Keefe D Interview Series on The Art of Dialogue (2Pac/Death Row YouTube Channel)

[Tony D'Amato]

There's no evidence whatsoever that police radios were used in coordinating Biggie's murder or that cops were involved. NONE. That was an allegation brought up during a phase of the lawsuit where the attorneys for Wallace estate were looking for an angle to somehow tie the LAPD to the murder. And they themselves even stopped alleging that once it became clear there wasn't any evidence that it occurred.

David Mack was dropped from the lawsuit because there was nothing tying him to the murder outside of uncredible witness statements and circumstantial bullshyt in the mind of Russell Poole.

Raphael Perez, one of the most notorious snitches in LAPD history, threw any and everyone under the bus when he was arrested during the Rampart scandal. PBS did an entire Frontline documentary on this. There's over 4,000 pages of sworn documents of his snitching. He implicated over 5 dozen different police officers. And while most of it was bullshyt, the point is that he had no qualms whatsoever about naming names and pointing fingers to save his own ass.

But not once during the over 50 times that he met with investigators to give testimony on these other crooked cops did he ever mention himself or anyone else being involved in Biggie's murder.

You think somebody who's been singing longer than Frank Sinatra's career to the feds is just going to conveniently leave out information on one of the most infamous murders in American history if he knew anything about it? He implicated himself and others in criminal police shootings, drug deals, and falsified testimony. But info on Biggie's murder? Yeah, he's gonna keep quiet about that, even though he's facing football numbers as a crooked cop in the California prison system.




Again, these conspiracy theories about crooked cops being involved in Biggie's murder MAKE NO FUKKING SENSE. Which is why the lawsuit was eventually dropped because the attorneys for the Wallace estate has nobody to tie these erroneous claims to. The LAPD didn't even agree to a 2 million dollar settlement agreement that the Biggie lawyers offered.

You mean to tell me that a lawsuit in which a party was looking at a half-billion dollar price tag at one point, gets dropped down to 2 million, and the defendants STILL tell you to kick rocks and is based on a solid foundation?



But yeah, I'm gonna "do my research" as you suggested. Clearly you know more about the details of these murders and the investigations than I do.

Who said anything about Perez? And if he did help with the murder, why give that up? He'll be out if he's not already.

Coos were involved. I believe Russell Poole and the fbi agent over u.

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

You keep giving me a feeling that I believe in a conspiracy, but it was known DR worked with off duty cops right? So is it that far fetched to believe in a theory where off duty cops were involved? Im not saying there is this group of people from the government hiding the fact cops killed Biggie. You saw the wire? I believe that show is right, as in image and politics before the truth.

To answer you first sentence. Its called politics my friend.

Yes, it is far-fetched because "off-duty cops" does not equal LAPD. The only known LAPD cop who had any off-duty association with DR was a cop named Richard McCauley. And he was reprimanded for associating with Death Row BY THE LAPD. He continued doing so against their orders and was en route to being fired over it but quit before he was officially fired. Other than him, the only alleged associations of LAPD cops to Death Row came from Kevin Hackie, who has recanted everything he claimed and later admitted he made it all up.

So even if there were any other cops working off duty for Death Row, it's not relevant to these specific conspiracy theories because they have no connection to LAPD. Why would the LAPD be interested in covering up crimes that they have no involvement in?

And as far as just dismissing all evidence to the contrary and clinging to any theory because "politics" or "reasons". I'm sorry. To me that's just a lazy retort a person uses when they don't want to abandon a preconceived notion or when they can't explain something through any rational means.

It's just deux ex machina in a debate setting.

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

Who said anything about Perez? And if he did help with the murder, why give that up? He'll be out if he's not already.

Coos were involved. I believe Russell Poole and the fbi agent over u.

Breh, are you senile? The quote you copy and pasted in your response to show crooked cops were somehow involved using police radios mentioned Rafael Perez. So you didn't even bother reading your own shyt that you posted as a rebuttal?

And again, "I'm right because I believe I'm right, so there!" might be sufficient for a 4-yr old kid to say during a disagreement, but it doesn't fly for adults. You can believe whatever you want to believe. Just know that you haven't provided any support or solid evidence in support of your beliefs in this thread AT ALL.

And for the record, the FBI was involved in Greg Kading's task force as well.


A favored tactic for conspiracy theorists in Biggie and Tupac discussions is to suggest cops shouldn't be believed and were complicit in the killings, while simultaneously using cops as figures of authority for those very same theories.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Yes, it is far-fetched because "off-duty cops" does not equal LAPD. The only known LAPD cop who had any off-duty association with DR was a cop named Richard McCauley. And he was reprimanded for associating with Death Row BY THE LAPD. He continued doing so against their orders and was en route to being fired over it but quit before he was officially fired. Other than him, the only alleged associations of LAPD cops to Death Row came from Kevin Hackie, who has recanted everything he claimed and later admitted he made it all up.

So even if there were any other cops working off duty for Death Row, it's not relevant to these specific conspiracy theories because they have no connection to LAPD. Why would the LAPD be interested in covering up crimes that they have no involvement in?

And as far as just dismissing all evidence to the contrary and clinging to any theory because "politics" or "reasons". I'm sorry. To me that's just a lazy retort a person uses when they don't want to abandon a preconceived notion or when they can't explain something through any rational means.

It's just deux ex machina in a debate setting.

So Gaines and Mack had no association with DR?

Man please.

 

[bigde09]

Why did Puff get the gangs involved?

Suge started everything. From blaming Puff for the Atlanta incident to taking pictures with Puff's BM and kid. Suge was the one pressing the issue and Pac added fuel to the fire.

Puff and Suge are two sides of the same coin. My point is Puff hands are dirty just like Suge's.

When Puff put the bounty out, that was the beginning of the end for Pac and Biggies life.

 

[Supa]

Puff and Suge are two sides of the same coin. My point is Puff hands are dirty just like Suge's.

When Puff put the bounty out, that was the beginning of the end for Pac and Biggies life.

The bounty was a response to Suge's actions. The Death Row side was pressing the issue. You can't compare Puff to Suge. Bad Boy wasn't terrorizing the industry.

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

So Gaines and Mack had no association with DR?

Man please.

If by association you mean Kevin Gaines was fukking Suge's ex-wife, then yes, he was associated with Death Row. I guess that also means Russell Wilson is associated with Freebandz since he's fukking Ciara.


And for the umpteenth time, provide something in support of what you believe. You're doing the same exact shyt Keefe D in that clip that started this entire thread. Nobody gives a shyt what you believe if you're not going to bother defending it.

David Mack and Kevin Gaines were not employed by Death Row or Wright Way security. You can believe otherwise, but at least try and provide SOME evidence outside of a picture in a red suit, retracted statements, and condoms on the baby seat.

 

[bigde09]

The bounty was a response to Suge's actions. The Death Row side was pressing the issue. You can't compare Puff to Suge. Bad Boy wasn't terrorizing the industry.

I'm not defending Suge his demise was entirely his fault. Puff and Bad Boy weren't no angels tho.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

If by association you mean Kevin Gaines was fukking Suge's ex-wife, then yes, he was associated with Death Row. I guess that also means Russell Wilson is associated with Freebandz since he's fukking Ciara.


And for the umpteenth time, provide something in support of what you believe. You're doing the same exact shyt Keefe D in that clip that started this entire thread. Nobody gives a shyt what you believe if you're not going to bother defending it.

David Mack and Kevin Gaines were not employed by Death Row or Wright Way security. You can believe otherwise, but at least try and provide SOME evidence outside of a picture in a red suit, retracted statements, and condoms on the baby seat.

And u think it was just a coincidence he fukked Suges ex? They were all in the same circle. They were associates from the city. You don't think Suge is gonna know who is in the house he paid for? Driving a car he paid for. Then he was yelling Blood and throwing up gang signs. All a coincidence

 

[Roovers410]

And u think it was just a coincidence he fukked Suges ex? They were all in the same circle. They were associates from the city. You don't think Suge is gonna know who is in the house he paid for? Driving a car he paid for. Then he was yelling Blood and throwing up gang signs. All a coincidence

the David Mack theory is highly unlikely to say the least.

 

[Roovers410]

Yes, it is far-fetched because "off-duty cops" does not equal LAPD. The only known LAPD cop who had any off-duty association with DR was a cop named Richard McCauley. And he was reprimanded for associating with Death Row BY THE LAPD. He continued doing so against their orders and was en route to being fired over it but quit before he was officially fired. Other than him, the only alleged associations of LAPD cops to Death Row came from Kevin Hackie, who has recanted everything he claimed and later admitted he made it all up.

So even if there were any other cops working off duty for Death Row, it's not relevant to these specific conspiracy theories because they have no connection to LAPD. Why would the LAPD be interested in covering up crimes that they have no involvement in?

And as far as just dismissing all evidence to the contrary and clinging to any theory because "politics" or "reasons". I'm sorry. To me that's just a lazy retort a person uses when they don't want to abandon a preconceived notion or when they can't explain something through any rational means.

It's just deux ex machina in a debate setting.

Im just convinced the Theresa/Suge/Poochie circle is too small, and that there is another person involved. I’m not saying off duty cops did the murder. And I’m not saying more because I don’t wanna say who I think is involved

 

[Tony D'Amato]

the David Mack theory is highly unlikely to say the least.

Isn't he already out? And he did no snitchin. That was the most likely. He apparently wasn't shy about claiming Piru. Was from Cpt, and Amir Muhammad just happened to be his ace

 

[Positive Posting]

No fukkin cap, no kizzy

I see nikkaz is really starting to fukk with KEFFE D, they like his videos, y’all think he smart and ya fukkin with him smh

how y’all gonna like 2pacs killer smh

 

[Controversy]

 

[shopthatwrecks]

Bg knocc out is a known liar ... all the shyt he was sayin dealin with eazy n the whole time him n dresta were straddling both sides of the fence with ruthless n death row

jus like ren was ..