Kawhi Leonard out indefinitely due to partial acl tear

[Piff Huxtable]

Why are we talking about the Spurs here? It's not 2017, nobody cares.

 

[Kinguno]

The Spurs and Kawhi had both reached the point where neither one could move forward with the other.

Kawhi had played 9 games and then was out with an injury that was not getting any better because he had is own doctors treating him and NOT the Spurs doctors. Every single year Kawhi did not have his own medical team he played a vast majority of the games. First year he got his own medical team he played 9. Then wanted the supermax. This is bad business, it doesn't matter what the business is, you NEVER pay anybody the most money you can pay them when they have done the least amount of work for you. You won't be in any business very long operating that way. And the Spurs always took the stance that his quad issue was degenerative meaning it is only going to get worse over time. Seems like they were right since Kawhi did not play 1 back to back game for 3 straight seasons.

On the other hand, at the time Kawhi was easily the best "two way player in the game" if not the outright best player in the nba period. When you are at best the absolute best at what you do or at worst top 5 at what you do, you get paid the most money you can get paid point blank period end of discussion. He was the franchise player. He was the reason they didn't fall off a cliff after Timmy Tony Manu left. He was part of the reason why they were even able to get an elite free agent like LMA. He was the reason why they were championship contenders. He was the reason why the spurs only really needed to tweak the edges of their roster because every night they knew Kawhi was going to give them 20 something on extremely efficient shooting AND unless the other team had KD, Harden or Bron he was going to put that player in a strait jacket and for the most part any spurs game was going to be over somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd quarter where they go up by 12 and just put it on cruise control. He had been had his quad issue for years so what if it flared up again, you work through that for your star player. Uncle Dennis wanted a front office job, give him some useless shyt to do if it keeps Kawhi happy. The spurs made Kawhi's best friend an assistant coach you mean to tell me they couldn't give uncle dennis some in title only job and let him puff his chest out? If you Kawhi everybody else is getting paid don't matter if they hurt or not, so should I. Everybody else is able to put their friends and relatives on to some sort of job off of them being a great basketball player, so should I. Every other team is bending over backwards for the franchise player, so should mine. He proved it when he went to Toronto where the entire city was down to get on its knees and suck him off in front of camera's to get him to stay.

Spurs as a business can't be paying people the most money after they did the least work, it sets a bad precedent. Kawhi as a player can't be on a team who won't give him a super max deal over 1 injury filled year after all of the years he carried a roster that was stuck between end of their career HOF and rookie contract players drafted in the late 20's. In a situation like that a breakup is inevitable.

Clippers in a tough spot. They going to be on the hook to pay a guy 200 million who is racking up leg injuries...

The Spurs got lucky with Duncan like how the MAVS got lucky with Dirk. Those two “international” guys hid a lot of flaws but at the end of the day they got taken advantage of in ways that an American black star wouldn’t like Kobe. The Spurs knew they had to give a Kawhi a max from 2013 the supermax became a thing in 2017. They had already approached him about taking less (this is related Demar Derozen was a unrestricted free agent but was drinking that Kool-aid to the point that the dumbass didn’t meet with other teams and actually took even less on his deal when he got traded for Kawhi and Danny Green) before they won the title in 2014.

If Kawhi was going to take less and these other guys are already taking less where is that money going ? The Spurs were purchased in 1996 for 76 million in May of last year they were estimated to be worth 1.8 Billion. The **** family owns 40 percent of that but that’s not counting yearly revenue. The NBA has a salary cap minimum of 90% of the cap. He knew they didn’t want to pay him and he also knew they wouldn’t build a team to compete because they would use the excuse that certain guys are Spurs guys. Of all the top all-star game level guys only one I’ve heard of has mentioned playing for the Spurs and that Chris Paul on that ESPN decision show he did he actually ended up on the Rockets instead. Out west you had the Harden Rockets with CP3 and The Golden State Warriors with KD before you got to teams not at that level like the Trailblazers, OKC, Nuggets, and the Jazz. Kawhi was hurt you right but got hurt more with the ZaZa shyt.

YES you got a legitimate top five guy you bend over backward to give them that skin flute solo. Don’t disrespect him and his family. I listen to NBA podcasts and read articles the types of things that these people were saying about Kawhi and his family had to have come from somewhere. Similar to how this situation with the Mavs has popped up these white front office people think they are so smart they talk to other white people who think they are so smart and the exchange access, capital, and experience between each other on and off the record. If Bill Simmons is like the Joe Rogan of Basketball it wouldn’t be crazy to think he can give legitimacy to others.

They can frame the same guy with the only differences being name and the words they use and a guy is views as negative or positive.

Teams with people from the Spurs stay fukking up because they acknowledge that if they have to get a black guy they have to be a certain type a recent example is the Warriors drafting Wiseman because they liked that he met them without an agent which is weird when Bob Myers used to be an agent a good one. And years back when Presti fukked over The Thunder trading Harden to the Rockets like the two teams met in the playoffs and Pat Bev fukked Russ’s knee up they could’ve won that year maybe. But with hindsight articles about the OKC team come across as respectability politics let’s have these young black dudes come off as unthreatening as possible from wearing glasses when they can see and wearing long backpacks.

The Spurs lost and they will continue to lose moving forward the teams that will win multiple championships will be the teams with top five players coming together with the owner themselves and putting everything thing in the middle together for a five year window. Just like how the Nets did. The Warriors front office can claim half credit because they drafted them dudes and they weren’t predicted to what they accomplished and props to them not trading Klay for Kevin Love. The Heat get quarter credit because the LBJ,Wade, and Bosh set it up years earlier but the media give Pat Riley too much credit when he’s the one who ended up pushing all three out in some ways

The NBA has made it so windows to win will be much shorter with the league so deep no need to hate it but moving forward each title in my opinion will be harder to win than the one before if it makes sense

 

[reserved_one]

Ain’t nobody been safe this season…

This is all on Silver’s hands

 

[Nero Christ]

Looks to me like all that load management didn’t do shyt.

But everybody mad at San Antonio.
Ya hate to see it. But I’m saying tho…

like I was saying in the Sixers/Hawks thread...you can't play scared or sit out thinking if you play you're gonna get injured...the body is the body...it's fragile, shyt can go left at any moment for any reason...all these guys missed multiple games during the regular season and still ended up hurt in the playoffs. There's no rhyme or reason to injuries, they just happen...Cats talking about sit em during playoff games if they too scared to play in playoff games, which games will they be alright to play in?

 

[Lakerman0834]

Yes

Naw last asterisk year was 2015 when everyone was basically injured

 

[SadimirPutin]

Jazz still losing this game......

This playoffs has shown me dumb teams always rise to the challenge of being dumb

 

[duckbutta]

I thought I remember Kawhi and his team wanting the Supermax and the Spurs being reluctant to give it to him for a couple years, no?

I may be misremembering this situation, though

He wanted the supermax the same year he was out and only played 9 games ?

You giving someone a 5 year 228 million dollar contract after they only played 9 games in a season ?

I'm not.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

He wanted the supermax the same year he was out and only played 9 games ?

You giving someone a 5 year 228 million dollar contract after they only played 9 games in a season ?

I'm not.

It's essentially no different than what the Clippers are going to have to do now even as they know he more than likely isn't going to play next season. Brooklyn also did it with KD and the ruptured achilles.

 

[Torrential]

Why are we talking about the Spurs here? It's not 2017, nobody cares.

Its his schtick. Whiny contrarian

 

[Codeine Bryant]

He wanted the supermax the same year he was out and only played 9 games ?

You giving someone a 5 year 228 million dollar contract after they only played 9 games in a season ?

I'm not.

It’s more than that, though.

Tony Parker throwing him under the bus with the “my injury was 10x worse” comments

Pop being ice cold in interviews whenever asked about Kawhi and his rehab

The whole marriage just seemed off. Like the front office or powers that be just didn’t really like dude for whatever reason. Idk

A LOT of information got leaked out of SA regarding Kawhi and his camp around that time, too. That shouldn’t happen to your star player…

 

[Remote]

You’re right. Demar Derozan was a great return

My bad breh

Not the point. It was the circumstances that led to Kawhi being done.

 

[livindajetlife]

Naw last asterisk year was 2015 when everyone was basically injured

*looks at your username

 

[livindajetlife]

Not the point. It was the circumstances that led to Kawhi being done.

nikka Spurs suck and gonna suck for a long time foh dude

 

[Codeine Bryant]

Not the point. It was the circumstances that led to Kawhi being done.

See my post just above regarding all the peculiarity regarding the situation

I get the injury concerns at the time, but the way it was all handled and played out was just flat out bizarre. Never seen anything like it

For a super quiet guy, we heard way too much intimate detailing of his camp and his own family

Spurs seemingly alienated dude from even wanting to be there

 

[duckbutta]

It’s more than that, though.

Tony Parker throwing him under the bus with the “my injury was 10x worse” comments

Pop being ice cold in interviews whenever asked about Kawhi and his rehab

The whole marriage just seemed off. Like the front office or powers that be just didn’t really like dude for whatever reason. Idk

A LOT of information got leaked out of SA regarding Kawhi and his camp around that time, too. That shouldn’t happen to your star player…

If Tony Parker saying that about Kawhi really hurt his feelings like that then Kawhi is a p*ssy.

Pop is ice cold in interviews because Kawhi had his own medical team and he actually didn't know when Kawhi was coming back cause Kawhi team never told the spurs when he was coming back. Pop already had 4 rings before Kawhi Leonard ever put on a spurs jersey. Pop is also old as shyt AND a military man, people who fit that profile don't do a bunch of back bending and ass kissing and coddling.

Information gets leaked about players all the time every time everywhere. Why would it be any different from the spurs ?

Man if you want to take Kawhi "side" in what happened you can, you don't need to make up a bunch of bullshyt stories and narratives to try and make it seem like he was somehow wronged by the spurs. It's okay to say you just flat out don't like the spurs or you flat out want to side with Kawhi, I do it all the time. I'm rooting for the clippers to beat the jazz because...well...fukk Utah. I actually like their coach, I like how their team is constructed, I like the moves their front office has made. But...uh...its Utah, so fukk them mormons . If Utah wins a championship I will consider it a TRAVESTY . If Utah wins a championship and a genie gives me 3 wishes one of my wishes will be to give the nba championship to someone else, fukking Utah doesn't deserve it