Kenya trying to take Somalia's territorial waters

[emoney]

lmao I've never seen so much hostility towards an African people/cutlure from supposed Africans

Dudes like @emoney talmbout "your people are starving to death because they're goat herders and have an inferior culture" st0rmfr0nt talking points

other dudes have devolved into "zulu's can beat you guys up 1 on 1"

you guys come across as scorned bytches. not 1 of the Somalis in this thread stooped to the pathetic level of the other nikkas in this thread... especially that kenyan dude

Your misquoting me to misrepresent my points.

Let me recap and reiterate what I said in a prior post

1. Somalis were/are goat herders

2. Somalis converted to Islam en mass willingly (according to one poster). When a people drop their culture for another culture is that not an indication that the adopted culture is superior to the abandoned one?

Lastly

3. Somalia is known for famines and starvation.

 

[emoney]

Yep. Via trade. Dumb comment by the way. How are you enjoying the white man's customs my brother?

How is it a dumb question?

You embraced a foreign religion/culture willingly....So Somalis recognized that the culture they had was inferior. You might not like the way I said but it rings true.

Nope. Somalia is not that different from Kenya. There is desert like terrain in the north but the south is luscious breh. I don't see what your comment has to do with Somalis expanding all over. West and South.

I never mentioned Kenya.

And no, the famines come from the instability and political chaos. Somalia can feed itself many times over.

I disagree.

South Sudan is on the brink of a famine and they're as fertile as it gets.

It's the instability dummy.

SS has a similar terrain to Somalia

again, I disagree

 

[Broke Wave]

Your misquoting me to misrepresent my points.

Let me recap and reiterate what I said in a prior post

1. Somalis were/are goat herders

2. Somalis converted to Islam en mass willingly (according to one poster). When a people drop their culture for another culture is that not an indication that the adopted culture is superior to the abandoned one?

Lastly

3. Somalia is known for famines and starvation.

Somalia has had the same culture for thousands of years. They traded one religion, an aspect of culture, for another. Even if your characterization was the case, there is no scale of superiority of cultures. That is a very Eurocentric and outdated way of looking at things.

Somalia is as "known for famines and starvation" as the rest of Africa is known for AIDS... it's another gross mischaracterization.

 

[Trajan]

How is it a dumb question?

You embraced a foreign religion/culture willingly....So Somalis recognized that the culture they had was inferior. You might not like the way I said but it rings true.

It's a dumb comment because it applies to virtually to all countries in the world. And yes, Islam > paganism

I never mentioned Kenya.

I mentioned it because according to you Somalia is just a desert. Well how come you don't consider Kenya a desert country? South Africa?

I disagree.

Why do you disagree? Explain the causes of the famine please. Let's see how much you know about Somalia.

SS has a similar terrain to Somalia

again, I disagree

Not really. South Sudan is a lot more fertile. It's one of the greenest places in Africa. It's potentially the bread basket of Africa.

 

[emoney]

Somalia has had the same culture for thousands of years. They traded one religion, an aspect of culture, for another. Even if your characterization was the case, there is no scale of superiority of cultures. That is a very Eurocentric and outdated way of looking at things.

So they through their original culture in the bushes to pick up a foreign one

How is this characterization wrong?

Just admit Somalis traded up and I'll leave you alone.

 

[Poitier]

Islam > paganism

Nope.

 

[emoney]

It's a dumb comment because it applies to virtually to all countries in the world. And yes, Islam > paganism




I mentioned it because according to you Somalia is just a desert. Well how come you don't consider Kenya a desert country? South Africa?




Why do you disagree? Explain the causes of the famine please. Let's see how much you know about Somalia.



Not really. South Sudan is a lot more fertile. It's one of the greenest places in Africa. It's potentially the bread basket of Africa.

How does it apply to all countries of the world?

The thread is about Somalia

I don't really care enough to explain the causes of the various famines that Somalia has gone through

I'ma have to fact check on South Sudan being one of the greenest places in Africa and the "bread basket of Africa"..I highly doubt it.

 

[Trajan]

How does it apply to all countries of the world?

The thread is about Somalia

Because adopting ideas/beliefs is not unique to Somalia. Ideas and knowledge travel.

I don't really care enough to explain the causes of the various famines that Somalia has gone through

Give me bullet points. Actually scratch that, you already attributed it to the ''desert terrain''. Which shows your lack of knowledge in this case. The non-fertile parts of Somalia are in the north and not single famine happened there. The famine took place in the South-West of the country, ironically the most fertile region lol. It wasn't even the whole country.

I'ma have to fact check on South Sudan being one of the greenest places in Africa and the "bread basket of Africa"..I highly doubt it.

Investment in South Sudan’s agriculture sector is particularly important. According to the World Food Programme (WFP), about 90 percent of the population continues to live in rural areas and is dependent on agriculture.

More than 90 percent of South Sudan's land is arable, with the potential to become the breadbasket of Africa and the Middle East. But only four percent of the land is cultivated today, and South Sudan continues to rely on agricultural imports from Uganda and Kenya.


http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/2013/07/201378112546228461.html


Again, it's the instability and chaos which makes all the difference.

 

[Broke Wave]

So they through their original culture in the bushes to pick up a foreign one

How is this characterization wrong?

Just admit Somalis traded up and I'll leave you alone.

Somali's still speak their ancient language, how many African peoples can still say that? Somali's have their own unique culture that is very different from Arab culture. Islamic culture is one aspect of Somali culture. I suppose every peoples who adopted Islam, from the Afghans to the Indonesians had a inferior culture and traded up? That's nonsense. Nobody would accuse Malaysians of trading their original culture for Islam. That's a false dichotomy.

 

[Robbie3000]

Goddamn this shyt still going on? Y'all nikkas out here country tripping for real

 

[Trajan]

Somali's still speak their ancient language, how many African peoples can still say that?

Great point.

I noticed that recently.


We aint having debates on whether to be Anglophone or Francophone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_official_languages_by_state

 

[Poitier]

Somali's still speak their ancient language

How is this a good thing in a globalized world?

 

[Broke Wave]

How is this a good thing in a globalized world?

I didn't make nor will I make a qualitative assessment on whether speaking your native tongue is conducive to economic growth. I'm simply responding to the baseless claims that Somali's supplanted their original culture for Islamic culture when it simply is not the case. Somali culture is one of the most unique in the world; a stark contrast between it's neighbors and the Arab world across the Red Sea

 

[emoney]

the kenyan tears in here are glorious

How?

The thread was created by a Somali who made the claim that Kenya is trying to steal Somalia's territorial waters.

 

[MVike28]

How?

The thread was created by a Somali who made the claim that Kenya is trying to steal Somalia's territorial waters.

The furious response makes me

Clearly it hit a nerve.