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So now your essentially stating he should only say things that you feel are valid and not what he as an individual should speak on.

Social Fascism is not what's hot.
Thats not what im saying. The original argument was whether or not his statements made him a c00n, not whether I thought he should say it or not. Keep up :youngsabo:
 

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No one's heard him apologize for anything and that's why people come at him. Even if he did he still looks like a sucka for it





You do realize Nas was talking about them Bamboozled at the role they played and actual sambos? Black Thought even said on the Combat Jack show the same thing

Given Nas, K-Dot and Lupe are brothers who doing constructive stuff I would say it is. And yes been contributing for the majority of the 20 years, not just 6 months. I've never seen Nas defend multiple white people for racist shyt, that's quite a straw man argument you've built. I've seen him jokingly say he'll smack people for Gwyenth and in the same video talk about the consequence of people liberally using that word. People who dont like Nas anyway just took it and ran with it.




You mean like when pac was in jail with a full head of hair saying he heard the negativity and thought about the night of the shooting and was over it and was looking to come out and do poetry concentrate on screen writing and focus on positive hip hop, only for Suge to bail him out and he started riding on people when he had that battery in the back, I feel ya :mjpls:




I mean if it takes uplifting black people financially for them to get over the fact all he said was "we need to start protecting our own and love one another" I guess :pachaha: but who knew that was bullshyt :pachaha:

I get it,rappers you like can do no wrong you said it yourself:sas1:...Seems like you got plenty of reasons why other rappers is wrong and are suckas but cant admit to these 3 when they do:mjlol:...And Eminem,Gweneth and now Iggy is trifecta for Nas:sas2:..And if you think Suge gassed Pac to diss the east coast that mean you think he changed his mind,much like Nas did about how poisonous Hennesy was,we can do this all day:sas2:

Whats your angle here,to say they are all frauds:ohhh:...your angle seems to be "Bu bu but if Nas is a fraud so is Pac and heres why"....okay so you admit you like dudes you think are frauds since you like Pac as much as the next man....I however disagree and don't think Pac is a fraud,but i think these other 3 nikkas are:mjlol:?Now do you want to be to continue to look like a hypocrite or admit they all frauds to you:sas1:?
 

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Thats not what im saying. The original argument was whether or not his statements made him a c00n, not whether I thought he should say it or not. Keep up :youngsabo:

I don't need to lambast people (to an extent) who have a view on things I disagree with. And yes, that's the argument you are in fact trying to make. You stated that him even mentioning the looting, as in he shouldn't haven't brought it up, makes him a "c00n". He has every right to bring up the looting or not. He felt that the looting was detrimental to the overall cause of the Ferguson situation, so he spoke on it. Would you rather him bite his tongue for you?
 

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I don't need to lambast people (to an extent) who have a view on things I disagree with. And yes, that's the argument you are in fact trying to make. You stated that him even mentioning the looting, as in he shouldn't haven't brought it up, makes him a "c00n". He has every right to bring up the looting or not. He felt that the looting was detrimental to the overall cause of the Ferguson situation, so he spoke on it. Would you rather him bite his tongue for you?
Indeed you are correct. He can say what he wants, but he has still earned the "Koondrick" moniker quite easily by just that one statement alone. To add on top of that, he failed bring up the reasons we supposedly do not "respect ourselves", and is saying the shyt to a white audience no less. Screams of tap dancing. If you disagree, to one his own...
 

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Indeed you are correct. He can say what he wants, but he has still earned the "Koondrick" moniker quite easily by just that one statement alone. To add on top of that, he failed bring up the reasons we supposedly do not "respect ourselves", and is saying the shyt to a white audience no less. Screams of tap dancing. If you disagree, to one his own...

So you're essentially stating you need a rapper to tell you how to be a better black person.

Sums up most of the people who throw the c00n label around so liberally, needing entertainers to spoon feed your the courage and gumption to make moves in the community. Hilariously sad.
 

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So you're essentially stating you need a rapper to tell you how to be a better black person.

Sums up most of the people who throw the c00n label around so liberally, needing entertainers to spoon feed your the courage and gumption to make moves in the community. Hilariously sad.
No, that is not "essentially" what I said...
To become a fan of an artist because of his content and have said rapper fail to push the narrative you've heard them eloquently speak on is always a let down. To me, a person of his status promoting the conscious black cause through his is not a rallying point, but it is nice to have and to listen to. Honestly, with this, I don't think I will get the same effect when listening to his music...
 

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I get it,rappers you like can do no wrong you said it yourself:sas1:...Seems like you got plenty of reasons why other rappers is wrong and are suckas but cant admit to these 3 when they do:mjlol:...And Eminem,Gweneth and now Iggy is trifecta for Nas:sas2:..And if you think Suge gassed Pac to diss the east coast that mean you think he changed his mind,much like Nas did about how poisonous Hennesy was,we can do this all day:sas2:

I dont see Nas defending Iggy at all, I didnt know saying "I met her, she seemed cool but if she wanna make it she better step up and be real":blessed:
and he said Em was his CaC on some backhand shyt

When did Nas dennounce Henny? :dwillhuh: Oh you mean that famous line where said "Its funny how these black killer companies is making money off us, fast food, soda skull n bone and crosses" He's taking about McDonald's breh :mjlol: and when they had those rapping commercials in like 99. You gotta listen better baby.:lolbron: Hennessyyyyy is what we drink with our enemieeeeeeeeeees






Whats your angle here,to say they are all frauds:ohhh:...your angle seems to be "Bu bu but if Nas is a fraud so is Pac and heres why"....okay so you admit you like dudes you think are frauds since you like Pac as much as the next man....I however disagree and don't think Pac is a fraud,but i think these other 3 nikkas are:mjlol:?Now do you want to be to continue to look like a hypocrite or admit they all frauds to you:sas1:?


I dont have an angle at all breh,:manny: you must assume I do but I'm just pointing out the rappers you're questioning are doing stuff you praise other rappers (hence why I brought up the line from Only God could Judge Me Now in relation to Kendrick comments)

So because of that, I feel like you're not even sure who's the one being the hypocrite between the two of us :mjlol::pachaha:
 

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I don't need to lambast people (to an extent) who have a view on things I disagree with. And yes, that's the argument you are in fact trying to make. You stated that him even mentioning the looting, as in he shouldn't haven't brought it up, makes him a "c00n". He has every right to bring up the looting or not. He felt that the looting was detrimental to the overall cause of the Ferguson situation, so he spoke on it. Would you rather him bite his tongue for you?

Nah why would a black man bring up looting with aaaalll the protesting that happened without looting:patrice:? He can say what he wants like Charles Barkley can,but for a black man to allow himself to be used by a white platform to defend they great white hope,and on top of that to talk about rioting and not getting killed by cops starts from within:mjlol:? If yall don't think that's a joke and disappointing I don't know what to tell you:manny:....we might be going overboard and overly outraged in the moment,but this thecoli we get passionate:myman:...Kendrick can consider this thread and the backlash as one of those moments where he gets a good


He need to be called out before he go too far to the point of no return:mjpls:...but nah yall keep defending him "Bu bu but he lyrical NotSoft:why:"...how the fukk a nikka from LA gon downplay the impact of rioting can play on systematic change specifically when it comes to police brutality anyway:laff:?


"After the riots subsided, there were significant consequences in the Los Angeles Police Department: an increase in minority officers, analysis of excessive force, resignation of the police chief, loss of support for the Mayor of Los Angeles, and analysis of the general political and economic atmosphere that contributed to the riots"

So tell me is he ignorant to the LA riots,and shyt it his own backyard while trying to kick knowledge? Or is he purposely downplaying the impact rioting can have cause it sound good to white folks he was appealing to in that interview:mjpls:..?
 

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I dont see Nas defending Iggy at all, I didnt know saying "I met her, she seemed cool but if she wanna make it she better step up and be real":blessed:
and he said Em was his CaC on some backhand shyt

When did Nas dennounce Henny? :dwillhuh: Oh you mean that famous line where said "Its funny how these black killer companies is making money off us, fast food, soda skull n bone and crosses" He's taking about McDonald's breh :mjlol: and when they had those rapping commercials in like 99. You gotta listen better baby.:lolbron: Hennessyyyyy is what we drink with our enemieeeeeeeeeees









I dont have an angle at all breh,:manny: you must assume I do but I'm just pointing out the rappers you're questioning are doing stuff you praise other rappers (hence why I brought up the line from Only God could Judge Me Now in relation to Kendrick comments)

So because of that, I feel like you're not even sure who's the one being the hypocrite between the two of us :mjlol::pachaha:
i think nas said he would never take money to sell alcohol when i think it was budweiser offered some sort of sponsorship deal
 

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i think nas said he would never take money to sell alcohol when i think it was budweiser offered some sort of sponsorship deal

It was the Coors Light offer and he said he wasnt interested in doing it and simply said "no beer commercials for Nas" to the camera

Put it this way, years later Coor Light got Ice Cube to do those commercials and I'm sure you've seen them. Compare those with the Henny spots on TV he does and there's no way Nas would have even fit in those comedy ads. So whether it was of principal reasons or because he knew he would look corny in the commercials or whatever they had pitched him didnt work or whether he thought the product was bad, he just didnt do it.

Because that came out during a time when he dropped Stillmatic and poison was on it, people assumed he was against the product. Even though on the song he actually talks about how fast food companies was making money off us (in reference to those McDonald's ads that used to air on the Source Sound Lab)

Dude has never actually said he had a problem with a liquor company, I think people just ran with it at the time because it sounded like he did
 

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just because he's saying this, doesn't mean he supports her. That's what some of yall need to understand. He probably means, let her live because in the long run, good music and lyrics will always prevail. Shorty isn't even gold yet and her album dropped this past summer. She's just a single rapper and the better rappers have sold more. Nicki has already sold more than this chick and her shyt dropped 2 weeks ago. JCole has sold almost 700,000 in less than a month. Kendrick is coming out. Iggy winning a grammy isn't changing what matters.

Besides, his cousin is dating Iggy, it would look bad if he dissed her.

Right, AND like what another poster said... the more she gets targeted, the more she can play victim and up her image. And it works every time. Remember, there are PR Teams for entertainers for a reason. She's a blonde white woman that people find attractive. You don't think when Azealia started throwing Twitter Hands at Iggy, they weren't doing the Birdman hand-rub? :usure:These people are smart, they know that people will cape for Iggy. So they'll spin it as Angry Black Woman vs. Innocent White Girl. We've seen this play out multiple times, we know how this ends. Hip Hop doesn't want her. And we're well within our right not to. But White America will gladly take her, buy her albums and give her all the accolades. She just won best Rap Act at the People's Choice Awards a week ago apparently. What does that tell you? These fools do not give a fukk about whether or not Hip Hop want her. They see white money and be like "Greener pastures are beyond the hill. :yeshrug:" We weren't the ones who got her those radio plays of Fancy, her team hit up Clear Channel and dropped the bread to make that happen. She won't disappear because every week there's something about her, whether it's positive or negative.


Now, I'm not caping for Iggy. Far from it. I don't fukk with her music AT ALL. But best believe, the powers that be were looking to pull this shyt for a long time now. Remember how everyone was hyping up Kreayshawn? She was everywhere on MTV, only to sell maybe 1300 copies of her album while she was signed to Columbia. It wasn't working. So they gave up.... Until Macklemore came on the scene and made noise. And when they saw Iggy? Everyone in the room was like :smugfavre: cause they KNEW that this time, they had it right. And they were right. So this was bound to happen eventually.
 

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I dont see Nas defending Iggy at all, I didnt know saying "I met her, she seemed cool but if she wanna make it she better step up and be real":blessed:
and he said Em was his CaC on some backhand shyt

When did Nas dennounce Henny? :dwillhuh: Oh you mean that famous line where said "Its funny how these black killer companies is making money off us, fast food, soda skull n bone and crosses" He's taking about McDonald's breh :mjlol: and when they had those rapping commercials in like 99. You gotta listen better baby.:lolbron: Hennessyyyyy is what we drink with our enemieeeeeeeeeees









I dont have an angle at all breh,:manny: you must assume I do but I'm just pointing out the rappers you're questioning are doing stuff you praise other rappers (hence why I brought up the line from Only God could Judge Me Now in relation to Kendrick comments)

So because of that, I feel like you're not even sure who's the one being the hypocrite between the two of us :mjlol::pachaha:

No im talking about this 6:30 mark


"No beer commercials for Nas EVER:childplease:"

Probaly wasn't even nobody on the phone though,just giving his fanbase who thinks hes righteous and can do no wrong something else to eat up:mjlol:...but I guess Coors aint beer is your next argument:troll:,how do you take that outta context,how did we misunderstand him and "run with it"...and he defended Eminem in xxl in a non joking manor

"Nas was also quick to defend Eminem, "It’s [the Source vendetta] really stupid. He’s a great artist. He’s educating us, telling us we have to communicate with each other. And we are learning about his life through his rhymes. It’s a shame. But I’ve been through a lot of bullshyt, and Eminem will have to go through it too."
He also had a comment regarding 50 Cent as well, saying, "Right now I’m feeling 50 Cent, because it’s that raw, street feel."-Nas

But Nas can do no wrong,you see what I mean when I talk about historyand how it plays a part in how people look at what you say in the present:mjpls:...And no im not a hypocrite,I defended TI early on for defending her,but he unfortunately has crossed over and committed a c00n act at this point cuz he goin too hard...you have pointed out numerous silly reasons why other rappers might be c00ns and frauds,such as TI for saying illegal Mexicans should have to go back and defending his artist,to the roots being hypocrites and working with Jayz:heh:...ive pointed out when Jay dissed Belafonte it was a disgrace.

Ive called out my favorites on they misteps,you just failed to convince me with your weak Pac reaches....im not a hypocrite you just didn't convince me this time,you on the other hand have called out other rappers for more petty reasons than what you will condemn those who you are defending:sas1:...and refuse to acknowledge it
 
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