
Deezy314619
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Malone. Only youngins would say Duncan. Malone is the best PF all time.
@Mephistopheles had hurt feelings so he had to re-up.
malbaker86
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Allen Iverson was one of the top steals per games leader in the league during his prime bruh yet NOBODY considered him a great DEFENDER.
That's because @360Waves is suggesting that what they offer on the offensive end isn't comparable - when in fact it is - especially if you compare their postseason production.
didn't you just argue that "offensive margin isn't a wide as you're making it out to be"?
Whats with all the ill will towards Karl
Reading these posts I'm sensing he has done something that I'm not aware of
Reading these posts I'm sensing he has done something that I'm not aware of
Whats with all the ill will towards Karl
Reading these posts I'm sensing he has done something that I'm not aware of
fukk lil girls and disown his kids.
Karl was actually a great, not good, but great m2m defender. His post D is the best I've ever seen, used to make people look foolish trying to back him down by pulling the chair, used his quick hands to rip his man, strong as an ox rarely giving up position. Gave TD some serious problems in that '04 WCSF
Problem is TD is a great post defender too and completely outclasses him as a team defender where he's an all time great. So the defense thing isn't something you want to bring up and then there's the offense where Karl seems to be overrated here. No way in hell is he in another class than Duncan offensively. Look at the drop from his regular season efficiency to playoffs and tell me there's not something wrong with that picture. Its one of the biggest declines you'll see from a supposed dominant scorer. He wasn't what his ppg averages would suggest and often failed to live up to his RS effectiveness on the next stage b/c he wasn't a truly great 1on1 scorer, a bit resemblant to David Robinson who had his own struggles in the postseason. And that's why guys like Dirk & Chuck despite not being as good defensively have cases over him. Far more reliable in the PS offensively
I'd take both of them over Karl personally. Big on postseason performances and those two consistently rose to a level that Malone did not as an offensive anchor. Would be willing to overlook his offensive shortcomings by comparison if he were a dominant defender like KG who wasn't a consistent takeover scorer himself, but that isn't the case. If you want to talk all time rather than prime though I can see strong reason for Karl over Chuck given the longevity
Problem is TD is a great post defender too and completely outclasses him as a team defender where he's an all time great. So the defense thing isn't something you want to bring up and then there's the offense where Karl seems to be overrated here. No way in hell is he in another class than Duncan offensively. Look at the drop from his regular season efficiency to playoffs and tell me there's not something wrong with that picture. Its one of the biggest declines you'll see from a supposed dominant scorer. He wasn't what his ppg averages would suggest and often failed to live up to his RS effectiveness on the next stage b/c he wasn't a truly great 1on1 scorer, a bit resemblant to David Robinson who had his own struggles in the postseason. And that's why guys like Dirk & Chuck despite not being as good defensively have cases over him. Far more reliable in the PS offensively
I'd take Karl over Barkley easily, but IDK about Dirk
I'd take both of them over Karl personally. Big on postseason performances and those two consistently rose to a level that Malone did not as an offensive anchor. Would be willing to overlook his offensive shortcomings by comparison if he were a dominant defender like KG who wasn't a consistent takeover scorer himself, but that isn't the case. If you want to talk all time rather than prime though I can see strong reason for Karl over Chuck given the longevity
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