KD: "Iverson Is The Pound For Pound Best"

[Draje]

if u didn't LOVE the way AI played, there's something wrong with you. Kobe was my favorite player in the 2000s but AI was the dude I respected the most.

for anyone to try and disregard his GREATNESS because of fg%/analytics shows u (1) don't know anything about basketball and (2) u prolly white.

Or that I'm able to both enjoy a game is played and be logical about their ability.

I love watching Nick Young. He gives no fukks, he makes some absurd shots off the dribble, and he's just fun to watch. Doesn't mean he's Comparable scorer to Kevin Love or Lebron.

this. all the modern cats are literally gaming the system now that efffiency is in. Shane Battier admitted this. Also we had that article last year where the OKC coach had to beg KD to shoot last second half court shots rather than dribble the clock out to protect his fg%.

back when we was growing up and AI was dominanting all nikkas cared about was who led the league in scoring. I never heard anyone mention fg%.

Yeah, y'all the same idiots who would grab Melo over Lebron or Barkley over Duncan.

Dudes are mad that advanced stats are starting to show the limits of players they grew up watching.

Only on the Coli is dudes playing smarter basketball and passing up bad shots a flaw.

"Iverson is better than Lebron because he scores a couple of more points on drastically lower efficiency. Lebron just games the system by taking smarter shots!"

 

[ManBearPig]

Or that I'm able to both enjoy a game is played and be logical about their ability.

I love watching Nick Young. He gives no fukks, he makes some absurd shots off the dribble, and he's just fun to watch. Doesn't mean he's Comparable scorer to Kevin Love or Lebron.



Yeah, y'all the same idiots who would grab Melo over Lebron or Barkley over Duncan.

Dudes are mad that advanced stats are starting to show the limits of players they grew up watching.

Only on the Coli is dudes playing smarter basketball and passing up bad shots a flaw.

"Iverson is better than Lebron because he scores a couple of more points on drastically lower efficiency. Lebron just games the system by taking smarter shots!"

This is a hip hop forum. Iverson basically own everybody's hearts to everybody growing up around his era who liveed off hip hop.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

oh, back when you were like 5 years old? that back when?

efficiency isn't a new concept. advanced stats have just taken that part of analysis further. fg% was never irrelevant. stop trying to re-write history, you weren't old enough to watch or understand ball, let alone have types of those conversations.

Sheiiittt!!! Are YOU sure that YOU know what you talking about.......

 

[Liquid]

Harden, Beal, Klay, Lance, Waiters, Derozan

its not as bad as ya'll make it out to seem, I listed some good young talent at the 2

NONE of those guys are as good as the dudes who came in the mid to late 90s breh

 

[DoubleClutch]

Or that I'm able to both enjoy a game is played and be logical about their ability.

I love watching Nick Young. He gives no fukks, he makes some absurd shots off the dribble, and he's just fun to watch. Doesn't mean he's Comparable scorer to Kevin Love or Lebron.



Yeah, y'all the same idiots who would grab Melo over Lebron or Barkley over Duncan.

Dudes are mad that advanced stats are starting to show the limits of players they grew up watching.

Only on the Coli is dudes playing smarter basketball and passing up bad shots a flaw.

"Iverson is better than Lebron because he scores a couple of more points on drastically lower efficiency. Lebron just games the system by taking smarter shots!"

I don't know what you mean by "comparable" but nick young is a far better scorer than lebron or love..... Or should I say a more skilled scorer. Basketball is like art. You can't fully appreciate the game if you don't understand this or maybe you just never played. Stats aren't everything.... Actually they don't even matter during the game in the moment. I assume most nba players don't play thinking about their stats, they just do what they do what comes naturally. The objective is to score/win, not to shoot 50% fg every night. And some just play for the fun and competition of it. Also, the players are supposed to be entertaining like you say.

Iverson was one of the most entertaining/competitive players to watch during his prime, (on and off the court) probably second to only Jordan and maybe Kobe. And he loved the game. That's why everyone loves him and call him the GOAT despite his stats and no championships

 

[Draje]

I don't know what you mean by "comparable" but nick young is a far better scorer than lebron or love..... Or should I say a more skilled scorer. Basketball is like art. You can't fully appreciate the game if you don't understand this or maybe you just never played. Stats aren't everything.... Actually they don't even matter during the game in the moment. I assume most nba players don't play thinking about their stats, they just do what they do what comes naturally. The objective is to score/win, not to shoot 50% fg every night. And some just play for the fun of it. Also, the players are supposed to be entertaining like you say.

Iverson was one of the most entertaining players to watch during his prime, (on and off the court) probably second to only Jordan and maybe Kobe. That's why everyone loves him despite his stats and no championships

This is the stupidest shyt I've ever read on the Coli. Anyone who could watch a basketball game and say some dumb ass stuff like this is someone I would never take seriously.

Contrary to popular belief, it's not very easy to score something in the high 20s on 56% shooting otherwise, everyone would do it. The ability to read defenses, get to the lane, and finish like he does is elite. Not only that but Lebron makes stupid, off balance shots all the goddamn time. He just prefers to find better shots or avenues to score if he can.

Literally said that Nick Young is better at getting buckets than Lebron James.

 

[Swagnificent]

oh, back when you were like 5 years old? that back when?

efficiency isn't a new concept. advanced stats have just taken that part of analysis further. fg% was never irrelevant. stop trying to re-write history, you weren't old enough to watch or understand ball, let alone have types of those conversations.

no it was irrelevant. it just wasn't that big a deal. i don't ever remember anyone saying AI wasn't a great player back in the day because he shot under 40%. people said he should may be share the ball more.

nowadays fg% seems to be end all be all over whether dude is a good player or not and that is just stupid.

 

[Swagnificent]

Or that I'm able to both enjoy a game is played and be logical about their ability.

I love watching Nick Young. He gives no fukks, he makes some absurd shots off the dribble, and he's just fun to watch. Doesn't mean he's Comparable scorer to Kevin Love or Lebron.



Yeah, y'all the same idiots who would grab Melo over Lebron or Barkley over Duncan.

Dudes are mad that advanced stats are starting to show the limits of players they grew up watching.

Only on the Coli is dudes playing smarter basketball and passing up bad shots a flaw.

"Iverson is better than Lebron because he scores a couple of more points on drastically lower efficiency. Lebron just games the system by taking smarter shots!"

NO. I judge players on WINNING. I may not like Duncan over Barkley but he's better cause he won. Same with LeBron and Melo. Advanced stats are just like any other stat. They are limited in what they can tell us. The best way to judge a player is to still watch them play every game of a season.

 

[Swagnificent]

This is a hip hop forum. Iverson basically own everybody's hearts to everybody growing up around his era who liveed off hip hop.

No. people love him cause he was incredibly exciting to watch and played the game with a passion that was pretty much unrivaled. I'd say after Kobe and prime T-Mac, he was probably the most exciting player I've seen (not counting Jordan since he was before my time).

 

[FTBS]

thats because they are sensitive and care about how cacs perceive them. cats like kobe and ai could give two shyts about john hollinger and the any other cac.

Yeah it has nothing to do with effectiveness and trying to win.

thats a complete lie. i don't know what community you grew up in, but when nikkas was saying kobe was better than ai it was usually rings and then ai nikkas would come back and say he has shaq. then we'd go into who had the bettter cross-over. I swear only this new generation cares about stats that much. I didn't even know what numbers dudes put up back then unless NBC or TNT put it up during the games.

remember this was the era before the internet blew up. no nikkas was on the net in 2001. it was just cacs and asians back then.

The ignorance

The community was here...well actually it was . I've been posting since 04 and I'm sure the shyt didn't just start when I got there....I'm sure it was just "cacs and asians" though.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Dudes are mad that advanced stats are starting to show the limits of players they grew up watching.

 

[Draje]

NO. I judge players on WINNING. I may not like Duncan over Barkley but he's better cause he won. Same with LeBron and Melo. Advanced stats are just like any other stat. They are limited in what they can tell us. The best way to judge a player is to still watch them play every game of a season.

Judge players on winning and then cape for AI, brehs.

 

[Akademiks]

pound for pound the best ever ... KD know the truth ... but of course hes saying this cuz he never won a championship like Iverson ... once he wins a championship he'll fo rget about AI the GOAT and start riding Jordans penis.

 

[AtomicUse]

AI is very well respected in these parts. Plus the hood tales of AI the street nikka down in southern VA are , that was pound for pound the most thugged out MVP the NBA will ever have. :wowderas:

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

I really shouldn't but fukk it the nikka retired anyway this my favorite AI tale.

A nikka I know that went to Hampton seen that nikka one time during his MVP season out there and as it was relayed to me dude is a total street nikka with the strap and all, he even dropped it on some drunk shyt gettin out the car like Birdman did on that one MTV special. So this nikka just posted with these nikkaz with his bottle sippin acting like he not the runaway MVP of the NBA, if you know Hampton you know its bad ass broads out there so this one BAD bytch stepped to him and flat out said she'd suck him off right there. This nikka AI was like "bytch, if you don't get the fukk out my face I don't know you!" and curved the shyt outta her to her absolute amazement and disappointment. My mans and his nikkaz was all like "Shiiiiiiiiiiiit, you can bop me off girl!" So anyways, they end up walking into a Burger King and its some broads sitting in a booth and this nikka AI step to them and straight up was like "Which one of you bytches is gon suck my dikk?" One of them broads got saditty talkin bout "Just cuz you AI don't mean you can just talk to people any kinda way." and this nikka responds with "bytch did I tell you what my name was?! "

I can't remember if he got one of them broads to fukk I think he did, usually by that part of the story I would be laughing hysterically. nikkaz that know even a little about the off camera AI got the utmost respect just off the strength of how he was representing at the time. No way in hell he'd survive in this era.