Kendrick and Jadakiss debate Jay Z and Nas' battle(Takeover vs. Ether)

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I might could have to throw that word in my daily vocabulary, breh.
 

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Dude is being politically correct jayz has a lot of power nas does not.
When takeover dropped everyone was like nas is done when ether dropped nikkas was like damn jayz lost. People still using the term ether
 

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I always thought the "Ether" beat was kinda trash.

Here's the thing. I've explained this before. I actually like "Takeover" better. But it doesn't matter, because Jay obviously felt like he lost. So what I, Kendrick Lamar, or The Coli say is kinda irrelevant.

And please don't get on some dumb shyt like "what do you mean, he felt like he lost?". We've all heard the audio. I cannot in good faith ever give Jay the W after how he sounded on the radio, because he didn't even sound like he believed he'd won.

I have no idea why Jay let the song get to him that bad. It was a terrible move to go on the radio like that. I'm sure Nas was :whoo: about some of the shyt Jay was saying, but he went on the radio and :heh: at it. Like it was a joke to him. Jay went on the radio in shambles. I've never heard him sound like that before that, or since then.

Fred.
 

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Aint this from like 2 years ago on Vibe.com?

Kendrick's a big Jay fan so he's gonna lean to him and thats fine. It was a close battle you can make an argument either way. Dont mean he's hating on Nas either as we've seen him give him props too naming Stillmatic one of his fav albums
 

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NY all day..Da Stead & BK..
I know you missing Nas all the(fame)
But along with celebrity comes about 70 shots to your frame, nikka...................fact
You a (lame)
You's the faq model for Karl Kani Esco ads..................fact
Went from Nasty Nas to Esco's trash.....................fact
Had a spark when you started but now you're just garbage......................fact
Fell from "top 10" to "not mentioned at all"
To your bodyguard's "Oochie Wally"'s verse better than yours........................fact
Matter of fact you had the worst flow on the whole fukking song.................fact
But I know: the sun don't shine, then son don't shine
That's why your (lame) career's come to an end
There's only so long fake thugs can pretend......................fact
nikka, you ain't live it
You witnessed it from your folks' pad
You scribbled it in your notepad and created your life
.......................fact
I showed you your first Tec, on tour with Large Professor...................fact
Then I heard your album about your Tec on the dresser
So yeah, I sampled your voice, you was using it wrong.................fact
You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song.................fact
And you ain't get a coin, nikka, you was getting fukked then
I know who I paid, God - Serchlite publishing
......................fact
Use your (brain)
You said you've been in this 10, I've been in it 5 - smarten up, Nas
4 albums in 10 years, nikka?I could divide
That's one every...let's say 2

2 of them shyts was due
1 was "nah," the other was Illmatic
That's a one-hot-album-every-10-year average
......................fact
And that's so (lame)
nikka, switch up your flow
Your shyt is garbage
What you trying to kick, knowledge?

You nikkas gonna learn to respect the king
Don't be the next contestant on that Summer Jam screen
Because you-know-who did you-know-what with you-know-who
But let's keep that between me and you (for now)
...................................fact
90% of that shyt was opinions...
 

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I always thought the "Ether" beat was kinda trash.

Here's the thing. I've explained this before. I actually like "Takeover" better. But it doesn't matter, because Jay obviously felt like he lost. So what I, Kendrick Lamar, or The Coli say is kinda irrelevant.

And please don't get on some dumb shyt like "what do you mean, he felt like he lost?". We've all heard the audio. I cannot in good faith ever give Jay the W after how he sounded on the radio, because he didn't even sound like he believed he'd won.

I have no idea why Jay let the song get to him that bad. It was a terrible move to go on the radio like that. I'm sure Nas was :whoo: about some of the shyt Jay was saying, but he went on the radio and :heh: at it. Like it was a joke to him. Jay went on the radio in shambles. I've never heard him sound like that before that, or since then.

Fred.

nas changed't dat,..nikka, fa real!


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Nah Ether was some of the worst writing ever

Like atleast Jay had proper structure in his verse towards Nas

Nas' shyt was all over the fckin place

Its simple...Ether is loved because Nas was the underdog period

And the only reason Nas is even relevant to this day is because Jay is still relevant

Nas' career hangs on the coattails of Jay

these 90's babies find out that Nas was the closest to ending Jay(who continues to portray himself as the succesor and top guy in hip hop) and then they flock to him and impute some image that is the foil of Jay's image to Nas and they fall in love with this image.

Fact and point...without Jay Nas is nothing

:mjpls: :jawalrus:
I'm starting to think are actually a parody of a Jigga warrior. You can't possibly be serious with this shyt
 

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90% of that shyt was opinions...

The Serchlite line was a straight up lie. Actually, being fair I don't know if it was an intentional lie or if Jay was misinformed. MC Serch and Nas actually fell out over the masters/pubs to "Illmatic", because Nas wouldn't sign them over to Serchlite Publishing.

Fred.
 
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