Kawhi Leonard out tonight @ Clippers

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

The spurs have a core of 3 players who won 3 titles you expected the hornets and clippers to have better record? Spurs have had better teams than paul has

And I don't "stan" or "troll".You made a dumb post I debunked it.I understand why you hold a grudge vs paul since he shyts on the guy in your avi in every aspect of playing the pg position

You didn't debunk shyt. You came in here using his injuries as an excuse by using past seasons'/games as evidence of his production-success against the Spurs, trying to spin shyt in your favor when you know very well that the players have progressed, coaching schemes have changed and roster's are different since then. I don't hold any grudge towards CP, I acknowledge he's one of the best PGs in the game.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

The only thing that Parker has over CP3 is quickness. Tony Parker was never known for setting up his teammates and putting them in a position to score. That's what CP3 does. Tony Parker was never the best player on those Spurs championship teams, and he'll never solely win one as the best player on his team. You're also severely glossing over Pop's coaching, system, and the front office's ability to draft/sign players that fit his style of basketball. You honestly think that CP3 wouldn't have won championships with a prime Duncan/Ginobili? The Spurs are a well oiled a machine that doesn't over rely on player to succeed. Where were people when Parker was putting up similar numbers in 08 and shooting over 50%? Parker is one of the best penetrators and scoring PGs in the game. He has definitely stepped his play up, obviously. But y'all forgetting how great CP3 was back in NOLA. Dude has the highest Asst/TO ratio in the league, and still has a higher PER than Parker. CP3's front court is terrible, imo. DeAndre is ineffective in the half court and can't run the pick n roll like Chandler. Blake doesn't have the versatility of a David West. Caron Butler is a streaky shooter, Chauncey is also streaky and old; Jamal Crawford is a streaky, isolation scorer. The Spurs have way more efficient weapons playing within a system with one of the best coaches in the league. What CP3 is doing for The Clippers is nothing short of a miracle.

I'm not sure why you're talking about all that in the past. I'm saying Parker is better than him right now. And Paul would not be able to do what Parker is doing with this Spurs team because he wouldn't be as successful carrying the scoring load as Parker has been tasked with. I don't see how you can say what Paul is doing with the Clips who are loaded with depth and have players who create their own shot like Griffin, Bledsoe, and Crawford is a miracle and discount Parker carrying this team with Duncan and Leonard in and out of the lineup and Ginobili in semi-retirement. Pop's system doesn't run without Tony Parker. All these "efficient weapons" on the Spurs are just guys who don't make mistakes, know the system and shoot open jumpers off of screens and defensive breakdowns from Parker's dribble penetration.

When a guy is averaging 27 and 9 and shooting 60% over an 11 game stretch and is averaging 21 and over 7 and shooting 54% in 32 mpg and has one of the highest defensive ratings at his position, the Pop's system argument rings a bit hollow. He's creating offense and consistently beating defenders, not just benefiting from a favorability situation.

And Parker is a bigger part of the Spurs offense than Paul. For all this talk about Paul being a floor general and a miracle worker, his player utilization % is 21.9. Parker's is 28.5

And Parker is not just quicker than CP3. He has a wider array in his offensive arsenal...better moves, a better dribble penetrator and a better finisher with all his teardrops and floaters and ability to maneuver in traffic and get off high percentage shots in the lane. And he's shooting better from everywhere on the court other than non-corner 3's, which neither of them shoot often. Parker is scoring more in less minutes and 6 or 7 % higher in % while still averaging over 7 assists and carrying the full load of the offense on his shoulders. Parker is the better scorer, Paul is better passer. Paul is the better "traditional PG" but Parker is the best player playing PG. I think it's very uncommon for a good player to turn into an elite player around the time they're 30, so it's hard for people to wrap their mind around and accept what Parker is doing now.

 

[The War Report]

I'm not sure why you're talking about all that in the past. I'm saying Parker is better than him right now. And Paul would not be able to do what Parker is doing with this Spurs team because he wouldn't be as successful carrying the scoring load as Parker has been tasked with. I don't see how you can say what Paul is doing with the Clips who are loaded with depth is a miracle and discount Parker carrying this team with Duncan and Leonard in and out of the lineup and Ginobili in semi-retirement. Pop's system doesn't run without Tony Parker. All these "efficient weapons" on the Spurs are just guys who don't make mistakes, know the system and shoot open jumpers off of screens and defensive breakdowns from Parker's dribble penetration.

When a guy is averaging 27 and 9 and shooting 60% over an 11 game stretch and is averaging 21 and over 7 and shooting 54% in 32 mpg and has one of the highest defensive ratings at his position, the Pop's system argument rings a bit hollow. He's creating offense and consistently beating defenders, not just benefiting from a favorability situation.

And Parker is a bigger part of the Spurs offense than Paul. For all this talk about Paul being a floor general and a miracle worker (and I'm not denying that he is), his player utilization % is 21.9. Parker's is 28.5

And Parker is not just quicker than CP3. He has a wider array in his offensive arsenal...better moves, a better dribble penetrator and a better finisher with all his teardrops and floaters and ability to maneuver in traffic and get off high percentage shots in the lane. And he's shooting better from everywhere on the court other than non-corner 3's, which neither of them shoot often. Parker is scoring more in less minutes and 6 or 7 % higher in % while still averaging over 7 assists and carrying the full load of the offense on his shoulders. Parker is the better scorer, Paul is better passer. Paul is the better "traditional PG" but Parker is the best player playing PG. I think it's very uncommon for a good player to turn into an elite player around the time they're 30, so it's hard for people to wrap their mind around and accept what Parker is doing now.

Listen to yourself. You're a Spurs stan, so objectivity is not present when you're making your argument. Tony Parker is not a better basketball player or point guard than CP3.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Listen to yourself. You're a Spurs stan, so objectivity is not present when you're making your argument. Tony Parker is not a better basketball player or point guard than CP3.

So are you really trying to say Paul has a wider and more effective scoring arsenal than Parker? Name one thing he does better than Parker scoring-wise. Parker is more effective and dominant inside and out and advanced statistics and our eyes prove it. Don't fall back to this "you're a Spurs fan so you're biased" shyt. What does Paul do better or what does he have in his arsenal that Parker doesn't have when it comes to putting the ball in the basket?

 

[malbaker86]

I'm not sure why you're talking about all that in the past. I'm saying Parker is better than him right now. And Paul would not be able to do what Parker is doing with this Spurs team because he wouldn't be as successful carrying the scoring load as Parker has been tasked with. I don't see how you can say what Paul is doing with the Clips who are loaded with depth and have players who create their own shot like Griffin, Bledsoe, and Crawford is a miracle and discount Parker carrying this team with Duncan and Leonard in and out of the lineup and Ginobili in semi-retirement. Pop's system doesn't run without Tony Parker. All these "efficient weapons" on the Spurs are just guys who don't make mistakes, know the system and shoot open jumpers off of screens and defensive breakdowns from Parker's dribble penetration.

When a guy is averaging 27 and 9 and shooting 60% over an 11 game stretch and is averaging 21 and over 7 and shooting 54% in 32 mpg and has one of the highest defensive ratings at his position, the Pop's system argument rings a bit hollow. He's creating offense and consistently beating defenders, not just benefiting from a favorability situation.

And Parker is a bigger part of the Spurs offense than Paul. For all this talk about Paul being a floor general and a miracle worker, his player utilization % is 21.9. Parker's is 28.5

And Parker is not just quicker than CP3. He has a wider array in his offensive arsenal...better moves, a better dribble penetrator and a better finisher with all his teardrops and floaters and ability to maneuver in traffic and get off high percentage shots in the lane. And he's shooting better from everywhere on the court other than non-corner 3's, which neither of them shoot often. Parker is scoring more in less minutes and 6 or 7 % higher in % while still averaging over 7 assists and carrying the full load of the offense on his shoulders. Parker is the better scorer, Paul is better passer. Paul is the better "traditional PG" but Parker is the best player playing PG. I think it's very uncommon for a good player to turn into an elite player around the time they're 30, so it's hard for people to wrap their mind around and accept what Parker is doing now.

and didn't TP just cook CP3 just last night? :cacpls:

 

[pete clemenza]

What CP3 is doing for The Clippers is nothing short of a miracle.

fukk what Reggie Miller was talkin' about, Blake has been ballin' his azz off as of the last month and a half. He was the only one who showed up last night. He gets double teamed like crazy now since DJ is no threat. You have a point with DeAndre, no arguments here. And why to people always overrate David West? he's good with that little midrange jumper but g*ddamn niccas talk like he's a top 20 player in the leagueMight as well bring up Aaron Gray while ya'll at it. Paul made him look nice as well during that little Hornets playoff run three years ago. We got shytted on last night no doubt about it.. but Paul isn't playing with scrubs

 

[Tony D'Amato]

The thing I love about Parker is he really doesn't dominate the ball. CP gets on my nerves dribbling for like 18secs.

 

[The War Report]

fukk what Reggie Miller was talkin' about, Blake has been ballin' his azz off as of the last month and a half. He was the only one who showed up last night. He gets double teamed like crazy now since DJ is no threat. You have a point with DeAndre, no arguments here. And why to people always overrate David West? he's good with that little midrange jumper but g*ddamn niccas talk like he's a top 20 player in the leagueMight as well bring up Aaron Gray while ya'll at it. Paul made him look nice as well during that little Hornets playoff run three years ago. We got shytted on last night no doubt about it.. but Paul isn't playing with scrubs

West is a very solid player and he's putting up 17/7 in Indy. The point is that Blake wishes he can do what David West does. Ask @Malta

 

[pete clemenza]

West is a very solid player and he's putting up 17/7 in Indy. The point is that Blake wishes he can do what David West does. Ask @Malta

Blake is at 18/8 right now. And I know Blake still has things to improve on no question.

I like David West, he has a nice game but what has he fukking done to get all this merit? Seriously. "Oh the great and all powerful David West" gtfoh with all that bullshyt!

 

[malbaker86]

Blake is at 18/8 right now. And I know Blake still has things to improve on no question.

I like David West, he has a nice game but what has he fukking done to get all this merit? Seriously. "Oh the great and all powerful David West" gtfoh with all that bullshyt!

David West is who he is, BG is young and has room to improve, which I believe he will. People do swear by David West for some reason