Kenyon Martin takes Draymond to the glue factory and list 50 PFs better than him all time.

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This just isn’t true :manny:

We’ve seen Draymond put out historic Defensive performances. You’re giving Klay/Steph credit for that?

We’ve seen him pre backpack put up damn near a triple double in the finals. Game 7 at that. Kenyon never ever didn’t anything close
When curry n Klay was hurt Warriors literally were a lottery team …
 

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Kenyon is bugging. Gotta tear Draymond down to make himself look good. Kenyon you're wrong on this one. You talk about defensive awards being biased. Yet Cliff Robinson and PJ Brown made all NBA defensive teams over you. You talk about Draymond record without Steph Curry, yet before Jason Kidd came the Nets were losers. You had Marbury and missed the playoffs. Then you got traded to Denver where you continue to lose in the first round. Now you're supposed to be this all time great defender. And you got the DPOY in Marcus Camby next to you. But you're still losing in the first round every year.
 

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:mjlol:You sound goofy as fukk. Rodman was considered a HOF before he joined the Bulls. Spurs Rodman was a star INDIVIDUALLY, not because of another player. The year where both Klay and Curry were out for the season due to injury, what did Dray do during that time? Nothing.

:russ:Real HOF players are a factor in their own right, not off the back of another player. Put Draymond on another as the first or even second option and they are drafting top 5 every year. Rodman has a ring on 3 DIFFERENT TEAMS, AND HE HAS MORE RINGS THAN DRAYMOND.

:mjlol:Sounds like you're the one hyper focused on off-the-court antics. I'm speaking pure basketball, homie. In no world is Draymond better.
Other than rebounding there isn’t a single skill set Rodman did better. You’re mentioning 1st/2nd option as if Rodman was doing that . What teams did he lead to titles as a 1st-3rd option? Lol

Fact show that Draymond has led teams to the finals as a top 3 important/impactful player.
 

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Kenyon is bugging. Gotta tear Draymond down to make himself look good. Kenyon you're wrong on this one. You talk about defensive awards being biased. Yet Cliff Robinson and PJ Brown made all NBA defensive teams over you. You talk about Draymond record without Steph Curry, yet before Jason Kidd came the Nets were losers. You had Marbury and missed the playoffs. Then you got traded to Denver where you continue to lose in the first round. Now you're supposed to be this all time great defender. And you got the DPOY in Marcus Camby next to you. But you're still losing in the first round every year.
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I usually shyt on Draymond but 9x defensive team, 2x all-nba, 4x all-star excluding his team's (both gsw and team usa) achievements that sounds like an HoF type player.

HOF is supposed to be for players who were the best of the best. Dray has never been a top 10 player in any season. I'm not even sure I can say he's ever been a top 15 player in any season.
 

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I usually shyt on Draymond but 9x defensive team, 2x all-nba, 4x all-star excluding his team's (both gsw and team usa) achievements that sounds like an HoF type player.

HE DOESNT GET ANY
OF THOSE ACCOLADES
PLAYING IN DETROIT.

EVERYTHING HES EVER
GOTTEN WAS DUE TO THE WARRIORS
TEAM SUCCESS
:devil:
:evil:
 

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HOF is supposed to be for players who were the best of the best. Dray has never been a top 10 player in any season. I'm not even sure I can say he's ever been a top 15 player in any season.
Since he’s a two time all-nba, he’s been top 10 and 15 according to certain people that matter. given that they are now position less.

The HoF is supposed to be what it is and it includes women and people that had more success in Europe and fiba games. It doesn’t consider one parameter, it considers a range. Like if you just had a few goated seasons, if you had longevity, if you were a great defender, great in the Olympics or whatever.

Hof according to you might be something else though.
 
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Since he’s a two time all-nba, he’s been top 10 and 15 according to certain people that matter. given that they are now position less.

1 2nd team and 1 3rd team and it was mostly because the team was so good. Someone like Amar'e Stoudemire was 5x all-NBA. Made the 1st team once and the 2nd team 4 times. That's someone who was a dominant player.
 

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1 2nd team and 1 3rd team and it was mostly because the team was so good. Someone like Amar'e Stoudemire was 5x all-NBA. Made the 1st team once and the 2nd team 4 times. That's someone who was a dominant player.
I don’t know what you are saying, but that’s great for Stoudmide I guess.
 

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This stuttering dopehead should never be compared. What are we doing? I get people move like broads In they feelings but come on lol

Yea, what ARE we doing. Only new age fans and casuals don’t understand that you cant compare someone with Alpha expectations vs someone who’s a support piece. It’s like Horace Grant thinking he’s better than Charles Barkley. I HATE when people do this. Modern ring culture has taken it to the moon. With Draymond being the face of it

Sadly Draymond is gonna ride into the HOF based on circumstance (Steph), but he’s never been a better player than Kenyon Martin, who underachieved but he was tasked with doing far more. Only hoopers understand
 

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Draymond is not the GOAT PF but there are not 50 of them better than him.
There are at minimum for 50 power forwards better than him. His numbers both with and without Steph are paltry at best.

He does nothing great on the court aside from help side defense and flagrant fouls. Not a good one on one defender, can’t score worth a damn, can’t shoot worth a damn, and is an okay passer because he’s not asked to do anything else.
 
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