Kenyon Martin takes Draymond to the glue factory and list 50 PFs better than him all time.

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SchoolboyC said:
Not gonna say he would’ve been out of the league bc I think that’s a huge stretch but I can’t confidently say Draymond would’ve had a HOF career if he gets drafted by Orlando or Washington

He’s a great player that’s also benefitted from almost perfect circumstances, which is why he simultaneously gets overrated and underrated by two different crowds
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Draymond would have found his way to a contending team. That’s what always happens. Coaches and front office people know more about the sport than we do.

There is a thread about Garrett Temple still being in the league after 16 season. He played on some horrendous Wizards teams for five years And was in and out the league before that.
 
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The difference being Carmelo had a role and he did it well. Did he win a title, no, but you can’t say he didn’t go out there and do his job.

Did Kenyon Martin perform well in his role? No he didn’t. So his role fell down to get easy buckets from Jason Kidd. That’s all he was good for. And doing that shyt ain’t gonna lead to a title. He just became a name. If your role on a team is to get easy baskets due to someone else then shut the fukk up. You ain’t qualified to speak on anyone.

Draymond role wasn’t to score. He was out there to defend, distribute, and antagonize. Can you win a title with that type of player as your main guy, no you can’t. But that type of guy can be pivotal to you winning a title if he is with the right stars.

I can’t say KMart could do anything that contributes to a title that others couldn’t. I can say that about Draymond.
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Naaah we not doin that. Kenyon was the 2nd leading scorer on a back to back finals squad. We not gon diminish that to just some bum catching lobs from Jason Kidd.

2nd j Kidd and richard Jefferson is not Steph and klay. If you put Kenyon on those GS teams, nothing changes historically warriors win it all over again. If you put Draymond on those nets team have a huge hole scoring and don’t make the finals.

Which leads me to the heart of this discussion that I don’t think y’all realize: ANY player is qualified to be a role player. It’s a matter of accepting that and sometimes it doesn’t make sense to accept that. Look at James harden. It didn’t make sense to accept role player. But if you’re Draymond green? Sure! Of course he’s a perfect role player. The ngga had no choice! Even all-time level role players had to get theirs in their prime before they accepted a role: Shawn Marion, Ron Harper, Mark Aguirre, Iguodala, etc

Long story short: stop talking like Draymond being a role player was some crazy skill. It wasn’t. He had no choice
 
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Braman said:
Naaah we not doin that. Kenyon was the 2nd leading scorer on a back to back finals squad. We not gon diminish that to just some bum catching lobs from Jason Kidd.

2nd j Kidd and richard Jefferson is not Steph and klay. If you put Kenyon on those GS teams, nothing changes historically warriors win it all over again. If you put Draymond on those nets team they have no reliable scorer and they dont even make the finals.

Which leads me to the heart of this discussion that I don’t think y’all realize: ANY player is qualified to be a role player. It’s a matter of accepting that and sometimes it doesn’t make sense to accept that. Look at James harden. It didn’t make sense to accept role player. But if you’re Draymond green? Sure! Of course he’s a perfect role player. The ngga had no choice! Dudes say it like he sacrificed a 20 10 career. Even all-time level tile players had to get theirs in their prime before they acdoeted role player: Shawn Marion, Ron Harper, Iguodala, etc

Long story short: stop talking like Draymond being a role player was some crazy skill. It wasn’t. He had no choice
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Lol they aint winning shyt if Kmart play the exact minutes as Dray. Kmart not creating shyt for Curry. All he would do is clog up space. And at that particular point in Curry career is his playmaking was just slightly about avg. the warriors had no floor general at all without Dray.

Steph would be ringless
 
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Lol they aint winning shyt if Kmart play the exact minutes as Dray. Kmart not creating shyt for Curry. All he would do is clog up space. And at that particular point in Curry career is his playmaking was just slightly about avg. the warriors had no floor general at all without Dray.

Steph would be ringless
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Nasty, nasty takes. Now you disrespecting Steph curry to prop up Draymond green

They played a certain way bc Draymond was there, with a unique skillset. That is not the same as they HAD to play like that.

Iggy would have been point forward. It’d look different, but they woulda got to it either way. It’d be like saying Kobe and Shaq never would have worked without the triangle. It wasn’t the triangle my boy.
 
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FukkaPaidEmail said:
If Rodman wasnt drafted to Detroit with the structure Chick Daly and the ownership has Rodman probably never becomes what he did .

if Draymond wasnt drafted to GSW with Steph,Klay and rhe foundation they laid he probably never becomes what he did


If Sheed was drafted to a stable environment maybe he does become
more than what he was


circumstances matter for a lot of players
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WEVE SEEN RODMAN
BE RODMAN ON MULTIPLE TEAMS...

IF "PRIME" DRAY LEFT GS
AND WENT TO ANOTHER TEAM
HE WOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT
AS THE ROLE PLAYER HE IS

DUDE LITERALLY AVERAGES
9PTS AND 7 RBS ON 45%FG FOR HIS CAREER.

ALL OF HIS ASSISTS ARE
A PRODUCT OF STEPH/KLAY/KD
AND THE GS SYSTEM
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Braman said:
Nasty, nasty takes. Now you disrespecting Steph curry to prop up Draymond green

They played a certain way bc Draymond was there, with a unique skillset. That is not the same as they HAD to play like that.

Iggy would have been point forward. It’d look different, but they woulda got to it either way. It’d be like saying Kobe and Shaq never would have worked without the triangle. It wasn’t the triangle my boy.
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Dude u said nothing changes if Kmart was in place of Draymond lol

The warriors would never went to the finals ever. Steph would have no mvps or nothing

Instead of warriors vs cavs

It would been OKC vs Cavs for 4 years straight lol
 
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Cladyclad said:
So he wouldn’t been able to play the same if he went to play with

The blazers with CJ and Dame?

Or

Played with Bron and AD
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:gucci:HELL NO
YOU CLEARLY DONT KNOW BASKETBALL

YOU JUST LISTED A BUNCH
OF ISOLATION PLAYERS
OPPOSED TO GS SYSTEM
OF SCREENS AND OFF BALL SHOOTERS.

DRAY WOULD BE STANDING IN
THE CORNER OR fukkING UP
SPACING WITH THOSE GUYS
WHEREAS HE GETS TO STAND
AT THE TOP OF THE KEY
AND MAKE SIMPLE PASSES
TO OPEN PLAYERS CURLING OFF SCREENS
OR CUTTING TO THE BASKET
IN GS.

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