Kawhi Leonard is the 2015 Defensive Player of the Year

[SCORCH]

I fully expect Draymond to have a MONSTER game tonight.....

Snub game finna be whoa

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Why didn't he ? RAPM says he's the best defender in the league and I agree

http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ratings/RAPM_2015.html

Green defended bigs, wings and PGs and was the defensive leader of the #1 defense in the league. He deserved it. Not taking anything away from what Kawhi accomplished this season, but it's befuddling that some voters didn't even have Green in their top three. He should have been in EVERYBODY's top three.

I can't fault Warriors fans and observers for feeling like Green got robbed here. He was the linchpin of Golden State's swarming switch-everything defense, whose ability to handle opposing guards in pick-and-rolls, hold up against burlier bigs on the block and track mobile floor-spacers out on the perimeter helped the Warriors' defense remain elite even with Bogut missing 15 games and playing just under 1,600 minutes. The Warriors' already No.-1-with-a-bullet defense (98.2 points allowed per 100 possessions) was even more ruthless with Green on the floor (96 points-per-100) and comparatively pedestrian without him (102.1 points-per-100, which would've tied for 12th among 30 NBA teams this season).


It wasn't just team success, either. Green was a supremely productive individual defender, too, falling just one rejection short of being the third player in the league to post at least 100 blocks and 100 steals this season, joining Davis and the Philadelphia 76ers' Nerlens Noel. He made life miserable on his opponents — nobody who defended at least 100 isolations allowed fewer points per possession than Green; he turned in a top-20 mark in defending the post despite giving up size and length every single night and forced turnovers on the league's third-highest share of opposing post-ups, according to Synergy Sports Technology's game-charting data. He was smart, he was mean, he was everywhere and — perhaps most importantly — he was available, suiting up for 15 more games and logging nearly 460 more minutes than Leonard.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-b...s-draymond-green-in-close-vote-163943224.html

That's why Draymond deserved it. Plus he got more first place votes.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

well deserved. one of my favorite players to watch. I'll never forget Lebron getting frustrated at the freethrow line when he looked over and saw Kawhi checking into the game

 

[Loose]

That's why Draymond deserved it. Plus he got more first place votes.

Draymond 11th in Rbs, 16th steals
5th in DRPM
11th in RPM
7th in WAR
4th in Defensive Rating
2nd in Defensive Win Shares

vs

Kawhi lead the league in steals per game at 2.3,
2nd in DRPM
2nd in RPM
7th in WAR (missing 18 games)
1st in Defensive Rating at 96.4
6th in Defensive Win Shares


stats speak for themselves

 

[Rigby.]

Well deserved. I thought he was gonna get snubbed like Duncan and Bowen did constantly

It definitely wouldn't have been a snub if he lost to anyone other than Gobert.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Draymond 11th in Rbs, 16th steals
5th in DRPM
11th in RPM
7th in WAR
4th in Defensive Rating
2nd in Defensive Win Shares

vs

Kawhi lead the league in steals per game at 2.3,
2nd in DRPM
2nd in RPM
7th in WAR (missing 18 games)
1st in Defensive Rating at 96.4
6th in Defensive Win Shares


stats speak for themselves

Why did you mention RPM? That's not a defensive stat.

Some of those metrics are fundamentally flawed, that they don't give you a complete picture of defensive impact. And are you really gonna reference steals?

When you put into perspective that Draymond was defending EVERY single position on the floor effectively; it's amazing he still rated so high, you'd think defending Cs who had 40lbs and at least a couple of inches on him, it would alter his statistical readings considerably. But they didn't.

Being the best defender on the #1 defensive team, playing 460 more minutes > the small margin between Leonard and Green on defensive metrics that are flawed.

 

[Da King]

Why did you mention RPM? That's not a defensive stat.

Some of those metrics are fundamentally flawed, that they don't give you a complete picture of defensive impact. And are you really gonna reference steals?

When you put into perspective that Draymond was defending EVERY single position on the floor effectively; it's amazing he still rated so high, you'd think defending Cs who had 40lbs and at least a couple of inches on him, it would alter his statistical readings considerably. But they didn't.

Being the best defender on the #1 defensive team, playing 460 more minutes > the small margin between Leonard and Green on defensive metrics that are flawed.

Stop crying like a bytch

 

[CantStop]

Draymond Green. players aren't losing sleep over getting defended by draymond green. FOH. I'm sick of hearing that bum's name.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Draymond Green. players aren't losing sleep over getting defended by draymond green. FOH. I'm sick of hearing that bum's name.

He's holding Davis to ridiculously low percentages when guarding him in this series. I'm sure AD is mindful whenever he sees Green is shadowing him.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

They need to change the voting system to just voting for ONE player only. Not giving lists of top three players or top five players, that way you cut down the margin of error to an absolute minimum. Winner = most votes. Second place = second most votes. Third place = third most votes.

http://official.nba.com/wp-content/...ensive-Player-of-the-Year-Results-2014-15.pdf - full list of everyone's votes.

 

[labelplant]

steve fisher stand up

King High Stand Up

 

[labelplant]

steve fisher stand up

King High Stand Up

Eric Wise was sick too and shout out Tony Snell

 

[labelplant]

Also, i guess no one is going to read this post since the thread is dying but I'm watching last night's memphis-portland game right now during half time and Green and Kawhi are nice but Tony Allen is the best defensive player and has been for probably a good part of his career

I remember him coming into games and getting some nice defensive rotations and steals his 2nd year in Boston so ya.

 

[labelplant]

I mean plus/minus stats CAN be deceiving BUT 5 years of data is overwhelming

EDIT:
Or better yet 4 years
http://bkref.com/tiny/hMpH3

 

[The War Report]

He's holding Davis to ridiculously low percentages when guarding him in this series. I'm sure AD is mindful whenever he sees Green is shadowing him.

Asik's bum ass is clogging the paint.