Keith Olbermann -- Clippers Should REFUSE TO PLAY ... Until NBA Punishes Sterling

[Kritic]

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"black jews and white jews"

that's fuqqed up but i'll leave that for another thread.

 

[Consigliere]

I have no idea what the NBA bylaws are. But I don't see anyway in which you can take away something someone owns just because they are a racist. If only the Clippers were publicly owned like the Packers.

Yeah. See this is why it feels like black people keep getting set up for the okeydoke. Everyone is outraged with no way to act on it. We're hoping that someone else swoops in and fixes a situation that has more to do with centuries of discrimination than anything that Sterling said or has done. Even the President feeds into playing whack a mole with racism by making statements when he knows its a wide spread problem has to be attacked from a systemic level.

This is a lot like the Duck Dynasty situation, except in this case Sterling named specific people he didn't want to be associated with. When Marge Schott was suspended for 2 years was it over her comments or had she taken some kind of discriminatory action that forced MLBs hand?

 

[Consigliere]

Someone posted part of their charter that explicitly says that discrimination is strictly prohibited as a prerequisite of owning or operating a team. I'll see if I can locate or verify that.

The NBA as a whole does receive public support and protection though. They do have an antitrust exemption don't they? Doesn't that require them to abide by CRA?

So I guess my question is, has Donald Sterling crossed the line from bigoted rhetoric into discriminatory action?

 

[Cabbage Patch]

yo... after listening to the audio for the first time i wanna change my stance on all this sh1t.

that bytch set white dude up. i'm gonna have to side with the white dude. these groupie bytches are something else.

that's all i gotta say. forget all the other sh1t i said about him.

i think ppl are just running with this sh1t because it's a white dude.

He needed to be set up. He was far too comfortable saying the things he said on that tape. And it goes with all the other things re-revealed about him, his quotes, his activities, his refusal to hire people because they were black, the apartment situation. That whole nasty 'look at those beautiful black bodies' while his team is showering, showing them off to his bimbo of the moment as if they were show horses (or as if he has a Mandingo fetish he's only okay with letting out if a woman gives him a cover to do so).

As sick as it is of V. Stiviano to sleep with him, his wife is worse for staying with him and then blaming the girlfriend.

 

[Cabbage Patch]

Yeah. See this is why it feels like black people keep getting set up for the okeydoke. Everyone is outraged with no way to act on it. We're hoping that someone else swoops in and fixes a situation that has more to do with centuries of discrimination than anything that Sterling said or has done. Even the President feeds into playing whack a mole with racism by making statements when he knows its a wide spread problem has to be attacked from a systemic level.

This is a lot like the Duck Dynasty situation, except in this case Sterling named specific people he didn't want to be associated with. When Marge Schott was suspended for 2 years was it over her comments or had she taken some kind of discriminatory action that forced MLBs hand?

Marge finally dissed Jews instead of just Blacks. Never ever say anything good about Hitler.

 

[Type Username Here]

So I guess my question is, has Donald Sterling crossed the line from bigoted rhetoric into discriminatory action?

I would argue so given his history. Telling someone not bring black people to his games could definitely be construed as that.

You have to take into account his whole body of work.

 

[Cabbage Patch]

So I guess my question is, has Donald Sterling crossed the line from bigoted rhetoric into discriminatory action?

If what's been revealed this weekend about his hiring/firing practices and his payment practices is true -- according to court cases -- then yes, he went beyond rhetoric to discriminatory action. So how much did he pay the NAACP to give him an award, twice?

 

[Cabbage Patch]

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"black jews and white jews"

how are they beta (second) jews, when their religious practices and traditions are purer and older than either ashkenazim (of course) or sephardic jews?

 

[Kritic]

He needed to be set up. He was far too comfortable saying the things he said on that tape. And it goes with all the other things re-revealed about him, his quotes, his activities, his refusal to hire people because they were black, the apartment situation. That whole nasty 'look at those beautiful black bodies' while his team is showering, showing them off to his bimbo of the moment as if they were show horses (or as if he has a Mandingo fetish he's only okay with letting out if a woman gives him a cover to do so).

As sick as it is of V. Stiviano to sleep with him, his wife is worse for staying with him and then blaming the girlfriend.

he was just "player hating". you're allowed to player hate a lil bit but not to the point of being too insecure to being dysfunctional. your own friends player hate on you to their girls.

it's "his woman" he was talking to. he actually did pretty good for being setup. he didn't go all out of magic. in fact he says he admired him. it's that bytch who was pushing him to say the other shyt. i swear these bytches can set niccas up and just cause they're females dudes will side with them.

 

[Cabbage Patch]

he was just "player hating". you're allowed to player hate a lil bit but not to the point of being too insecure to being dysfunctional. your own friends player hate on you to their girls.

it's "his woman" he was talking to. he actually did pretty good for being setup. he didn't go all out of magic. in fact he says he admired him. it's that bytch who was pushing him to say the other shyt. i swear these bytches can set niccas up and just cause they're females dudes will side with them.

nikka, are you for real, or are you ? I can't tell anymore, on this board.

 

[Consigliere]

Marge finally dissed Jews instead of just Blacks. Never ever say anything good about Hitler.

It's amazing how much power some groups have compared to others.

I would argue so given his history. Telling someone not bring black people to his games could definitely be construed as that.

You have to take into account his whole body of work.

So there's a possibility that he could lose his team? If that's the case, then NBA players should be looking at a league wide boycott/ protest until he's removed or some kind of legal action against the league for doing continued business with a known racist. This Sterling issue has been left unchecked for 20 years and I can guarantee that other owners either felt the same way or knew the content of his character before those tapes were leaked which would make it a league wide endemic problem.

If what's been revealed this weekend about his hiring/firing practices and his payment practices is true -- according to court cases -- then yes, he went beyond rhetoric to discriminatory action. So how much did he pay the NAACP to give him an award, twice?

Mark Moreale (sp?) has been one of the most feckless and impotent leaders of a Black organization that I can remember. If this brings further embarrassment on him, then good.

 

[Kritic]

nikka, are you for real, or are you ? I can't tell anymore, on this board.

i am being for real. but if the movement is too strong he should just take a suspension to calm shyt down.

i've been in situations like him where bytches turn on me and cause ppl jealous they side with the bytches just because... of course i cut the bytch and its fuq anyone that sides with them. then it just turns into other shyt where ppl's lives really get ruined. but ppl make choices of the sides they wanna take for whatever reasons. i ain't gonna lose my shyt over some salty ass bytch who think she can just destroy my situation just beause she got some looks..

 

[No1]

Someone posted part of their charter that explicitly says that discrimination is strictly prohibited as a prerequisite of owning or operating a team. I'll see if I can locate or verify that.

The NBA as a whole does receive public support and protection though. They do have an antitrust exemption don't they? Doesn't that require them to abide by CRA?

I'd be the wrong person to ask about antitrust laws at this point in my life. Never wanted to wake up at 8:30AM to take that course. But by CRA are you referring to the Civil Rights Act...if you are, I don't see what type of legal claim you're referring to...being racist and having a racist policy are two different things.

I'd like to see the bylaws though, for clarity. I'd love to know what their options are.

 

[Type Username Here]

So there's a possibility that he could lose his team? If that's the case, then NBA players should be looking at a league wide boycott/ protest until he's removed or some kind of legal action against the league for doing continued business with a known racist. This Sterling issue has been left unchecked for 20 years and I can guarantee that other owners either felt the same way or knew the content of his character before those tapes were leaked which would make it a league wide endemic problem.
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Yes my friend, this why I was saying that only the players have the power to demand respect and change. It's a racial and labor issue wrapped in one. Sterling will be tossed to the side in a heartbeat if the NBA feels their cash flow threatened. That seems like a minor victory compared to ultimately telling every other owner what will happen to their money if they keep on this course.

Only those players can bring social change and inspire others.

Just my opinion. I know what some are asking them to do is a tremendously risky and brave action but they have a monumental opportunity to take a defiant step.

 

[Consigliere]

Yes my friend, this why I was saying that only the players have the power to demand respect and change. It's a racial and labor issue wrapped in one. Sterling will be tossed to the side in a heartbeat if the NBA feels their cash flow threatened. That seems like a minor victory compared to ultimately telling every other owner what will happen to their money if they keep on this course.

Only those players can bring social change and inspire others.

Just my opinion. I know what some are asking them to do is a tremendously risky and brave action but they have a monumental opportunity to take a defiant step.

We'll see on Tuesday or whenever Silver releases his decision whether the league is taking this seriously or not. If they don't, then it's incumbent on the players, not just the Clippers, to take a stand. We'll see.