You say you want facts, but then keep posting your opinions. Its your opinion that greatness is measured by record sales. Its your opinion that "nobody cares" if youre not in the mainstream. It's your opinion that Jay has "kept it hip hop". Its your opinion that I have to factor his business moves into how I rank his music. Its your opinion that he connected rap and art (and didnt just use art as a new medium to brag about his wealth). Its your opinion that Jay is a 5%er because he dropped a handful of related lines on MCHG. So it seems to me like you are the one confusing your own opinion for facts, and in turn making your opinion undebatable. But literally every "fact" you put up is an opinion that is easy to debate/pick apart.
Like I said before, there is no KONY. Jay is the richest, most popular, highest selling artist who came up from NY, but he doesnt rep NY, outside of Barclays stadium, Williamsburg and the Columbia + NYU campuses. He's not at all involved in NY hip hop culture, he doesn't battle, he is not acting as a leader here, he has no ground level presence in the NY hip hop scene. nikkas from the hood cant see a Jay-Z concert, its too expensive. Hes not dropping mixtapes or really doing ANYTHING for the people/hip hop community that doesn't involve turning a profit. From the business side, I respect that. He's a hustler. But that shyt is not hip hop.
What King chills with his peasants? again..nikka. go to webster. look up the definition. Dudes want Hov to be everything to them. Truely the God MC. Want him to wipe ya ass for you while selling out stadiums. Wants a dude worth millions chillin on Sedgwick and cedar slinging rocks. You nikkas are too much. But alright..for the points you made and your personal attacks to me...leeeets go.
1. To say that sales are relevant isn't my opinion. if you read what I said..it's an unfortunate truth. If sales didn't matter...MJ isn't the king of Pop. The Beatles aint shyt. I could go on and on. There is no mystery why those who are considered the greatest sell millions of records. That's a fact. If you disagree go jump off a bridge nikka ..never talk about music again.
2. To be outside of the mainstream for whatever reason...mean's that most of the population don't know who you are. Meaning that most people don't care about you because they don't know who you are. Fact.
3. I never said YOU have to consider his business moves in relation to his music. You stated that Jay Z was mainstream. I agreed. But It's a fact that he has stayed Relevant since he debuted. His business moves have helped him stretch his relevancy over a 10+ year period. That's again a Fact. Through endorsements, Shoes, Using stadiums and sports teams etc. FACT.
4. It's not my Opinion that he used art as a medium to sell his album. It's a fact. He had a special on HBO about his 6 Hr exhibit at Pace Gallery. I didn't fabricate that...there's proof that he did this of his own volition. And I said that he's continued something that many artist have forgotten and don't bother with. Acknowledging the art community. There was a time when hip hop, punk and other music genre's were in their infancy and were directly connected with art. especially in NYC. Yet again. A Fact. Not my opinion.
5. I did not say that Jay Z was a 5%. I said he wore the chain and was representing the nation of gods and earths. Not once stated he was a member. And I said that some question the validity of it. And I will include myself. But the FACTS are...that he used the chain and the lines in his album. We all knows this to be true. So don't twist my words. A FACT again.
Reading comprehension brehs....learn it.
Don't let your emotions get the best of you my friend. And when you quote someones post you should actually read it.
As far as the rest of it. Your wish list for Hov I'll call it....I think it's amusing. I'd like to see every artist battle and go from hood to hood handing out bread and free jordans and shyt in my case a Tax Free IRA. But that's not reality. So keep wishing. Those things aren't done by Royalty in any era in any country.
So ..who's next? ..And can someone state a competent argument without getting butt hurt and taking shots at me for calling them out on their insecurities and biased opinions. Prove that K Dot is the King if you feel that way nikkas. I made my argument for Hov.
