Kenyon Martin takes Draymond to the glue factory and list 50 PFs better than him all time.

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Sadly Draymond is gonna ride into the HOF based on circumstance (Steph), but he’s never been a better player than Kenyon Martin, who underachieved but he was tasked with doing far more. Only hoopers understand

He came back from 2 significant knee injuries that were career killers during his era.... He did not underachieve... matter of fact, his resilience is remarkable because he was still a quality player after those injuries
 

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The sad part is, everybody knows this and internet nerds still capes for him, under the guise that "you don't know basketball" if you reduce Draymond to what he actually is, which is a good role player..... Horace Grant>>>>>>>>Draymond
You dont know basketball if you dont think Dray is great player.

His value on defense is better than some great offensive players. And a pf shared if not was the main dude running the offense with arguably the best pg ever
 

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I have no idea what you're referring to or what type of point you're trying to make
You given rodman credit for playing with great teams

If Dray did the same you would make up a excuse
The warrios know Dray worth
Bye Klay
Bye Poole

9 all defensive
Dpoy
4x all star
All nba 2x

Would had a finals mvp if the greatest shooters didnt play like shyt
 

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1. Steph missed 12 playoff games between 2016 and 2019 and the Warriors went 9-3. There's nothing dishonest about that.

2. :dahell: they won in the first round against Harden and were up 2-1 against Dame and CJ before Steph returned. Steph only played in 3 out of 10 games in the first two rounds of the playoffs. Most teams are not winning two consecutive playoff series with their best player missing that many games. Draymond averaged 22/11/7 and Klay averaged 31 PPG against the Blazers.. So yes, Draymond and Klay willed the team to victory.

3. The Warriors went up 2-0 without Steph. They dropped one road game before he returned but it's not like they were down in the series.
nikka u talking about the warriors playing the 8 seed spurs in 2018 with a healthy Klay and Kevin Durant?! :what:


Again, you’re being dishonest as fukk :coffee:


EDIT: 7 seed
 
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You given rodman credit for playing with great teams

If Dray did the same you would make up a excuse

9 all defensive
Dpoy
4x all star
All nba 2x

Would had a finals mvp if the greatest shooters didnt play like shyt

You missed the point but that is to be expected... You stated that if Rodman wasn't drafted by the Pistons then his career would have been short lived which is disingenuous... because 3 additional championship franchises paid for his services..... with one team winning 3 additional championships with him as a starter...... so no, he wouldn't be cross dressing in Europe... he literally cross dressed here in the states while playing 14 years in the NBA and netting 5 ships
 

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You missed the point but that is to be expected... You stated that if Rodman wasn't drafted by the Pistons then his career would have been short lived which is disingenuous... because 3 additional championship franchises paid for his services..... with one team winning 3 additional championships with him as a starter...... so no, he wouldn't be cross dressing in Europe... he literally cross dressed here in the states while playing 14 years in the NBA and netting 5 ships
So draymond get dinged because his team dont want him to go?

I watched Steph score 0 points in the first half of a playoff game. Draymond carried them that half.
 

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Yea, what ARE we doing. Only new age fans and casuals don’t understand that you cant compare someone with Alpha expectations vs someone who’s a support piece. It’s like Horace Grant thinking he’s better than Charles Barkley. I HATE when people do this. Modern ring culture has taken it to the moon. With Draymond being the face of it

Sadly Draymond is gonna ride into the HOF based on circumstance (Steph), but he’s never been a better player than Kenyon Martin, who underachieved but he was tasked with doing far more. Only hoopers understand
Did you just compare Kenyon fukking Martin to Charles Barkley?!!! :what: :what:
 
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